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Attorney for Trayvon Martin family says teen not the one on trial
Fox News / The Associated Press ^ | June 12, 2013 | Serafin Gomez

Posted on 06/12/2013 8:03:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Attorneys quickened the pace in jury selection Wednesday in the George Zimmerman trial, as a lawyer for the family of Trayvon Martin stressed the teenager Zimmerman is accused of murdering was not the one on trial.

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Juror B-35, a middle-aged black man who owns vending machines, described protests last year over Martin's shooting as "saber-rattling." He wondered why there weren't protests over the fatal shootings of other African-American men in Sanford, the Orlando suburb where Martin was killed in February 2012. He also said he believed Zimmerman deserved his day in court.

"I think they politicized it and made it a racial issue, and I didn't like that," said Juror "B-35. "I wasn't agreeing with the racial connotation."(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benjamincrump; conspiracy; florida; railroaded; selfdefense; traydmark; trayvon; zimmerman

1 posted on 06/12/2013 8:03:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This “trial” is turning out to be the farce everyone knew that it would be.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 8:06:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"as a lawyer for the family of Trayvon Martin stressed the teenager Zimmerman is accused of murdering was not the one on trial."

Well...DUH....that's because the perp is DEAD.

If he was alive, he SHOULD be the one who is on trial.

3 posted on 06/12/2013 8:07:05 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The claim is self defense.The defendant's injuries combined with Martin's lack of injuries (apart from the GSW) very,very,*very* strongly supports the defendant's claims.There's strong evidence to suggest that the deceased was a filthy punk...or at least a filthy punk in the making.There's no such evidence to suggest a similarly shady past for the defendant.You pigs just can't stand the fact that that punk very probably got what he deserved.

Is that clear enough for ya,you filthy lawyer?

4 posted on 06/12/2013 8:10:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: traditional1

“If he was alive, he SHOULD be the one who is on trial.”

No worries. The little puke was judged in the afterlife and the reward is someplace “warm”.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 8:10:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the defendant is asserting self defense then the victim is also on trial.


6 posted on 06/12/2013 8:11:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Martin is on trial. The prosecution needs to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Martin did not act so as to place Zimmerman in reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. So Martin’s acts are on trial.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 8:13:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: max americana
"The little puke was judged in the afterlife and the reward is someplace “warm”

I don't know all the Facts of the Case, but, this is a lynching of George Zimmerman in placating the inner-city tribal parasites, and Zimmerman incarcerated would be surrounded by a "Disproportionate Number of Minorities" (in DOJ/Civil Rights Dept. terminology).

He would not survive imprisonment with former hoodie-wearers......

8 posted on 06/12/2013 8:16:24 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what reasonable doubt for the defendent is, putting the plaintif on trial.

Funny how these black people who always wanted reasonable doubt for themselves and OJ Simpson now want to take it away in this case.

Minds of tyrants: only if I do it.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:46 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: max americana

Indeed, choose content, get content. They want pop sex, they get with it pop suffering. You cannot have flesh without flesh problems and tweak it like butchers at that. MAny blacks in America are like waking into a bad drug withdrawal. Pain will be what remains.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 8:24:37 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: P-Marlowe

P-Marlowe ~:” When the defendant is asserting self defense then the victim is also on trial.”

That’s true !
Especially since Travon already had stolen goods in his possession while in school. Too bad the goods weren’t linked to him by the police.
Imagine , it took a reporter to link the stolen goods to Travon, and they were found in his backpack.
Principal LEO concepts : motive , opportunity , timeing , prior history, ability , tools/property , etc.

Too bad the judge wouldn’t let prior MMA and fight club enter into court depositions/statements .
Nor the photo of the hand gun.
Incidently , after the shooting , I understand that the number of burglaries fell off dramaticly.
Where there is smoke ,..there generally is a fire !


12 posted on 06/12/2013 8:24:51 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I think they politicized it and made it a racial issue, and I didn't like that," said Juror "B-35. "I wasn't agreeing with the racial connotation."(continued)

Wow. I didn't expect to read that being said by a "middle-aged black man". Maybe suburban blacks are seeing the race card is hindering them being judged by their character since it makes everything about race.

13 posted on 06/12/2013 8:26:30 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: JudgemAll

Exactly right: “minds of tyrants,” wish I had thought of that expression


14 posted on 06/12/2013 8:30:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Attorney for Trayvon Martin family says teen not the one on trial

Yes, he pretty much is. It is necessary to know if he jumped Zimmerman.

That is what the whole case pretty much hangs on. And so it is necessary to know if he had a habit of jumping people and attempting to beat the tar out of them.

15 posted on 06/12/2013 8:32:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B-35 seems to have a brain; no doubt that’s sufficient cause for the Prosecution to seek his dismissal.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 8:33:57 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

the stolen goods.....were they ever traced back to the proper owner?......


17 posted on 06/12/2013 8:40:50 PM PDT by cherry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought I heard the family say that “Zimmerman, the one who murdered Trayvon”...on my local news tonight.

No “allegedly murdered”, no “thought to have murdered”...

just “murdered”.


18 posted on 06/12/2013 8:49:16 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It's a railroad trainwreck of Just-us.


19 posted on 06/12/2013 8:57:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
"..after the shooting , I understand that the number of burglaries fell off dramaticly.."

Could be a set of multiple reasons there.

20 posted on 06/12/2013 8:59:28 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: cherry

cherry ~ the stolen goods.....were they ever traced back to the proper owner?......

Someone on this board said that some of the goods were returned to the rightful owner.
But there is no confirmation of that ..


21 posted on 06/12/2013 9:03:29 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Would be a gem if one of the possible jurors would say that they heard that Travon had stolen goods in his possession while in school.
22 posted on 06/12/2013 9:13:16 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: traditional1
Well...DUH....that's because the perp is DEAD.

If he is dead, why does he have a lawyer at Jury selection?

23 posted on 06/12/2013 9:21:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: JudgemAll

I heard his dad said that he trusts that a fair trial will be obtained with the jurors being picked. Fair meaning they come back with a guilty verdict. If not (which is of course the correct verdict) it will be because the jury was bias or racist or something.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 9:27:54 PM PDT by rktman
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To: Bronzy

Bronzy ~:” Would be a gem if one of the possible jurors would say that they heard that Travon had stolen goods in his possession while in school. “

True !
But since the police didn’t follow it up , it becomes a moot point.
Nevertheless , the issue of possession of stolen property was discovered by a reporter who followed up the backpack taken from Trayvon at school.
The property remained in the police property clerks office, so the ‘chain of evidence’ hadn’t been broken.
As I recall , the judge wouldn’t allow the backpack nor property into the trial as it wasn’t present at the timne of the assault.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 9:29:34 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: Rembrandt

How long until B-35 gets “outed” and his life and his family are threatened?


26 posted on 06/12/2013 9:54:48 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Attorney for Trayvon Martin family says teen not the one on trial

Au contraire! Trayvon is and should be on trial. He brought his own death on himself!

27 posted on 06/12/2013 10:01:52 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: traditional1

If “No Limit (You-know-what)” was still alive, Zimmerman would be dead (as the Skittles thug was in the process of killing him).


28 posted on 06/12/2013 10:32:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon should be on trial for attempted murder, but he already got the death sentence for it.


29 posted on 06/12/2013 10:34:45 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: itsahoot

Good question ... This is a criminal trial, not civil .... Yet.


30 posted on 06/13/2013 1:46:23 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: itsahoot
"If he is dead, why does he have a lawyer at Jury selection?"

As in ALL things; FOLLOW THE MONEY.

This farce of a Show Trial, is to cater to Blacks to show that they are Protected, even when they are thugs, malcontents, and living off others (whitey). It has NOTHING to do with Justice (already put $100's of thousands in the parents pockets, when some ambulance-chaser extorted a Settlement from the Development Owners, to avoid having black mobs burn it to the ground like in LA after the Rodney King circus).

NO BLACKS were ever Prosecuted when they burned down that neighborhood, or beat up Koreans and Whites.....Reginald Denny got hammered and went to Court for a mock trial, and wound up being told to just forget about it and go home.

Few whites have EVER been successful in Racism cases against Blacks, and, there are no Deep Pockets to empty in the Black Community.

31 posted on 06/13/2013 4:25:59 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I beg to differ. The issue is self defense. Trayvon is very much on trial.


32 posted on 06/13/2013 4:56:33 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: traditional1

Interesting that the trial is starting now right on time for Riot Season.

I think that the current administration is trying to tear the country apart and this is the lever.

It also will take attention away from the more serious issues : like the IRS, the NSA, the lousy economy,

This is just diversion,


33 posted on 06/13/2013 4:59:07 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: rktman

Indeed, just like double jeopardy was ignored in the ROdney King trial.


34 posted on 06/13/2013 6:05:20 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Do you happen to have a source for the info you just stated? Would you mind sharing?


35 posted on 06/13/2013 8:54:55 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone needs to put a sock in Crumpets and Crew.


36 posted on 06/13/2013 12:17:13 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: DrewsMum

Which information ?

The reporter who connected the paperwork about the jewelry in the backpack was , as I recall , from a newspaper in Miami. This backtrack by the reporter occurred several months after the assault incident .
The police had recieved the backpack (including a bag of jewelry) after school security apprehended Travon when he had marijuana in his possession on school grounds .
There would have been a CR ( Crime Report number) associated with that apprehension by school security .
There was no known police follow up on the backpack as it preceeded the assault by several months .
Additional information on this issue also included the fact that the Police Chief tried to minimize notariety of criminal issues arising at the school.
The reporter took the CR to the police property clerk which identified the backpack as belonging to Travon and the original apprehension on school grounds .
I beleive all the information is contained in FreeRepblic archives , although I don’t recall the source , nor had I made copies for futrue consideration .


37 posted on 06/13/2013 2:53:35 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Ok, thank you for that info.


38 posted on 06/14/2013 7:09:51 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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