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Did Potential Zimmerman Juror Lie to Court?
Yahoo (ABCNews) ^ | 6/13/2013 | Elicia Dover

Posted on 06/12/2013 11:56:59 PM PDT by South40

A potential juror at the George Zimmerman trial who told the court he had little knowledge of the case apparently indicated otherwise on Facebook.

"I CAN tell you THIS. 'Justice'…IS Coming," the juror appeared to write of the Zimmerman case on the Facebook page for the "Coffee Party Progressives," a page with which he was confronted in Judge Debra Nelson's courtroom.

The potential juror, assigned the number E7, who described himself as an "underemployed" musician and painter, told the court that he did not have a lot of knowledge about the case when it first happened.

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A "progressive" would lie? Say it ain't so!
1 posted on 06/12/2013 11:56:59 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

That’s why the political left like Mohammadans so much. Their “religion” says it’s OK to lie.


2 posted on 06/13/2013 12:07:10 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: South40
Jerry P. Counelis tried to.

Good lawyers run a full investigation of every potential juror and liars are likely to be caught.

3 posted on 06/13/2013 12:09:18 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: South40
Luckily this idiot will be weeded out and dismissed due to his online comments. The danger is other potential jurors who are dumb/leftist enough to have made up their minds to convict, yet smart enough to keep that to themselves.

Zimmerman is in serious danger of being convicted. Anything other than a full acquittal will be headed for appellate court, and the presiding judge may have already made some evidentiary rulings which are problematic.

4 posted on 06/13/2013 12:09:37 AM PDT by Cap74 (You can disagree with me. You can attack me. Do not lie to me.)
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To: South40

What, I am stunned, stunned..you mean progressive pricks lie..no cant be/sarc
Progressive is short for Communist which is what these punks are..these same punks, if confronted by Trayvon Martin in a dark alley, would have shot him too, oh wait I forgot, progressives don’t believe in guns..instead they would have thrown a shoe at him


5 posted on 06/13/2013 12:15:21 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: South40

“Underemployed musician and painter”

In other words, a low information, Obama voting, entitlement grubbing slacker.


6 posted on 06/13/2013 12:21:40 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Sarah Barracuda

What? It’s Plick! Plick! You puckin Plick! Plick!


7 posted on 06/13/2013 12:34:00 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: South40

Well, the crazy lefties did set up an org called the coffee party which was supposed to fight the tea party.

It was a flop.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 1:58:26 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: South40

Guaranteed if this guy was posting on CTR or other anti - lynching sites....this judge and Ben Crump would have had that dude swinging from a noose

Absolutely disturbing with this Black Ku Klux Klan lynching of Zimmerman in my county


9 posted on 06/13/2013 2:00:55 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: South40

He’s a broken-nosed violent piece of work. Looks as if he’s got a record of smacking his girlfriend.

Pics on an earlier post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3030594/posts


10 posted on 06/13/2013 3:23:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Cap74
"Zimmerman is in serious danger of being convicted."

Unfortunately its already a given. Just to keep Obama's people from burning and murdering. It will most likely be a complete travesty.

11 posted on 06/13/2013 3:56:51 AM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: South40

I would lie to get on that jury and then do all that I can so that Zimmerman walks.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 4:06:59 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Cap74
Luckily this idiot will be weeded out and dismissed due to his online comments. The danger is other potential jurors who are dumb/leftist enough to have made up their minds to convict, yet smart enough to keep that to themselves.

If this guy were to be made, publicly, an example of - held in contempt of court and sent for a 30 to 45 -day stay in the state pen - it would be a heck of deterrent to anyone else trying the same stunt.

My understanding is that a potential juror can be held in contempt for saying things in order to get out of jury duty. Can't the same happen for people trying to get ONTO a jury?
13 posted on 06/13/2013 4:08:23 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: fieldmarshaldj
a person resembling E7 wrote on March 21, 2012, the same date as on the court record, an inflammatory comment in response to a posting about the case touting the site www.justicefortrayvonmartin.com. Besides vowing that justice was coming, the Facebook comment apparently by the prospective juror alleged a conspiracy involving Zimmerman and local police. "With the noise WE made…it couldn't be covered up," the commenter said. "I only hope the Feds go farther than just THIS case in investigating This 'Police Force.’…”

That comment subsequently vanished from the Facebook thread.

There seems to be no end to the chicanery which could be hidden by political activism in the management of Facebook . . .
It certainly is interesting, in general, that with the www everyone has the ability to broadcast their opinions - and we are only too willing to do so. Nay, we are eager to do so - but when a crunch comes, that doesn’t leave much wiggle room. If any Freeper - let alone a Conservative Tree House Treeper - were called for jury duty, the prosecution would have a very strong handle on who it was talking to, or about to a judge. The irony is that, theoretically, the court is looking for people who will accord the presumption of innocence to the defendant - and that, most any FReeper would be likely to do. The only appropriate questions are whether the potential juror has an open mind in addition to the ability to accord the defendant the presumption of innocence. And we know that the jurors will hear firsthand rather than over the internet, and from the participants themselves rather than from third parties, be they never so expert-sounding and dispassionate-sounding.

Problem (for the defense) is, we come so close to knowing that the prosecution doesn’t have any better case than Nifong did against the Duke Lacrosse team, and that the defense can come closer to proving innocence than the prosecution can come to proving guilt, that the prosecution would do anything it could to keep one of us off the jury. The quote above illustrates how hopelessly contaminated any possible jury is likely to be. Nobody doesn’t know about the case, and nobody doesn’t have a preconception of what the evidence will show. Emphatically including the POTUS.


14 posted on 06/13/2013 4:14:35 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: South40

very few people tell the truth, unfortunately

they try to change it to benefit themselves


15 posted on 06/13/2013 4:47:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BobL
I would lie to get on that jury and then do all that I can so that Zimmerman walks.
You wouldn’t succeed in lying your way on; your opinion is too deeply felt. And even if you did, you would be living in the neighborhood where all those people who after Zimmerman’s hide would be after yours if you did what you say. Would you actually want that?
Zimmerman has a suit pending against NBC for maliciously broadcasting an edited version of Zimmerman’s conversation with the police dispatcher. The editing put in Zimmerman’s mouth an answer to one question which was actually voiced in answer to an entirely different question; it is an open-and-shut case of defamation. It may have been a tactical necessity for the Zimmerman legal team to delay that case until after the criminal case, but on the merits it is somewhere between sad and disastrous to do so IMHO. First because the legal team need the money, and second because what NBC did was a tort irrespective not only of the verdict of the jury in the criminal case, even of the actual guilt of Zimmerman in the abstract, assuming the two may be different. And NBC deserves to lose - big.

Not only does NBC deserve to lose, but the rest of journalism deserves to lose, too. You can’t sue “the rest of journalism,” but you might sue “the Associated Press and its members individually” - and that would come to pretty much the same thing. All of them have not only damaged Zimmerman, who wouldn’t even be on trial if he hadn’t been first convicted in the papers and on the TV news, they have damaged the public interest generally by making a fair trial problematic.

Let’s face it, the verdict of this trial will be controversial, because although everyone “knows” how it should come out, vast numbers of people “know” contradictory things. It seems exceedingly unlikely that that many people will change their mind. If Zimmerman is acquitted, journalism owes Zimmerman such a huge apology that you can be sure that none will be forthcoming. And if Zimmerman is convicted, in a trial that would not even have occurred if journalism had been honest . . .


16 posted on 06/13/2013 4:57:52 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: yldstrk

Both times I was on jury duty, once the case was given to us for deliberation, the first thing I did was educate the jury on jury nullification. ;-)


17 posted on 06/13/2013 5:01:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Cap74

There is so little evidence to support any action against zimmerman that I think it would be impossible to convict him of involuntary manslaughter.

And in the day of the internet and the courtroom as “fishbowl”, kangaroo courts for high profile cases are very difficult to pull off.

We here about all those innocent black men being convicted of raping white girls back 70 years ago and want to apply the concept to this case. But let me ask you, if those cases had the national spotlight during the trial, even without the internet, do you think they would have resulted in convictions?

I don’t.

That kind of corruption only works well in the dark. You keep it local at all costs. That foundational principle is already blown out of the water in this case. It will be virtually impossible to run an overtly unfair trial in the current political/technological environemnt, and that is what it would take to even come close to getting a conviction here.

I could be wrong, but that’s my opinion, for what it’s worth.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 5:06:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
Both times I was on jury duty, once the case was given to us for deliberation, the first thing I did was educate the jury on jury nullification. ;-)

That is a good deed - any time an unconstitutional law is used for prosecution, the law needs to be nullified by the jury.

19 posted on 06/13/2013 5:09:20 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Cap74

“Luckily this idiot will be weeded out and dismissed due to his online comments.”

Why wouldn’t he get time for perjury? Ooops—I forgot who the judge is favoring in the outcome. I bet she’ll count his dismissal against the defense instead.


20 posted on 06/13/2013 5:12:43 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Pollster1

I break down rules to “foundational principles”. Basically, what I tell the jurors is that the only question the judge *may* ask you after the verdict is read is if it is your personal verdict. This means that you can side with the prosecution simply because the defendant looks like someone you don’t like. Not that I would consider it the right thing to do. Nevertheless, you have that right.

The only thing you CAN’T do is base your personal verdict on information about the event that you told the court you didn’t have (e.g. the defendant beat you up in jr high but you claimed to not know him.)


21 posted on 06/13/2013 5:17:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: South40

There is little to no chance of acquittal, regardless of evidence. The best we can hope for is a hung jury.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 5:28:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

You’re probably right. The first thing they’ll notice is my skin color. The second thing they’ll notice is that I’m not on welfare...


23 posted on 06/13/2013 5:46:14 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: BobL

The third is that you speak proper English.


24 posted on 06/13/2013 11:18:16 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

If you dress respectfully for the court (you know, nice slacks, tucked in collared shirt, maybe a suit coat) you get kicked off right away.


25 posted on 06/13/2013 11:20:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: South40

So glad they caught him. He committed perjury!


26 posted on 06/13/2013 7:02:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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