Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

First verified lie from Ed Snowden
blackfive.net ^ | 6-12-2013 | Uncle Jimbo

Posted on 06/12/2013 1:58:38 PM PDT by servo1969

NSA leaker Ed Snowden claimed to have broken both of his legs while training for Special Forces.

"In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. Invoking the same principles that he now cites to justify his leaks, he said: "I wanted to fight in the Iraq war because I felt like I had an obligation as a human being to help free people from oppression"."

That is simply not true as the statement from the Special Warfare Center & School below clearly points out.

"Snowden was never a student at SWCS. He broke his legs while at Fort Benning. His intent was to enter the X-ray program – but that never happened and would not have happened because he only had a GED. Hope this helps.

Janice Burton

Deputy

Office of Strategic Communications"

The 18 X-ray program is a way to go directly from the street to the Special Forces course. You first would attend basic and advanced individual training and then airborne school. Upon successful conclusion of those you head to Bragg for some prep training and the Special Forces Assessment and Selection course. If you pass all of those, then and only then do you start Special Forces training.

Mr. Snowden wasn't even eligible for this program as he didn't even graduate from High School. So the claim that he broke his legs in Special Forces training is BS and that makes him a poseur. Well actually not even a poseur, he claimed to be training to be SF, so that makes him a poseur wannabe, or a wannabe poseur. I'm not real sure how the semantics of that work out. But either way, not really a great way to build credibility. He also made this claim that never rang true when I first read it.

"He recounted how his beliefs about the war's purpose were quickly dispelled. "Most of the people training us seemed pumped up about killing Arabs, not helping anyone," he said."

Right, so the people who weren't training you for Special Forces also happened to be knuckle-dragging troglodytes who were simply looking for a chance to go smoke some A-Rabs. Well I'm not buying it Eddie. I ran into plenty of your types in the military, disaffected losers who never actually finish anything but always have a bucket-load of excuses and who were always whining about how the system sucks. They were never responsible for their own failures, it was always oppression by the man. They were just too smart for the fools running things to recognize their brilliance. Sound familiar? They were also all varying flavors of bats**t as well. Check out Ed's spymaster tradecraft.

"WASHINGTON — The source had instructed his media contacts to come to Hong Kong, visit a particular out-of-the-way corner of a certain hotel, and ask — loudly — for directions to another part of the hotel. If all seemed well, the source would walk past holding a Rubik’s Cube."

A Rubik's Cube, now there is a really good way to remain nondescript. Or this bit of counter-surveillance expertise.

"He is deeply worried about being spied on. He lines the door of his hotel room with pillows to prevent eavesdropping. He puts a large red hood over his head and laptop when entering his passwords to prevent any hidden cameras from detecting them."

A red hood? Even the writer who is taking in all of this BS and peddling it to the public is making fun of you dude. Why do I get the feeling Ed also had a ninja outfit and throwing stars?

Whether or not Ed has any information that the government was doing illegal or even improper things is a completely separate discussion. The fact that Ed is a BS-peddling wannabe poseur is now established and ought to be taken into account when judging his words and actions.

UPDATE: Jonn Lilyea at This Aint Hell is also looking at the other things about Snowden that seem to have an air of barnyard ordure about them and had a pretty good idea the PNG wasn't in the Q course earlier this week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: attackmessenger; bilderberg; communism; crackdown; criminalnsa; edsnowden; f6; forces; google; harrasingemployees; illegalspying; lie; liesnsa; masscorruption; morewhistleblowers; nsa; nwo; obamacrimes; protect; protectwhistleblower; qgroup; snowden; snowdenlie; snowdenlies; special; specialcollection; specialforces; truth; whistleblower
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-144 next last
To: servo1969

The only question that needs to be answered right now is whether or not the NSA has been spying on every single American Citizen?

So far all indications are that the answer to that question is YES.

Also, if Snowden lie about his credentials and could still get a job monitoring every single American’s private e-mails, text messages, Face Book posts, Google searches.... Then God only knows how many terrorists, unfriendly governments and blackmailers have the same access.

Right now all I want to know is how much has the government been spying and how long it has been going on and whether John Roberts was blackmailed into approving Obamacare.


41 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog

LOL, ain’t that the truth. The military can’t even provide all vets with their DD-214 because of a fire a long time ago.


42 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:59 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
Okay.

Who gave the orders to stand down in Benghazi and where was 0 that entire night?

43 posted on 06/12/2013 2:19:29 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WayneS

“I don’t know. But if he’ll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he’ll lie about others.”

And I guess you’ve never lied about anything... I would guess he has a lot more guts and more honer than you ever did.

Maybe he could be lying about working for/with the NAS as well.


44 posted on 06/12/2013 2:19:36 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
From the Guardian piece:

In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. Invoking the same principles that he now cites to justify his leaks, he said: "I wanted to fight in the Iraq war because I felt like I had an obligation as a human being to help free people from oppression".

He did not say he was in the special forces. He said he begain a training program to join.
45 posted on 06/12/2013 2:19:56 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: miss marmelstein

Helping the regime and media to assassinate this man’s name thus redirecting attention away from the criminality of the regime is SOP. Sad to see freepers jumping in to help the enemies of we the people.


46 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Does that make the information he leaked any less valid or is this just an extension of the smear campaign of the Clinton administration?


47 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WayneS
I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

And I suppose you have never lied about anything?

48 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: WayneS
But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

If he has lied about what the government is doing, then why are they calling his actions treason instead of denying the veracity of his claims?

Besides, doesn't he have documents supporting his allegations?

49 posted on 06/12/2013 2:20:26 PM PDT by Bronzewound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: WayneS
I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

Do you automatically believe everything that any blogger on the Internet spews?

50 posted on 06/12/2013 2:21:05 PM PDT by Cementjungle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Maybe the PTB want this to become known, and are asking us if we are ok with what they want to do. Snowden is a patsy sent to ask us the question.

I suppose this is to soften us up, and to begin getting us used to the idea of total worldwide surveillance.

I predict nothing will happen. Same with any of these other scandals.


51 posted on 06/12/2013 2:22:05 PM PDT by ecomcon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WayneS

“I don’t know. But if he’ll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he’ll lie about others.”

Scooter Libby? Yea, they got him the same way. Problem is
pretty much everything he disclosed is true. The question is,
do and should the American people have the right to know
that their government IS data mining every aspect of their
life (public and private) for any purpose they choose?


52 posted on 06/12/2013 2:22:34 PM PDT by Slambat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

Sounds to me he just gave an overly broad or abbreviated explanation of what this cryptic X-Ray program was.


53 posted on 06/12/2013 2:22:46 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: WayneS

Big Obama spy government fan are we? This is how they operate. Remember Ken Starr? Linda Tripp? They attack the messenger, again and again and again...


54 posted on 06/12/2013 2:22:55 PM PDT by Luke21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: babygene

I bet by the end of the week we’ll know more about Snownden than we’re ever likely to know about Obama.


55 posted on 06/12/2013 2:23:04 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN

That the way I read it, must have been in jump school.


56 posted on 06/12/2013 2:23:26 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
He broke his legs while at Fort Benning. His intent was to enter the X-ray program...

Note it does not say what he was doing at Fort Benning when he broke his legs. Could he have been training to try out for SF? Doubtful as he should have know he did not qualify with just a GED.

My guess is he stretched the truth and the military spokes... "person" is dancing around it by saying, or actually not saying, what Snowden was doing when his legs were broken.

57 posted on 06/12/2013 2:23:59 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog

[Unless you’re Bill Clinton or John Kerry, in which case a mysterious fire breaks out in the warehouse.]

They did have a fire that got a bunch of records but the military was able to reconstruct them by tracking down duplicates from every command an individual had spent time at. This had to be labor intensive but at the time a lot of veterans were accusing the VA of burning the warehouse so they could cheat people out of their benefits.

And you’re right—a lot of “Vietnam” thespians used that fire to explain why their exploits, or even a record of their enlistment, couldn’t be documented.


58 posted on 06/12/2013 2:24:07 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Izzy Dunne
Thanx for the link to the original source. That is what makes the 'net extremely useful.

It's interesting that the FBI (H0lder) initiated the request.

59 posted on 06/12/2013 2:24:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN
That's the way I read it.....this article even says so: "In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. "

He never said he was in the Special Forces....and as far as the GED thing.....could be one of two things. His recruiter neglected to mention that requirement and/or he thought an exception could be made for his special skills. Who knows. People are picking apart little details that could be interpreted one way or another and saying....see...see he was lieing.

He wasn't lieing about PRISM and he wasn't lieing about the collection of Verizon phone call data.
60 posted on 06/12/2013 2:25:07 PM PDT by Girlene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-144 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson