Skip to comments.Envoy to Pope Francis: Declaring Islam ‘Peaceful’ a Contingency for Restoring Interfaith Ties
Posted on 06/13/2013 4:53:30 AM PDT by SJackson
Al-Azhar Envoy to Pope Francis: Declaring Islam Peaceful a Contingency for Restoring Interfaith Ties
JNS.org - An envoy from Egypts Al-Azhar University, one of the highest centers of learning in the Islamic world, has called on Pope Francis to declare Islam as a peaceful religion in order to restore ties between the worlds two largest faiths.
The problems that we had were not with the Vatican but with the former pope. Now the doors of Al-Azhar are open, Mahmoud Abdel Gawad, diplomatic envoy to the grand imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed al-Tayyeb, told the Cairo-based Italian daily Il Messaggero in a report cited by AFP.
Francis is a new pope. We are expecting a step forward from him. If in one of his addresses he were to declare that Islam is a peaceful religion, that Muslims are not looking for war or violence, that would be progress in itself, he said.
But Gawad ruled out any dialogue that would include Jewish leaders, saying during the interview that Al-Azhar will not take part in any meeting with Israelis.
Under Pope Benedict, the Catholic Church had strained relations with the Muslim world over comments Benedict made about the Prophet Mohammed in 2006. Additionally, both Benedict and Francis have been critical of Muslim treatment of Christian minorities in the Middle East.
Declaring it peaceful doesn’t make it so...
islam, religion of devil worshippers, is NOT peaceful and declaring it so will not make it so
Moment of truth here...
It’s easy to misunderstand the headline.
It was the MUSLIM representative ASKING the Pope to make the declaration, as the “Contingency for Restoring Interfaith Ties,”.
The Pope has NOT responded.
Don’t lighten up, Francis.
Also, keep in mind, whatever the Pope’s response, he is concerned for the safety of all Christians living in Muslim countries.
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“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
— Pope Benedict XVI quoting Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos.
We agree,peaceful as an evening in springtime!
Understood. Comments are “pre-emptive”...
Muslims have been at war with us infidels for 1400 years. Saying they are peaceful sounds nice and PC but it can get you killed in the real world
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Agreed. Thanks for pointing it out.
I'm not Catholic, but I have a higher opinion of him than to pre-defend him for being wishy-washy - he's been a gem so far.
The Vatican needs to be a nuclear power.
FREAKING BRILLIANT! Love it!
It really is. My biggest fear here is that if Francis either doesn't respond (most likely) or responds that Islam is not in-line with Catholicism/Christianity, we're going to see bombings in Vatican City and assassination attempts.
These goat-humping, inbred pederasts would rather blow themselves up to make a point than have any real, substantive dialog. I'm tired of the world being afraid of these neanderthals.
It will come to that. It will have to before the west revisits the Crusades.
We cannot coexist with people that want us dead. Period.
Why on earth would the Church desire “Interfaith Ties” with Islam? Do Michael and Gabriel hold regular conferences with Lucifer to work out how they can share religious space>
“Muslims have been at war with us infidels for 1400 years.”
11 And the angel also said, You are now pregnant and will give birth to a son. You are to name him Ishmael (which means God hears), for the Lord has heard your cry of distress.
12 This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.
The lecture includes this quote from Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus (an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and the truth of both) ...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
The theme, concept and violence advocated in the name of jihad is anything BUT peaceful ...
The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God's nature. The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: "For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident. But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality." Here Khoury quotes a work of the noted French Islamist R. Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God's will, we would even have to practice idolatry.
In other words, just like Satan did in the garden of Eden, Islam proclaims that God does not mean what He says.
Also, who designates anyone to speak for Islam; it’s not as though there is an Islamic “pope” or any other form of ultimate authority.
Declaring Islam a peaceful religion would be a lie.Its something that this Pope should Not do.
The believers in that faith have to prove its peaceful.Not the Catholic Church.
I can declare that my aunt has b***s, but that doesn’t make her my uncle.
seems to me Islam is to Peace what orgasm is to rape.If someone is choked to the point of fearing for their life unless they recite Islamic verse-such submission may bring a temporary peace. But when the bad guy comes back and does it again—and again and is given the same response— can’t call that a just peace. Any more than I could call an orgasm during a rape/sodomy good sex.
good reply I can only add the spawn of Ishmael have been at war with “every man” since then. If they do not have any non Muslim to fight they fight each other just because that is the way of the beast.
Yeah. I found it interesting they’re still so openly offended. When I think about it I remember Pope Benedict’s commentary, accurate. I’m sure we had threads. But not that big a deal.
Yes, that’s it.