Skip to comments.Domestic Violence Victim Fired From Teaching
Posted on 06/12/2013 1:39:34 PM PDT by South40
A local second grade teacher is out of a job, but not for anything she did in the classroom. Carie Charlesworth is a victim of domestic violence and her school district considers her a liability and too unsafe to have around. Charlesworth was fired by Holy Trinity School in January after an incident involving her ex-husband.
Theyve taken away my ability to care for my kids., said Charlesworth. Its not like I can go out and find a teaching job anywhere.
While Charlesworths husband went to jail on two felony charges she says she felt like a criminal too. And thats what it felt like, the kids and I were being punished for something we didnt even do, she told NBC 7 San Diego.
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There are days I wish I was lawyer. It’d be almost too easy.
This is how life is in the People’s Republic of Obamastan.
In my daughter’s school, several of the teachers quietly carry.
This is not a public school, it’s a Catholic school. So the legal issues may be different.
'Charlesworth and her four kids, who also attended Holy Trinity School, have not been back since the January incident. A letter was sent home to parents the following day, explaining the situation and noting Charlesworth and her children were being put "on an indefinite leave.'
'Several parents at Holy Trinity, not disclosing their names out of safety concerns, said the district did the right thing in a no-win situation because they feared for the safety of their own children. Several parents mentioned being part of a movement to pull kids out of the school if Charlesworth returned.'
"She is being paid through August, but doesnt know where shell turn next. Her ex-husband is scheduled to be released from Jail at the end of June."
Now that I read the part about this lady’s husband showing up on the school’s property, I’m a bit disputed here. As a parent, I can see their point of view concerning the safety of their kids. And that is a private school, right? This is a tough one.
Read the entire article.
What are these schools supposed to do? She has a volatile husband / father and in this day and age with security and schools, I’m not sure what the alternative is. What if some day he stormed the school and used violence against people?! Then what? I think they should have allowed the children to stay and moved the mother into a desk job at the archdiocesan office until her situation with her husband improved.
I am not without sympathy for the woman. But in the real world, private sector: One can easly lose one’s job for anything like this that is distracting, causes unplanned or excessive absences, brings negative publicity to the person or employer, etc.,etc.
It is unfortunate for her situation, but I expect it happens much more often than we hear about.
I never dated a woman in the South, including my wife, who didn’t have a pistol in their purse. Not one.
You do realize that she was fired by the Catholic Diocese, not by the State of California?
I’ll add to my previous comment, that this is one of the reasons I send my kids to private school. Because the administration can adjust the faculty as required to meet the student’s needs. This should be a note to young women out there: do not marry violent-prone losers!
Terrible outcome. I can see why the school did what they did, but what’s the teacher supposed to do when she’s done everything right? I hope she does find another teaching job.
Doesn’t matter. In 2013 it’s an open-and-shut case. The only variable is how much money she’d win. I was in a class action suit against a former employer who merely wasn’t paying us adequate overtime. I made more money from the suit than I ever made working there. This is several steps above that and years later. She ought to send them a gift basket.
Not in this case - it's a private parochial school, so you'd have a hard time getting the case in front of a jury. There's no tenure issue at stake and she's not a public employee, so I can't see a valid cause of action.
Your case was very different from this one. In your case, you had an employer who had violated state and/or federal wage and hour laws. In this case, the employer has violated no law.
I wonder if these types of firings go on at other places of employment.
A company here in Texas gave their founder/CEO $25 million to go away, yet he kept making noises that he still owned the place and he could come and go as he pleased. The company hired a security firm who placed me in their offices at night in case he fulfilled his promise. Yes, I was armed. If I mentioned their name, you’d probably recognize them, and yes, they were a religious type organization. And no, he never showed up.
I’ll bet you a dollar that there’s a law somewhere that covers this. Especially in California.
"Quietly", is a good idea.
While I sympathize with her when your life problems follow you to work to the point they need to go on lock down and somebody winds up with 2 felonies you’ve become a liability. If you really think that certain somebody is going to follow you to work, so much so that you warn your boss to be “on the lookout” that’s probably a good day to call in sick and get your life back under control.
Considering his history, it's likely she will end up as a homicide statistic........
Normally I would recommend home protection but in California.....who knows.
She's better off moving to a CPL friendly state and starting all over....
Yea, you're absolutely right and that is California.
In other states which have open CPL laws and Stand Your Ground laws, the members of those schools would likely be more supportive and protective of her teacher status and willing to stand by her........
While dating the future Mrs. Lucky, I generally carried a pistol in my pocket.
Good for you but I might suggest you go back to law school. But let me save you a first semester of tuition by mentioning that California is an At Will state.............
Did you get your JD out of a box of Cracker Jack?
It is a sad situation, but she had best spend her time figuring out another job, and I doubt it will be teaching.
Jeez, can you read? I said I wish I was a lawyer.
See my post #31.
I can read, apparently you can’t.
As someone else mentioned, teachers, especially private school teachers, are generally on contracts that have to be renewed annually. That is because, if the enrollment declines, they have to reduce staffing. Since the diocese has been paying her and will continue to pay her until August (probably the end of her contract), technically she is not being fired - her contract is not being renewed. There is no law I have ever seen that would require a private employer to renew a contract that has expired, especially with an employee whose presence could pose a danger to the staff and students at the site.
Are you sure you weren't just glad to see her?
You don't have to be a lawyer to know what "At Will" employment means.............
For starters, she picked the wrong man to be her husband. Then, she had kids with him.
That's two easy ones she did wrong.
“While I sympathize with her when your life problems follow you to work to the point they need to go on lock down...”
It’s kind of hard for me to find a balance when the schools go into ‘lockdown’ over a pop-tart a keychain or a nerf gun.
This is California, after all.
We’re in such an upside-down state right now that none of us really knows black from white. I remember a time that I could judge right from wrong, but now it’s all murky.
So it’s all her fault then that she was abused? Great. I bet women are to blame when they get raped too.
If the “domestic violence advocates” are upset about this, they may want to look into how CPS, in various states, treat women with abusive husbands. Thousands of kids are stolen by those monsters because the mother “failed to protect them against the abusive husband/father”. It’s a routine practice and it’s against the law, but they still have thousands of kids in custody for it.
Why do this teacher’s right to work, come ahead of childrens’ safety? The school is probably afraid of another Newton massacre. The teacher told them her husband was dangerous, and to “look out for him”. Well, guess what? It is not your employer’s responsibility to keep you safe from your ex-husband; the school is only responsible for keeping the children safe. I am sure lots of feminists will rally around this woman, but the fact is what her employer did is not illegal or discriminatory. They terminated her employment for safety reasons. Feminism and domestic violence advocates almost never consider children - only women.