Skip to comments.Coulter: If the GOP is this stupid, it deserves to die
Posted on 06/12/2013 6:42:51 PM PDT by markomalley
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Well she agrees with me that they are just stoopid rather than deliberately helping the rats.
I hate to say this but youre being naive if you think Amnesty (or whatever theyre gonna call it) isnt a done deal. Sorry for being the bearer of bad news.
I am not in denial but I plan on going down swinging. If the beltway GOP will not defend my constitutional rights they will not get my vote. Starting now. I am at peace with that decision after a lifetime of GOP plantation voting.
The latest amnesty buffoonery is actually making it easier for me. It’s one thing to be betrayed by bad policy like amnesty. It’s another thing entirely to carpet bombed with this willfully dishonest campaign about that bad policy.
Rubio & Ryan are making it so easy to leave the GOP. I guess that is their plan. They don’t want thinking conservatives. Well now it’s mutual. If I wanted to be associated with treasonous beltway trash like them I would have been a Dem.
Ann trying to get back some of her conservative creds, so she can sell more books and help push other libs in the next election.
Excellent analysis, Graewoulf!
I’ve decided I’m going to stop using the term “RINO”.
It implies that Republican = Conservative, so that if someone is Republican in name only, they are illegitimately attaching themselves to the party of conservatives. If there is one thing that has become abundantly clear its that Republican does not mean conservatives. In fact, it may well be that the true “RINO’S” are just the opposite, conservatives that, for the sake of getting elected, attach themselves to the GOP which seems to stand for “we want big government too, just not quite as big as the Democrats sometimes”.
It seems to me that a more appropriate designation would be Republican and either P or NP....Progressive or Non-Progressive.
The two arguments regarding the GOPs motives for supporting this are :
1) because they believe that this will help them in elections regarding Hispanics
and 2) That they were bought off by business (SJB main point)
There is truth to both of them.
On #1 Potential POTUS candidates are terrified of Hispanic backlash like Romney suffered, GOP House members are the least affected by that as hispanic districts are already Dem.
On #2 The Senate bill was reported many times to be a deal between the Chamber of Commerce and labor (big unions) by Senators themselves. So SJB is right too.
Senators worry about both depending on state specifics.
No need to disagree on their motives #1 vs #2.
last : Rubio is lying to us , no question about that.
And no, Republicans are not going along with this because they want to lose their own elections. That one is not worth debating. Its mainly #1 and/or #2.
Fat boy from NJ and the car salesman from MA are both big Shamnesty backers. She and Porky Pig Rove’s 15 min have expired and now we have freezer rot.
And no, Republicans are not going along with this because they want to lose their own elections. That one is not worth debating. Its mainly #1 and/or #2
Rubio & Ryan are making selfish personal political calculations. They are arsonists trying to shore up personal power bases to keep their gravy coming in while the GOP burns down. Then in 2020 or 2024 they will run for POTUS. None of the first team GOPe will run in 2016. They want nothing to do with engaging the Dems right now.
Given recent revelations about NSA, I'm not so sure about this anymore. Register those who aren't registered, vote for those that don't vote, if you get caught they won't object. I would think a larger number would turn out for the first, historic election than for re-election.
I agree completely. Ann is usually right about the issues - - she just has horrible taste in men. It will take a long, LONG time for her to shake her embarrassing, if brief, Pork Porkie infatuation, as well as her duplicitous spin in support of Mittens. I hope she has plenty of time, but I think she is going to give it a go.
Her columns are still worth reading.
No, but you can do what I did last November - - vote for conservatives in races that have a conservative on the ticket and don't vote in races that don't have a conservative on the ticket. (shrug) Easy.
Put an end to this stupid party and let the replacement arise from the ashes like a PHOENIX. SOON.
Coulter is making sense again which means she must be getting serviced regularly.
She has a few outliers of course (Christie, for example), but she's usually correct, and unafraid to challenge the GOP stupids.
Ann is our ally on the uber important worries of amnesty for illegal aliens and gun confiscation, and she better at summarizing complex situations than most (if not all) on Capitol Hill.
Ditto. Add in Rubio. Sad.
My love for Reagan grows every year - after dealing with wave after wave of GOP-e and RINO idiots.
My disappointment over Ted Cruz's POTUS eligibility grows in direct proportion to my disappointment with Rubio's immigration policy disclosures. :-(
She’s a Bipolar Pundit. She is either out of her mind in liberal fantasy or on her conservative meds. This bit of commentary is when she is at her best with all the facts at her fingertips.
Good work here Ann. But next time you feel a liberal episode about to be triggered, lock yourself in your room and force yourself to look at a photo of Michael Moron’s Butt Crack for about two hours until the episode passes; then take a shower.
Republicans? They are stuck on stupid. Always tilting at windmills instead of going after what really matters.... less government and more individual freedoms.
So it’s safe to conclude that the Republican Party will soon fall apart. What should conservatives do to adapt? Perhaps consider these options:
A.) Form a Third Party (But too costly, time-consuming and could take decades before and if we become a formidable political party)
B.) Join the Democrat Party and form the conservative wing. At least this would give Barry and Hildabeast a few headaches.
C.) Do a Karl Rove-in-reverse. Hire ourselves out as Democrat political operatives and sabotage all their schemes. If Karl Rove could single-handedly destroy the GOP, I’m sure there a few Freepers smart enough to do the same to the Democrat Party.
So what’s the best option?
I agree with you, but not with R buffoons (#1) that this will help them in elections apart from money from fat cats.
1. Don't let the crazies and sleazy become the face of the party.(Donald Trump, Todd Akin, Christine O'Donnell, et al.) Conversely, promote Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and other intelligent, dynamic pols as the face of the party.
2. Focus on individual liberties and limiting government in citizens lives.
3. Leave the states to figure out how to govern themselves. Cut the Federal gov and return local control.
TexGrill, as long as there are places in the Republican Party where people get together and talk about "legitimate rape", the GOP will be seen as the intrusive and loony party. Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock found receptive audiences in some GOP circles for their ideas. Until the loons are told to hit the road, boils like those two and Trump will continue to pop up.
Marco Rubio? Really? I understand what you say about Todd Akin, but supporting the Leftist Marco Rubio isn’t a good idea either. How come you never mentioned Sen. Ted Cruz as someone to endorse?
Only a liberal would come up with such a lousy list of candidates. Pay no mind.
The problem at its core, is the stupidity of conservatives who continue to nominate and vote for the stupid Republicans.
If conservatives fall for the McCains, Bushes, and Romneys year after year what is going to magically make them change if you repackage the same voters under a different label?
Coulter’s candidate lost not because of little old Black ladies, but because Romney sucked as a condidate and couldn’t excite the conservative base.
...hate to break it to you and to your cohorts, but any candidate who would excite you would’ve garnered 191 EV’s, compared to Romney’s 206, probably losing North Carolina in the process...what makes you think otherwise? Who would’ve exceeded that amount? Palin? Gingrich?
...Republicans weren’t going to win in 2012 in any scenario, and Romney did as well, with good showings in Ohio and Florida, as could be expected...conservative voters are already the most reliable poll goers, and thinking some mythical ultra conservative candidate is going to excite millions of additional conservative voters (which is precisely what would’ve been required) is delusional...
Anyone notice Chris Wallace never looks soulful while asking dems what they'll do about NOT have the white male vote, or the gun owners vote, or the traditional Christian vote. NEVER. The GOP is so stupid they listen to their enemies (dems) give them advice.
If the GOP wants to survive they need to make strong appeals to the people who support them...
Hate to break it to you but Romney would have back-benched the conservative movement whereas Obama unites and strengthens it by providing a target-rich environment.
It’s called the give and sway of the electorate of independents that decides the elections. Just look at the South once a bastion of Democrat politics now a swamp to the progressive minded.
To win a war one must first defeat the opposition within before focusing on the enemy outside. The US Army Brass during WWII spent more time fighting each other politically in the first two years of that war than they did focusing on the enemy. Same thing under Lincoln with the Army of the Potomac under McClellan.
And of course the same pattern with Rockefeller Republicans against Ronald Reagan.
Romney, Rove, Bush Family, etc. need to step aside....soon they will have no choice.
yea I notice and it drives me nuts.
Republicans take notice of the obama Govt, and the other elitist types to save their own seats, they don’t want to rick the boat because they might lose their seat and so they go along with immigrations, spying etc
Seeing republicans like King this morning being questioned and trying to tell us that spying on us has saved maybe thousands of lives and yet can’t give any details or we stopped the car bomb attack and then when told it was not because of the spying he just said he disagrees and then moved on.
The day I found that out was the day she was dead to me.
My guess: The GOPe have performed this political calculus and determined there are more votes to be had by going after amnesty and losing yours (mine and others) and gaining hispanics than the reverse.
Think about it from their perspective. For the most part (99% of them) all they care about is getting elected. That means votes. By and large, they’ll do anything, say anything to do that.
If they’re ignoring you and I but pandering to the hispanics by going for amnesty, that’s why.
“...we need a party that will fight for freedom on all issues, not just fiscal.”
I think that’s the Libertarian Party.
” But rich businessmen dont care. Big Republican donors and their campaign consultants just want to make money. They dont care about Hispanics, and they certainly dont care what happens to the country. If the country is hurt, I dont care, as long as I am doing better! This is the very definition of treason.”
Also defines Karl Rove, their front man.
Not that anyone cares but I am no longer a republican and will not support a republican for office EVER again, they do not seem to understand the truth.
” This rings. Pretty good ridicule. “
Yeah, but most on this thread just want attack Ann(who deserves it most of the time). This is a good explanation of Republican suicide (amnesty).
” Well she agrees with me that they are just stoopid rather than deliberately helping the rats.”
Some are deliberately helping the rats though.(Rubio,McCain)
There are lies, damm lies, and statistics which Annie cites an awful lot of here. Never trust the GOPe which Annie is s card carrying member. The truth is the Repuglican party is DOA, and all the RINOs killed it. Screw Rove, Juan McLame, Roodey Mc Romney, Hannity the cheerleader, and all the rest of the enablers.
The only hope for this country is for the American people to get up off the couch and take her back by the three boxes soap, ballot, and cartridge.
Could 2/3 of the states get together to nullify the immigration bill should it be passed? I don’t know if the Constitution allows for this?
Romney would have back-benched the conservative movement whereas Obama unites and strengthens it by providing a target-rich environment.
...I see...so it’s smart politics to run a sure loser so if your opponent happens to be a goofball, you can score a few points...ok...I’m certain that every person in the country who voted Romney had exactly that calculus in mind...
Its called the give and sway of the electorate of independents that decides the elections.
...is that not treasonous talk here on FR? Hasn’t none other than Rush Limbaugh himself condemned the chasing of independent voters as vacuous and self defeating? Not saying your comment is untrue...just that it is a curiosity here in FR land...
Just look at the South once a bastion of Democrat politics now a swamp to the progressive minded.
...the South didn’t give and sway all that much...they voted as a block because of the long history of Democrat segregation...in the ‘60’s the Dem party policy plank changed, and became anathema to the Southern voter, and Pubs win by default...
Ted Cruz. Fine. Just fuck all those data mining anti-liberty federalists that are collecting data on all of us.......no one needs to be intercepting anything I send to anyone.
> “...I see...so its smart politics to run a sure loser so if your opponent happens to be a goofball, you can score a few points...ok...Im certain that every person in the country who voted Romney had exactly that calculus in mind...”
You’re sure ***every person***? The GOPe could nominate a mannequin and still garner a substantial percentage of the vote.
Romney is a liberal and a liar who takes a R after his political persona. He would have taken the GOP for liberals just as a Snowe or a Spector. He would still have given us gay marriage, mandatory federally legislated healthcare, liberal judges, NSA monitoring all Americans and on and on. As Soros said there’s not much difference between Obama and Romney.
> “...is that not treasonous talk here on FR? Hasnt none other than Rush Limbaugh himself condemned the chasing of independent voters as vacuous and self defeating? Not saying your comment is untrue...just that it is a curiosity here in FR land...”
We don’t chase the independents, we attract them. Because without them we come to a stalement at best with the democrats.
Your choice of words “FR land” is revealing. Conservatives outnumber others and are growing. You are not happy with that.
> “...the South didnt give and sway all that much...they voted as a block because of the long history of Democrat segregation...in the 60s the Dem party policy plank changed, and became anathema to the Southern voter, and Pubs win by default...”
Southerners vote republican by ***default***? That’s a laugh! I’m sure a lot of southerners would have something to say about that.