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1 posted on 06/12/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Considering all the Chinese nationals working in our contract defense industries, Its really more like information sharing.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 1:27:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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So the traitor Snowden is planning to reveal the cyber secrets our nation uses to hack adversaries. And he’s still hiding out in Hong Kong, China. Are there still misguided people here who think he is some kind of hero? Good grief, it’s incredibly sad when supposed conservatives line up behind the hero’s of Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, etc. Just pathetic.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 1:27:58 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Alright guys, let’s hear what a hero he is. There is no gray area here, exposing secrets about our espionage involving other countries is TREASON.

This guy is acting based on ego and self-interest. He’ll tell every secret he knows in exchange for favors from the Chinese.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 1:28:08 PM PDT by TroutGuy
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If he’s going to provide sensitive info to an enemy foreign government, then he’s crossing the red line for me.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 1:28:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Nothing Snowden has said so far has led me to believe his intention is to reveal secrets damaging to legitimate National Security concerns. Everything he's said and done so far has been related to constitutionally questionable acts directed against Americans without reasonable cause.

However, I do expect the media will try to create another impression.

6 posted on 06/12/2013 1:30:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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Looking more like a ChiCom agent all the time.
8 posted on 06/12/2013 1:31:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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Thumb drive?

Sensitive government computers should lock up when an external drive is incerted into a USB port.

9 posted on 06/12/2013 1:31:27 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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Why threaten? Or is that just a headline?


10 posted on 06/12/2013 1:31:35 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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"He's already exposed part of it and I guess he's going to expose the rest of it."

[insert Anthony Weiner joke here]


11 posted on 06/12/2013 1:31:50 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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"We hack network backbones, like huge Internet routers...

Cisco makes most of the routers, so it makes sense that Obama was having meetings with Cisco from early on.


Guest list: Left, from President Obama, Apple chairman and CEO Steve Jobs, Westly group founder Steve Westly, host's wife Ann Doerr, Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Genentech chairman Art Levinson, Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers, venture capitalist John Doerr (host) Oracle CEO Larry Ellison, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, Stanford University president John Hennessy, Yahoo president Carol Bartz, Twitter CEO Dick Costolo, unknown, Facebook founder, president and CEO Mark Zuckerberg

They're all one big happy family.

13 posted on 06/12/2013 1:32:45 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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SURPRISE!!!!

This has the stench of team Obama all over it. Snowden starts out enlisting support of Americans against their government, then quickly goes into 'sabotage America's intelligence gathering capabilities against foreign countries' mode.

This is an Obama false flag, intended to undermine America's intelligence gathering capabilities. Let's tell the world what and how we spy on them, making us weaker.. Making what SHOULD be classified, UNCLASSIFIED.

Just another Obama bait and switch.. DUPING AMERICANS into supporting the disbandment of our ability to counter foreign threats.

SUCKERS!

21 posted on 06/12/2013 1:37:48 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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regardless of what I think of what the NSA is doing, in terms of them getting the meta data dump, maybe now we might see

a. why snowden went to Hong Kong

b. why the world meta-data dump should be searched to see if there is some big bank account somewhere with his name on it

why

China has been looking for a long time for something to take the world geopolitical heat off it as the world’s biggest cyber hacker.

I don’t know if, for pay, snowden became involved in that effort, but if correlation alone was proof (it is not) it could start to look that way.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 1:38:15 PM PDT by Wuli (as)
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From what I was reading, he was in contact with the Guardian before his last job.


33 posted on 06/12/2013 1:40:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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"We hack network backbones, like huge Internet routers, basically, that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one," he told the newspaper.

That's the key sentence.

That's why the targeted internet companies (Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc.) are denying they give the NSA unrestricted access. They don't need to.

That's also why arguments over data retention laws are a sideshow. There is no need for them and their huge cost and inefficiency if the NSA is simply vacuuming up the whole of the network traffic and saving it in Bluffdale.

42 posted on 06/12/2013 1:45:41 PM PDT by cynwoody
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Given the open nature of the Internet, if hackers with access to a relatively small amount of computing capacity can hack into most commercial and government sites, I'm sure the NSA with its MASSIVE supercomputing capacity could hack into almost anything. And I'm sure the Chinese--now that they have built up several supercomputing centers on Chinese soil--are doing the same thing to us, unfortunately!
50 posted on 06/12/2013 1:54:12 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Remember folks, this is

NEWSMAX

which imo hasn't been worth a bucket of cold goat phlegm since it folded its Forum.
52 posted on 06/12/2013 1:54:58 PM PDT by Roccus
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(from the article) “ Supporters of the former NSA subcontractor are lauding him as a whistleblower for divulging NSA monitoring of private users’ web traffic and phone records, in a worldwide trawl that the White House says was needed to keep Americans safe from terror.”

Why is it that we are now fearful of the growth and over-reach of our own government ?
UnConstitutional OVER-Reach ?
This program was alledgedly started to protect us from outsider / foreign terrorists.
The program was designed to protect U.S. citizens from foreign terror
However , the IRS /BATF/ OSHA/ EPA agencies are being used by our government to keep decension down , and repress opposition voices, and isolate political groups .
The terrorists are not all foreign ; we are seeing that the greater threat comes from our government encroaching on our CONSTITUTIONAL rights.
Terrorists need not necessarily involve the use of explosives .
Terrorism involves emotional turmoil , change in behavior, and change in thought (the proverbial ‘what ..if’ scenario).
With all this talk about “metadata” , I dont feel any safer ; I feel more at risk of reprisal for my thoughts and behavior from MY OWN GOVERNMENT !!
This is not what the program was supposed to accomplish !
.. and I should not have to feel this way !


55 posted on 06/12/2013 1:59:46 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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Is there video of Snowden changing his tune and threatening to commit treason now, or are we taking Obama/McCain’s word for that?


58 posted on 06/12/2013 2:02:29 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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Drum roll please. Gentlemen, start your engines. Let the Snowden transition from hero to goat begin.


59 posted on 06/12/2013 2:05:49 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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What I find especially instructive is the fact that Snowden claims that he can receive a fairer trial in China than he could in the US.

As to when China became the very apotheosis of fairness, I remain quite unclear...

65 posted on 06/12/2013 2:39:22 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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