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First verified lie from Ed Snowden
blackfive.net ^ | 6-12-2013 | Uncle Jimbo

Posted on 06/12/2013 1:58:38 PM PDT by servo1969

NSA leaker Ed Snowden claimed to have broken both of his legs while training for Special Forces.

"In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. Invoking the same principles that he now cites to justify his leaks, he said: "I wanted to fight in the Iraq war because I felt like I had an obligation as a human being to help free people from oppression"."

That is simply not true as the statement from the Special Warfare Center & School below clearly points out.

"Snowden was never a student at SWCS. He broke his legs while at Fort Benning. His intent was to enter the X-ray program – but that never happened and would not have happened because he only had a GED. Hope this helps.

Janice Burton

Deputy

Office of Strategic Communications"

The 18 X-ray program is a way to go directly from the street to the Special Forces course. You first would attend basic and advanced individual training and then airborne school. Upon successful conclusion of those you head to Bragg for some prep training and the Special Forces Assessment and Selection course. If you pass all of those, then and only then do you start Special Forces training.

Mr. Snowden wasn't even eligible for this program as he didn't even graduate from High School. So the claim that he broke his legs in Special Forces training is BS and that makes him a poseur. Well actually not even a poseur, he claimed to be training to be SF, so that makes him a poseur wannabe, or a wannabe poseur. I'm not real sure how the semantics of that work out. But either way, not really a great way to build credibility. He also made this claim that never rang true when I first read it.

"He recounted how his beliefs about the war's purpose were quickly dispelled. "Most of the people training us seemed pumped up about killing Arabs, not helping anyone," he said."

Right, so the people who weren't training you for Special Forces also happened to be knuckle-dragging troglodytes who were simply looking for a chance to go smoke some A-Rabs. Well I'm not buying it Eddie. I ran into plenty of your types in the military, disaffected losers who never actually finish anything but always have a bucket-load of excuses and who were always whining about how the system sucks. They were never responsible for their own failures, it was always oppression by the man. They were just too smart for the fools running things to recognize their brilliance. Sound familiar? They were also all varying flavors of bats**t as well. Check out Ed's spymaster tradecraft.

"WASHINGTON — The source had instructed his media contacts to come to Hong Kong, visit a particular out-of-the-way corner of a certain hotel, and ask — loudly — for directions to another part of the hotel. If all seemed well, the source would walk past holding a Rubik’s Cube."

A Rubik's Cube, now there is a really good way to remain nondescript. Or this bit of counter-surveillance expertise.

"He is deeply worried about being spied on. He lines the door of his hotel room with pillows to prevent eavesdropping. He puts a large red hood over his head and laptop when entering his passwords to prevent any hidden cameras from detecting them."

A red hood? Even the writer who is taking in all of this BS and peddling it to the public is making fun of you dude. Why do I get the feeling Ed also had a ninja outfit and throwing stars?

Whether or not Ed has any information that the government was doing illegal or even improper things is a completely separate discussion. The fact that Ed is a BS-peddling wannabe poseur is now established and ought to be taken into account when judging his words and actions.

UPDATE: Jonn Lilyea at This Aint Hell is also looking at the other things about Snowden that seem to have an air of barnyard ordure about them and had a pretty good idea the PNG wasn't in the Q course earlier this week.


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1 posted on 06/12/2013 1:58:38 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
So the claim that he broke his legs in Special Forces training is BS and that makes him a poseur. Well actually not even a poseur, he claimed to be training to be SF, so that makes him a poseur wannabe, or a wannabe poseur. I'm not real sure how the semantics of that work out.

In Mr. Snowden's case, I think "douche-nozzle" covers all the semantic bases.

2 posted on 06/12/2013 2:01:57 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: servo1969; All

Is the IRS Lois Lerner to be trusted?

Did Clapper lie?

Do you think that SWCS can be trusted?

Do you think that any part of the federal gov’t - directly or in directly - can be trusted right now?

Do you think that a massive ad hominem attack against Snowden is possible, and/or a circling of the wagons, pro-Obama style?


3 posted on 06/12/2013 2:04:01 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: WayneS

Maybe he is a Clapper wannabe and this version of events was his attempt at giving “the least untruthful version.”


4 posted on 06/12/2013 2:04:30 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: WayneS
But is he lying about what's going on in the Obama Administration?

Don't you remember poor Linda Tripp and her arrest as a youth?

I don't give a damn about this man. All I want is his information. The concentration on him as a person is irrelevant.

5 posted on 06/12/2013 2:05:14 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t really care about Snowden, I’m more concerned about our growing and oppressive government.


6 posted on 06/12/2013 2:05:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: servo1969

[Well actually not even a poseur, he claimed to be training to be SF, so that makes him a poseur wannabe, or a wannabe poseur.]

A dumb poseur. The military stores service records forever.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 2:06:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: servo1969
Is this just semantics? The article admits Snowden intented to enter a program for the special forces

"NSA leaker Ed Snowden claimed to have broken both of his legs while training for Special Forces. "

The article treats the above statement like "while training as part of the special forces". While Snowden could have meant "while training to get into Special Forces".

8 posted on 06/12/2013 2:06:38 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: servo1969

Maybe he got snookered into proposing to the ballerina/pole-dancer and figured this as a way out.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 2:06:44 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: servo1969

Alinsky rules. /sarc


10 posted on 06/12/2013 2:06:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t really care about Snowden, I’m more concerned about our growing and oppressive government.


Exactly!

He’s brought attention to this and that’s a good thing.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 2:07:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: miss marmelstein
But is he lying about what's going on in the Obama Administration?

I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

12 posted on 06/12/2013 2:07:22 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: servo1969

“He broke his legs while at Fort Benning. “

Broke his legs, how?


13 posted on 06/12/2013 2:07:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
A dumb poseur. The military stores service records forever.

Unless you're Bill Clinton or John Kerry, in which case a mysterious fire breaks out in the warehouse.


14 posted on 06/12/2013 2:08:09 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: servo1969

“Snowden was never a student at SWCS.”

Is there any way his record (data) could have been altered?
I seem to remember a certain saudi national having his
documents and records altered my Napotlatano so he could
beat a hasty getaway.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 2:08:25 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: CodeToad

Probably jump school. You have to be airborne qualified to be SF. That would have been the first step heading to SF training.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 2:09:11 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Did Clapper lie?

Is this a clapper caper?

17 posted on 06/12/2013 2:10:20 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: servo1969
The article itself, rather, has a strong fragrance, something like `Essence of Demonization', say, from the office of the WH press secretary: smells like BS photo: Smells like BS! bullpq7.jpg
18 posted on 06/12/2013 2:10:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: servo1969

So in two weeks we know everything about Snowden - his truths and lies.......five years since obama was elected still we know nothing about obama’s past or his present and
ten+ years since he has actively been involved in politics and we know nothing.


19 posted on 06/12/2013 2:10:51 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

St. Louis fire.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 2:11:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: servo1969
Oh brother.

Is the government collecting data on Americans without just cause or not?

Seems that should be our focus here.

This smearing and obfuscating sh*t has got to stop.

21 posted on 06/12/2013 2:11:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: DannyTN

I think that’s the case. This man is a hero and a patriot, a fox in a world of sheep and wolves.


22 posted on 06/12/2013 2:11:31 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: cripplecreek
I’m more concerned about our growing and oppressive government.

Agreed. But I've been concerned about that since WAY before Obama took office. He is, without a doubt, the most enthusiastic purveyor of government oppression of U.S. citizens since Woodrow Wilson, but at least he's turning out to not be very good at it.

23 posted on 06/12/2013 2:12:04 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t really care about Snowden, I’m more concerned about our growing and oppressive government.

More and more I'm thinking this is yet another distraction....I dunno, I'll give it some more time to see what comes of it.

24 posted on 06/12/2013 2:12:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: PapaNew
Is this a clapper caper?

He lied back when he was a copper.

25 posted on 06/12/2013 2:12:42 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: servo1969
All of this is irrelevant is it not?

What he said was true or false, on its own merits.

EIther the gubmint is or is not spying on us.

I saw the court order itself, in the Guardian yesterday.

It looked real to me. (not that that is worth anything). Court Order

Judging by the reaction, I'd have to say it's more true than not.

26 posted on 06/12/2013 2:13:21 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He’s getting Nakoulaed. Menawhile, liar Weiner gets to run for mayor, plagiarist/liar Slow Joe is still VP, and liar Mrs. Bill will become leader of the formerly-free world.


27 posted on 06/12/2013 2:13:34 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: servo1969

I’ve been telling people if you don’t have a High School Diploma you are disqualified for many specialized jobs, including being an underwater BB stacker.

This guys is an invention. A nice shiny object for your distraction.

Enigma/Ultra


28 posted on 06/12/2013 2:14:31 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: WayneS
I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

My assumption is his charges regarding massive data archiving are based upon something more than his word.

29 posted on 06/12/2013 2:14:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RetiredArmy

Breaking both legs would seem to be unusual even for jump school and would be a noteworthy event.


30 posted on 06/12/2013 2:15:06 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: servo1969
NSA leaker Ed Snowden claimed to have broken both of his legs while training for Special Forces.

This might be a classic "impeach the witness smear" by the government. Where did Snowden make such a claim? We need a source other than hearsay.

31 posted on 06/12/2013 2:15:41 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: PapaNew
Oh No - not the Copper Clapper Caper !
32 posted on 06/12/2013 2:15:43 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: PapaNew

LOL!!


33 posted on 06/12/2013 2:15:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: servo1969

When you cannot refute what this guy says, you go for the personal attack. Point is, it is not being denied that what he has said that is relevant to the NSA is the truth.


34 posted on 06/12/2013 2:16:40 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: Slambat

“Is there any way his record (data) could have been altered?
I seem to remember a certain saudi national having his
documents and records altered my Napotlatano so he could
beat a hasty getaway.”

Sure. Just ask Obama.

Jump school? A car accident? Thrown out a window for being an asshole?

And with that same GED, there are only a few jobs the CIA would hire him for. Janitor for one.


35 posted on 06/12/2013 2:17:11 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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To: servo1969

It wasn’t a lie he just told the the story in the least untruthful way.


36 posted on 06/12/2013 2:17:39 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: servo1969
So, he DID break both legs?

During some type of physical activity (training)?

37 posted on 06/12/2013 2:17:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: servo1969

I am not sure, none of my children “graduated” from high school. They are homeschoolers. I am amazed at how little we really know and how much the information about this man can be manipulated.

No family interviews?

No friend interviews?


38 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:02 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; cripplecreek

” I don’t really care about Snowden, I’m more concerned about our growing and oppressive government.

More and more I’m thinking this is yet another distraction”

YUP


39 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Izzy Dunne
EIther the gubmint is or is not spying on us.

I read on FR today that the US Govt has no plans to end surveillance program. That answers that question.

40 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:05 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: servo1969

The only question that needs to be answered right now is whether or not the NSA has been spying on every single American Citizen?

So far all indications are that the answer to that question is YES.

Also, if Snowden lie about his credentials and could still get a job monitoring every single American’s private e-mails, text messages, Face Book posts, Google searches.... Then God only knows how many terrorists, unfriendly governments and blackmailers have the same access.

Right now all I want to know is how much has the government been spying and how long it has been going on and whether John Roberts was blackmailed into approving Obamacare.


41 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

LOL, ain’t that the truth. The military can’t even provide all vets with their DD-214 because of a fire a long time ago.


42 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:59 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: servo1969
Okay.

Who gave the orders to stand down in Benghazi and where was 0 that entire night?

43 posted on 06/12/2013 2:19:29 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: WayneS

“I don’t know. But if he’ll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he’ll lie about others.”

And I guess you’ve never lied about anything... I would guess he has a lot more guts and more honer than you ever did.

Maybe he could be lying about working for/with the NAS as well.


44 posted on 06/12/2013 2:19:36 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: servo1969
From the Guardian piece:

In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. Invoking the same principles that he now cites to justify his leaks, he said: "I wanted to fight in the Iraq war because I felt like I had an obligation as a human being to help free people from oppression".

He did not say he was in the special forces. He said he begain a training program to join.
45 posted on 06/12/2013 2:19:56 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: miss marmelstein

Helping the regime and media to assassinate this man’s name thus redirecting attention away from the criminality of the regime is SOP. Sad to see freepers jumping in to help the enemies of we the people.


46 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: servo1969

Does that make the information he leaked any less valid or is this just an extension of the smear campaign of the Clinton administration?


47 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: WayneS
I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

And I suppose you have never lied about anything?

48 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: WayneS
But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

If he has lied about what the government is doing, then why are they calling his actions treason instead of denying the veracity of his claims?

Besides, doesn't he have documents supporting his allegations?

49 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:26 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: WayneS
I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

Do you automatically believe everything that any blogger on the Internet spews?

50 posted on 06/12/2013 2:21:05 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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