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Domestic Violence Victim Fired From Teaching
NBC ^ | 6/12/2013 | STEVEN LUKE

Posted on 06/12/2013 1:39:34 PM PDT by South40

A local second grade teacher is out of a job, but not for anything she did in the classroom. Carie Charlesworth is a victim of domestic violence and her school district considers her a liability and too unsafe to have around. Charlesworth was fired by Holy Trinity School in January after an incident involving her ex-husband.

“They’ve taken away my ability to care for my kids.,” said Charlesworth. “It’s not like I can go out and find a teaching job anywhere.”

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While Charlesworth’s husband went to jail on two felony charges she says she felt like a criminal too. “And that’s what it felt like, the kids and I were being punished for something we didn’t even do,” she told NBC 7 San Diego.

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1 posted on 06/12/2013 1:39:34 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

There are days I wish I was lawyer. It’d be almost too easy.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 1:44:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: South40

This is how life is in the People’s Republic of Obamastan.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 1:48:25 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In my daughter’s school, several of the teachers quietly carry.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 1:48:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: South40

This is not a public school, it’s a Catholic school. So the legal issues may be different.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 1:49:14 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: South40

Dicks


6 posted on 06/12/2013 1:49:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: South40
"When Charlesworth’s ex-husband showed up in the school parking lot - the school went into lockdown."

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'Charlesworth and her four kids, who also attended Holy Trinity School, have not been back since the January incident. A letter was sent home to parents the following day, explaining the situation and noting Charlesworth and her children were being put "on an indefinite leave.”'

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'Several parents at Holy Trinity, not disclosing their names out of safety concerns, said the district did the right thing in a no-win situation because they feared for the safety of their own children. Several parents mentioned being part of a movement to “pull kids out of the school” if Charlesworth returned.'

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"She is being paid through August, but doesn’t know where she’ll turn next. Her ex-husband is scheduled to be released from Jail at the end of June."

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7 posted on 06/12/2013 1:49:59 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: South40

Now that I read the part about this lady’s husband showing up on the school’s property, I’m a bit disputed here. As a parent, I can see their point of view concerning the safety of their kids. And that is a private school, right? This is a tough one.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 1:50:47 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read the entire article.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 1:50:47 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are these schools supposed to do? She has a volatile husband / father and in this day and age with security and schools, I’m not sure what the alternative is. What if some day he stormed the school and used violence against people?! Then what? I think they should have allowed the children to stay and moved the mother into a desk job at the archdiocesan office until her situation with her husband improved.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 1:51:18 PM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall
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To: South40

I am not without sympathy for the woman. But in the real world, private sector: One can easly lose one’s job for anything like this that is distracting, causes unplanned or excessive absences, brings negative publicity to the person or employer, etc.,etc.

It is unfortunate for her situation, but I expect it happens much more often than we hear about.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 1:51:22 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I never dated a woman in the South, including my wife, who didn’t have a pistol in their purse. Not one.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 1:51:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: South40
She was on "indefinite leave" for three months. Even though the perp was in prison. Why didn't she go back to work?
13 posted on 06/12/2013 1:52:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: TBP
This is how life is in the People’s Republic of Obamastan.

You do realize that she was fired by the Catholic Diocese, not by the State of California?

14 posted on 06/12/2013 1:52:52 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

I’ll add to my previous comment, that this is one of the reasons I send my kids to private school. Because the administration can adjust the faculty as required to meet the student’s needs. This should be a note to young women out there: do not marry violent-prone losers!


15 posted on 06/12/2013 1:53:29 PM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall
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To: South40

Terrible outcome. I can see why the school did what they did, but what’s the teacher supposed to do when she’s done everything right? I hope she does find another teaching job.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 1:54:18 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Doesn’t matter. In 2013 it’s an open-and-shut case. The only variable is how much money she’d win. I was in a class action suit against a former employer who merely wasn’t paying us adequate overtime. I made more money from the suit than I ever made working there. This is several steps above that and years later. She ought to send them a gift basket.


17 posted on 06/12/2013 1:55:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are days I wish I was lawyer. It’d be almost too easy.

Not in this case - it's a private parochial school, so you'd have a hard time getting the case in front of a jury. There's no tenure issue at stake and she's not a public employee, so I can't see a valid cause of action.

18 posted on 06/12/2013 1:55:56 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was in a class action suit against a former employer who merely wasn’t paying us adequate overtime.

Your case was very different from this one. In your case, you had an employer who had violated state and/or federal wage and hour laws. In this case, the employer has violated no law.

19 posted on 06/12/2013 1:58:39 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: South40
“I have not been back to a catholic church since this happened” said Charlesworth

Hmm.

I wonder if these types of firings go on at other places of employment.

20 posted on 06/12/2013 1:59:41 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

A company here in Texas gave their founder/CEO $25 million to go away, yet he kept making noises that he still owned the place and he could come and go as he pleased. The company hired a security firm who placed me in their offices at night in case he fulfilled his promise. Yes, I was armed. If I mentioned their name, you’d probably recognize them, and yes, they were a religious type organization. And no, he never showed up.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 2:00:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: CA Conservative

I’ll bet you a dollar that there’s a law somewhere that covers this. Especially in California.


22 posted on 06/12/2013 2:01:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
In my daughter’s school, several of the teachers quietly carry.

"Quietly", is a good idea.

Teacher admits having gun on campus

23 posted on 06/12/2013 2:02:49 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

While I sympathize with her when your life problems follow you to work to the point they need to go on lock down and somebody winds up with 2 felonies you’ve become a liability. If you really think that certain somebody is going to follow you to work, so much so that you warn your boss to be “on the lookout” that’s probably a good day to call in sick and get your life back under control.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 2:04:27 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: South40
She is being paid through August, but doesn’t know where she’ll turn next. Her ex-husband is scheduled to be released from Jail at the end of June.

Considering his history, it's likely she will end up as a homicide statistic........

Normally I would recommend home protection but in California.....who knows.

She's better off moving to a CPL friendly state and starting all over....

25 posted on 06/12/2013 2:08:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Durbin
As a parent, I can see their point of view concerning the safety of their kids. And that is a private school, right?

Yea, you're absolutely right and that is California.

In other states which have open CPL laws and Stand Your Ground laws, the members of those schools would likely be more supportive and protective of her teacher status and willing to stand by her........

26 posted on 06/12/2013 2:13:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While dating the future Mrs. Lucky, I generally carried a pistol in my pocket.


27 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:59 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Doesn’t matter. In 2013 it’s an open-and-shut case.... I was in a class action suit against a former employer who merely wasn’t paying us adequate overtime.

Good for you but I might suggest you go back to law school. But let me save you a first semester of tuition by mentioning that California is an At Will state.............

28 posted on 06/12/2013 2:23:48 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did you get your JD out of a box of Cracker Jack?


29 posted on 06/12/2013 2:25:33 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: CA Conservative
I believe you are right. The only commitment they have to her is her contract and seems they are paying her to the end of it. Even in public schools, contracts are signed year to year.

It is a sad situation, but she had best spend her time figuring out another job, and I doubt it will be teaching.

vaudine

30 posted on 06/12/2013 2:27:02 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Jeez, can you read? I said I wish I was a lawyer.


31 posted on 06/12/2013 2:29:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

See my post #31.


32 posted on 06/12/2013 2:32:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can read, apparently you can’t.


33 posted on 06/12/2013 2:34:54 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As someone else mentioned, teachers, especially private school teachers, are generally on contracts that have to be renewed annually. That is because, if the enrollment declines, they have to reduce staffing. Since the diocese has been paying her and will continue to pay her until August (probably the end of her contract), technically she is not being fired - her contract is not being renewed. There is no law I have ever seen that would require a private employer to renew a contract that has expired, especially with an employee whose presence could pose a danger to the staff and students at the site.


34 posted on 06/12/2013 2:37:55 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Mr. Lucky
While dating the future Mrs. Lucky, I generally carried a pistol in my pocket.

Are you sure you weren't just glad to see her?

35 posted on 06/12/2013 2:59:35 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
See my post #31.

You don't have to be a lawyer to know what "At Will" employment means.............

36 posted on 06/12/2013 3:12:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: JCBreckenridge
but what’s the teacher supposed to do when she’s done everything right?

Huh?

For starters, she picked the wrong man to be her husband. Then, she had kids with him.

That's two easy ones she did wrong.

37 posted on 06/12/2013 3:58:05 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: discostu

“While I sympathize with her when your life problems follow you to work to the point they need to go on lock down...”

It’s kind of hard for me to find a balance when the schools go into ‘lockdown’ over a pop-tart a keychain or a nerf gun.

This is California, after all.

We’re in such an upside-down state right now that none of us really knows black from white. I remember a time that I could judge right from wrong, but now it’s all murky.


38 posted on 06/12/2013 5:08:58 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Balding_Eagle

So it’s all her fault then that she was abused? Great. I bet women are to blame when they get raped too.


39 posted on 06/12/2013 7:35:06 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: South40

If the “domestic violence advocates” are upset about this, they may want to look into how CPS, in various states, treat women with abusive husbands. Thousands of kids are stolen by those monsters because the mother “failed to protect them against the abusive husband/father”. It’s a routine practice and it’s against the law, but they still have thousands of kids in custody for it.


40 posted on 06/12/2013 7:41:08 PM PDT by Lordosis699
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To: South40

Why do this teacher’s right to work, come ahead of childrens’ safety? The school is probably afraid of another Newton massacre. The teacher told them her husband was dangerous, and to “look out for him”. Well, guess what? It is not your employer’s responsibility to keep you safe from your ex-husband; the school is only responsible for keeping the children safe. I am sure lots of feminists will rally around this woman, but the fact is what her employer did is not illegal or discriminatory. They terminated her employment for safety reasons. Feminism and domestic violence advocates almost never consider children - only women.


41 posted on 06/12/2013 8:05:43 PM PDT by FlowerMiller
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