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GOP Rep. Notices IRS Agents Training with AR-15s During DHS Tour: Im Looking Into the Issue Now
http://www.theblaze.com ^ | June 12, 2013 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 06/12/2013 1:51:49 PM PDT by Whenifhow

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51 posted on 06/12/2013 4:03:33 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: ataDude
Got news for you. The Feds use fully automatic M16s.

Good for them. They will run through their ammo quickly while those who are trained and keep their heads will be able to quickly defeat them.

52 posted on 06/12/2013 4:04:46 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“I guess they are going to drop all pretense, and just KILL conservatives now....”

Not quite, Mr. Banker. The second and most important question must be raised: Can these fat, desk-bound slobs hit the broadside of a barn?


53 posted on 06/12/2013 4:25:47 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Whenifhow

A very easy, simple step for the next Republican congress should be to bar non-police and non-intelligence federal agencies from stockpiling weapons or having tactical teams.

If they need some to enforce the law, they should contact one of the 100+ federal police agencies that would perform these duties for them.

The noteworthy example of this nonsense was when the Department of Education sent its SWAT team to raid the home of an education aid fraud suspect. They raided the home where her ex-husband and children lived, but she had not, for over six months.

Since these agencies have not had the authority to order weapons and tactical equipment, nor set up tactical teams, for very long, they would not realistically suffer losing them.

And it would be remarkably easy legislation for congress to pass. One of a thousand or more to put the US back on track.


54 posted on 06/12/2013 4:26:36 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Whenifhow

Obama will read about this in the newspaper and be “shocked”


55 posted on 06/12/2013 4:30:55 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: silverleaf
obama’s domestic army

Agreed, but the IRS is just one of the many 3 letter agencies who will be this private civilian army that "O" boasted that he needed and wanted to be just as well trained and equipped as the Military to do his bidding (his version of Hitler's Brown Shirts). If this man and all of his appointed minions are not removed from office he will have his way.

Ah but he again will not be seen as the aggressor. He will not strike first. He will wait, cause pain and distress and cause the people to make the move he wants. All that has happened lately is just part of the plan. Perhaps I am wrong...I do hope that I am!

56 posted on 06/12/2013 4:33:51 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: Whenifhow

Now you know where all those billions and billions of hollow point bullets are going for. To train to kill citizens. Why else would they have them. WHY does clerks in a bunch of offices NEED AR15s???????????????????? To murder citizens with. That is why.


57 posted on 06/12/2013 4:46:21 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: no-to-illegals

If you don’t know, Civil Service rules allows an LEO to retire after 25 years of service. That is why a lot of the Gov’t unions push to classify the agency’s with LEO designation. I worked for the Defense investigative Service in the mid eighties, (security background investigations), and there was a push to attempt to make us LEO designated. Eventually they split off a criminal side of the DIS to accommodate it.

It’s all about higher pay scales and early retirements. It has nothing to do with threats of violence to the employees.


58 posted on 06/12/2013 4:46:58 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: unixfox

Don’t they need to be armed because they deal with people’s money?


59 posted on 06/12/2013 4:47:36 PM PDT by frickin_frackin
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To: usnavy_cop_retired
busyline ... let me get back to you. My thanks though for the info.
60 posted on 06/12/2013 4:50:11 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Whenifhow

https://twitter.com/RepJeffDuncan


61 posted on 06/12/2013 4:52:57 PM PDT by superfries
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To: All

not news really, they have been armed forever.

remember that tv show “lottery!” back in the 80’s? the irs agent was carrying a handgun.


62 posted on 06/12/2013 5:26:06 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Jane Long; RobertClark

Thank you.

I’ll be here all week.

Don’t forget to tip your waitress.


63 posted on 06/12/2013 5:31:19 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: usnavy_cop_retired
Sorry FRiend ... was busy at the moment of your ping. Thank You Sincerely for the post, and Thank You for your Service.
64 posted on 06/12/2013 5:47:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Tax collectors with “assault weapons”. Nothing good came come of this. The Muzzies thought they had it rough being water-boarded. That was a piece of cake compared to being hit with a .223 round.


65 posted on 06/12/2013 5:49:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: silverleaf
"you WILL buy health insurance, comrade"

I expect they'll be part of the government force that comes for your guns and gold...one day.

66 posted on 06/12/2013 5:49:14 PM PDT by blam
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To: Renegade
Slide fire on an AR 15 ...

That would be interesting to try. If you have one, are you able to hold the muzzle on target?

67 posted on 06/12/2013 5:49:18 PM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

And if that doesn’t work out they can try out for TSA...


68 posted on 06/12/2013 5:56:16 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Wait until you see how well the census-takers are in 2020!


69 posted on 06/12/2013 6:03:10 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Geoffrey

My wife has a co-worker who has a female spouse who is an armed IRS agent. They get involved in lots of Earned Income Tax Credit fraud and “who takes the child deduction since we’re not married” fraud. It is not unreasonable for some of them to be armed.

AR training? Absurd. It is past time to scale back our domestic Federal standing army of agents.

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”


70 posted on 06/12/2013 6:36:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Geoffrey

>>lots of IRS were armed.

Big whoop. With the lack of PT and fitness standards self-evident among their bloated and Oba-medicated carcasses, the majority of them would croak from heat injuries and/or cardiac events before they managed to cover 100 yards at full waddle.

ESAD FOAD - if you do, you will. Bon Appetit.


71 posted on 06/12/2013 6:47:26 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Whenifhow

Perfect Bureaucratic Idiocy:

Shooting the taxpayers that pay your salary!


72 posted on 06/12/2013 7:11:31 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yup...noticed a new office going up here in York, PA a few months ago. There was some building going on and we couldn’t figure out what type of business it was going to be...turned out to be the worst business of all...an IRS office.


73 posted on 06/12/2013 7:59:03 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Well, if you hadn’t setup a group to demean and shrink the government then the government wouldn’t have to resort to this level”

You know - YOU KNOW - some idiot liberal somewhere thought this while reading this article.


74 posted on 06/12/2013 8:18:33 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Flint

“So beware when you fill out your 1040 that you don’t fudge on it.”

Are you hiding something? Why bury your head in the stand? Fight. Better to fill it out, but handwritten. Sloppy, with stray marks or odd pens. Make sure they cannot use their automated scanners to read it and it requires human review. Do it correctly however, double check your arithmetic.

And, for a bonus, neglect $50 or $100 in deductions, then submit an amended return to get that extra $10 bucks back. Bury those f-——z in paperwork. File quarterly estimates.


76 posted on 06/12/2013 9:43:17 PM PDT by wrencher
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To: Whenifhow

The only guberment organization that was able to take down Al Capone... Nothing to worry about.


77 posted on 06/12/2013 10:16:41 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: SisterK

Way longer than that. Gun fights between moonshiners and revenuers are the stuff of legend.

“Now the revenue man wanted Grandaddy bad
He headed up the holler with everything he had
It’s before my time but I’ve been told
He never come back from Copperhead Road.”

~ Copperhead Road, Steve Earle


78 posted on 06/12/2013 11:39:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: tpmintx

Takes lots of practice but gets REALLY expensive to fire that way nowadays!You Tube video will show you the conversion of the stock .Not hard to do .


79 posted on 06/13/2013 3:11:14 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Whenifhow

I don’t know if the house or senate or both can stop the funding of this, but they must! If they can’t see what obama is doing, they should not be representing us.


80 posted on 06/13/2013 5:17:33 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Like I said so many times....I don’t for a second think the GOP, the likes of McCain et al...knew nothing about how the Dems were manipulating the mortgages in the 90’s. I don’t believe they knew nothing about the abuse of Tea Party types by the IRS. I don’t believe they know nothing about the awful foreign policy that led to Benghazi. I don’t believe they know nothing about the purchase of all this ammunition by the DHS,

And if they knew nothing about it, I’ll throw out there, then they are totally incompetent.

Either way, at best we have no opposition party. At worst, the blue blood GOP is working WITH the Dems while trying to look ignorant of it all.

Cause the likes of McCain et al....THEY HATE THE TEA PARTY TOO!

Not to worry cause Americans aren’t going to take this sitting down. We have guns and we’re going to fight back. The ones that will go down will be mostly stupid liberals.

Obama’s doing what Obama does and he does it well. It’s the guys on OUR side who are the problem.


81 posted on 06/13/2013 5:53:36 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Whenifhow

AR-15 or not, why does anyone in the IRS need a weapon to do their job?


82 posted on 06/13/2013 6:06:47 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Linda Frances; LucyT; All

IRS AGENTS TRAIN WITH AR-15s – ARE THEY PREPARING TO ‘TARGET’ MORE CONSERVATIVES?

http://patriotaction.net/forum/topic/show?id=2600775%3ATopic%3A6269919&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

The IRS defends the training, in a statement that reads, in part:

As law enforcement officials, IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agents are equipped similarly to other federal, state and local law enforcement organizations. Special Agents receive training on the appropriate and safe use of assigned weapons.

In responding to the revelation about IRS agents training on AR-15s at a DHS facility, the agency included a link to its enforcement website (http://www.irs.gov/uac/Criminal-Investigation-%28CI%29-At-a-Glance). Okay, we checked out that link and found no obvious reference to the need for, or use of, high-powered “assault rifles”.


83 posted on 06/13/2013 6:11:12 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
yeah, like that's gonna help...
84 posted on 06/13/2013 6:31:59 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: Linda Frances
I don’t know if the house or senate or both can stop the funding of this, but they must!

What makes you think they (politicians, R & D) WANT to stop it?

85 posted on 06/13/2013 7:01:32 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: LucyT

fyi


86 posted on 06/13/2013 7:48:25 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Whenifhow

They rush ordered and then cancelled a bunch of spying devices too.


87 posted on 06/13/2013 8:09:13 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Geoffrey

My daughter’s best friend is an IRS collection agent. While she is not armed, she is often accompanied by armed agents on her assignments. Treasury agents in the past were called T Men, think Elliot Ness, and they were armed . Additionally every LEO agency, fed, state, and local have developed SWAT type units. Even the Education Dept has had such a unit for some time.. Agencies don’t like calling on other agencies for help, even for SWAT type scenarios so they arm and give half ass training to their own and send them out.I really don’t think 25K IRS agents will be marching out with M 16s anytime soon.


88 posted on 06/13/2013 8:27:05 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Whenifhow

Obama ordered his IRS to rig the election of 2012 for Obama and democrats/socialists in the Senate. Obama also used other gov agencies to rig the election. Why isn’t anyone shouting this form the rooftops? Come on Levin, coulter , Sarah Palin, Rush, DRudge etc. call Obama out on this and call for Obama’s resignation.

Obama’s IRS prevented many tea party groups from getting started The IRS stole the election. We no longer live in a free country

IRS Employee: D.C. Told Us To Target Tea Party

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3026441/posts?page=1

government never works as the IRS scandal shows

government can’t be trusted

but liberals/democrats trust government and love gov


89 posted on 06/13/2013 8:32:10 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Kartographer

If someone doesn’t see the need to prep at this point, there’s no hope for them.


90 posted on 06/13/2013 9:02:50 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: sergeantdave

” The second and most important question must be raised: Can these fat, desk-bound slobs hit the broadside of a barn?”

LOL....more likely, the barn side of a broad : )


91 posted on 06/13/2013 9:26:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Linda Frances

“...I don’t know if the house or senate or both can stop the funding of this, but they must! If they can’t see what obama is doing, they should not be representing us....”

Oh, they see it alright. They’re all scared spit-less because of odongo’s use of PRISM software weapon: He has the goods & dirt on just about all of em. Just ask Herman Cain, David Patreaus, Mitt Romney and of course, last but not least, our modern day Benedict Arnold, John Roberts. They’ve all seen the damage that PRISM can do and how it was used against these people. Odongo has them right where he wants them: hiding under their desks in dire fear that their dirtiest and deepest secrets will be revealed to the public. Blackmail is a powerful weapon on a politician, especially gutless ones. The only way these tyrants are going to be ousted is by the people. They fear the people and thus have armed themselves to the hilt. This is truly a usurped government preparing for war with the people.


92 posted on 06/13/2013 9:28:14 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

” Tax collectors with “assault weapons”. Nothing good came come of this.”

No to worry......they only target conservatives....


93 posted on 06/13/2013 9:29:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Personal Responsibility

Absolutely.


94 posted on 06/13/2013 9:29:43 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Fishtalk

” Either way, at best we have no opposition party. At worst, the blue blood GOP is working WITH the Dems while trying to look ignorant of it all.

Cause the likes of McCain et al....THEY HATE THE TEA PARTY TOO!”

They hate the Tea party because they can’t be CONTROLLED.


95 posted on 06/13/2013 9:33:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: blam; M. Espinola
22 Nauseating Quotes From Hypocritical Establishment Politicians About The NSA Spying Scandal
96 posted on 06/13/2013 9:42:23 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: TBP
“And I will keep looking into it until everyone forgets about it.”

HEH!

97 posted on 06/13/2013 9:46:57 AM PDT by USS Johnston
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To: Whenifhow

“There are many reasons to ask why the #IRS needs heavy firepower. For one we are 17 trillion in debt. Two is it even appropriate? #PJNET”

No one collects 17T with harsh words and letters.

Follow the money. It’s all about the debt and who will service it: serfs.

Fealty -an old word which is coming around again.


98 posted on 06/13/2013 9:53:50 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Geoffrey
He said he needed to be armed for his IRS work and that lots of IRS were armed.

Move along. Nothing at all to see here.

/sarc

99 posted on 06/13/2013 9:57:53 AM PDT by USS Johnston
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To: Roccus
Wonder who here at FR is gonna declare that Duncan is a traitor for leaking this?

Those who feel safer with Boehner, McCain, Graham, Feinstein, Mr. Fast & Furious, Big Guv and...the Pat-Act "protecting" our liberties?

100 posted on 06/13/2013 9:57:53 AM PDT by USS Johnston
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