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A 'shocking' 360 homes 'complete losses' as fight resumes in Black Forest fire (Colorado)
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | June 13, 2013 | Gazette staff

Posted on 06/13/2013 9:26:09 AM PDT by CedarDave

El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa says at least 360 homes are complete losses -- numbers he calls "shocking" -- and another 14 are damaged as firefighters prepare to face another "red flag" day fighting the Black Forest fire.

The destruction of homes ranks the Black Forest fire as the worst wildfire in Colorado history, surpassing the 347 homes destroyed by the Waldo Canyon fire last June in the Mountain Shadows neighborhood of Colorado Springs.

It also ranks atop the list for most forced evacuations. Maketa said 38,000 people have been forced from their homes by the Black Forest fire, again exceeding the 32,000 evacuated from Colorado Springs during the Waldo Canyon fire.

Maketa has no update on a missing person report filed Wednesday. Attempts to investigate the report are being hampered by intense fire.

"I have not heard of a report of injuries and no information on fatalities at this time," Maketa said.

As for today, the fire remains completely out of control and likely will as long as winds gusting to 40 mph whip it every direction, he said.

"We're not at a point where we can declare containment," Maketa said.

He said the prospect of winds in the 30 mph range with gusts to 35 mph today make prospects for containment doubtful, he said.

The goal today will be to stop its spread to the west and northwest where affluent Colorado Springs neighborhoods and the communities of Woodmoor and Monument sit.

"Those are going to be the priorities," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


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LIVE UPDATES: A 'shocking' 360 homes 'complete losses' as fight resumes in Black Forest fire north of Colorado

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1 posted on 06/13/2013 9:26:09 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

If you had less than an hour to get all of your irreplaceable possessions loaded up and out of the house, what would you take? Photographs, guns, ammo, computers, personal documents. What else?


2 posted on 06/13/2013 9:29:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Guns and my motorcycles.


3 posted on 06/13/2013 9:31:20 AM PDT by refermech
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Guns and ammo because you’d be fighting the insurance company over them. Unless you list them separately (and pay), they will deny the claim.


4 posted on 06/13/2013 9:35:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Life is always better with clean underwear ans socks. Prescription medicine. The kids.


5 posted on 06/13/2013 9:36:10 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Pets!

From an earlier link:

10:40 p.m. The Elbert County Sheriff's Office reports a Noah's Ark at their fairgrounds.

"Elbert County Fairgrounds remains open with space for evacuees and animals. Total count of animals currently at the Fairgrounds is as follows: 28 chickens; 216 horses, 5 drafts/14 foals; 5 cows, 2 calves; 27 Alpacas; 14 dogs; 25 cats; 22 goats; 1 ducks; 4 burros; 2 guinea pigs; 3 sheep; 19 miniature horses; 19 mules; 8 lamas; 3 stallions; 1 yak."

http://gazette.com/live-updates-black-forest-fire-near-colorado-springs-rages-toward-douglas-elbert-counties/article/1502210

As of Wednesday night there were also 833 evacuated residents at the Elbert County Fairgrounds.

6 posted on 06/13/2013 9:37:25 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My daughters baby blanket, favorite doll, meds, and our picture’s negatives, important paper box (titles, will, insurance information etc), a keepsake my motherIL gave to my husband before she died, and a necklace my Mom gave me....then I walked out the door.
It is amazing when you stand in the living room looking at all the stuff and realize nothing really matters if your family is safe.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 9:38:49 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: CedarDave

Local live TV coverage:

http://www.koaa.com/home/


8 posted on 06/13/2013 9:43:34 AM PDT by CedarDave
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chickenpoophead said a few days ago i wnated to establish some colorado owned fire bombers but didn't have the money. maybe if he took all the money he gives to ILLEGAL CRIMINALS instead of colorado citizens and LEGAL immigrants he would have the money.
9 posted on 06/13/2013 9:48:45 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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If Gov. Chicken****er had told the enviro whacko wilderness types to go away, and instituted reasoned forest management practices, the fuel load would be far less.

Environmentalism is a socio-political movement with a flavor of science. Forestry is a science. Differences are important.

Oh, make sure the ‘forestry’ based management plan is not infected with “enviro” or “wilderness” premises. Otherwise, it is just another version of environmentalism.


10 posted on 06/13/2013 9:54:23 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

pets would be at the head of the list


11 posted on 06/13/2013 9:57:52 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: CedarDave

Wonder how much dead trees and underbrush were there to keep the fires going so hot.

It used to be that forests had dead timber cleared out but then the enviros threw a snit so it was stopped in some areas.

If this was the case, wonder how many of the former home owners feel about making the enviros happy.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 9:59:03 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I would get my cats into their carriers and by that time it would be too late. If there was more time I would grab the jewelry.
13 posted on 06/13/2013 10:01:21 AM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE MAKE MULCH OUT OF THE EVIL THAT HAS TAKEN OVER OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: GladesGuru

What you say is true, but here the fire started in forest areas where homes have been built. You have homes constructed in and under pines 100 to 200 feet high. In areas surrounding the homes you have spindly pine thickets that have not been thinned, mostly the responsibility of the landowner. Combined with forest litter, drought conditions, drying winds and high temperatures, it was literally a tinderbox awaiting ignition.


14 posted on 06/13/2013 10:02:37 AM PDT by CedarDave
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As one of the evacuated, I am sure this fire will get much worse, before all is said and done. If the winds pick up today like yesterday easily another 50 homes, if the wind blows west and jumps CO83 the numbers will be staggering.


15 posted on 06/13/2013 10:10:37 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: CedarDave
How much beetle killed ponderosa pine and lodge pole pine are in this area?

From what I understand, this was the issue last year.

16 posted on 06/13/2013 10:11:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963; DaveyB
How much beetle killed ponderosa pine and lodge pole pine are in this area? From what I understand, this was the issue last year.

Good question. DaveyB, you know?

17 posted on 06/13/2013 10:16:14 AM PDT by CedarDave
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El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa also stated there are 79 homes they haven’t been able to check on and don’t know their status because of the intensity of the fire.

Also, it’s 0% contained.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 10:16:35 AM PDT by Balata (*)We came unarmed, last time! (*)Liberals, where's the separation of church and state with Islam?(*)
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To: CedarDave

I remember last year seeing pictures of a whole lot of the West decimated by the pine beetle turning whole forests brown. This was bound to happen.

360 homes is a lot of homes particularly in rural areas.


19 posted on 06/13/2013 10:20:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DaveyB

Pre-evacuation ordered for GlenEagle area.


20 posted on 06/13/2013 10:22:52 AM PDT by CedarDave
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My sister is north side of CS My niece and her husbands families are in Monument. So sad.


21 posted on 06/13/2013 10:24:36 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: CedarDave
The northern pine beetle has killed off millions of acres of timber throughout North America. The Canadians have been very aggressive in their harvest of this timber to keep the wildfires from happening throughout BC and AB. There were fires similar to this around Kelowna, BC a few years back.

The US has been much less aggressive in harvesting this dead timber on its Federal and state lands. This is primarily because of government bureaucracy's and injunctions filed by environmental groups in court to delay timber sales. The result is millions of acres of dead standing timber just waiting for the next lightning strike or carelessly thrown match.

22 posted on 06/13/2013 10:28:23 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: DaveyB

Watching KOAA live. In the past five minutes it has just exploded east of highway 83.


23 posted on 06/13/2013 10:32:29 AM PDT by CedarDave
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My nieces in laws have been evacuated. They are off Higby Road & Colonial Park in Monument. They are both retired military, he’s still working.


24 posted on 06/13/2013 10:33:59 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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Ugh. Best of luck and prayers up. Keep us updated as you can.


25 posted on 06/13/2013 10:34:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: woodbutcher1963

LIVE UPDATES: 11:29 a.m.: Black Forest fire by the numbers . . .

Containment: 0 percent

Deaths / injuries: None reported

Acres burned: 15,000

Homes burned: 360 destroyed / 14 damaged

People evacuated: 38,000 people

Homes evacuated: 13,000

Evacuation area: 55 square miles.

Firefighters on scene: 500 estimated


26 posted on 06/13/2013 10:34:54 AM PDT by CedarDave
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Wife and Son were at Boy Scout Camp at Elbert this time last year. Glad they aren’t there this year.

Beautiful Country up there. Hopefully some rain is on the way.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 10:40:58 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Billthedrill
Black Forest Fire Evacuation Map
28 posted on 06/13/2013 10:43:35 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

The black forest has not been affected by beetle kill.


29 posted on 06/13/2013 10:46:47 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: CedarDave

Gee, I didn’t realize this was EAST of I-25, not west in the mountains as I presumed. And 0 percent contained? What are they waiting on?


30 posted on 06/13/2013 10:49:25 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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Rain and no more Red Flag conditions would be a start. They can’t do much otherwise. :-(


31 posted on 06/13/2013 10:55:43 AM PDT by PrairieDawg (Hey, hey - ho, ho - Chickenpooper's got to go!)
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What are they waiting on?

With 30 mph winds and very low humidity, they are waiting on God. The firefighters are doing all that is humanly possible.

32 posted on 06/13/2013 10:55:59 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: CedarDave

Thank you for the map. Our family was in Colorado Springs just this past weekend, staying off Interquest Parkway— right in what is now the “voluntary evacuation zone”.

I did note that the grass was pretty dry in the area. There were few trees and buildings in the area. The buildings all look brand new. There is a community college in the “zone”, but I don’t know whether summer school is in session.


33 posted on 06/13/2013 11:29:45 AM PDT by married21
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Something nobody has pointed out - this is a very affluent area with lots of very large and expensive homes. Local TV had several residents state they had been through this before - in California.

The deadfall and carpet of pine needles is very deep. Population density increases to the north and east.

I am 60 miles north of Black forest. Last night the smoke was reducing visibility in my ‘hood for a few hours.


34 posted on 06/13/2013 11:30:49 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: married21
Another map just available:

Black Forest fire perimeter map.

Not every home/structure within the perimeter area has been burned.

35 posted on 06/13/2013 11:37:36 AM PDT by CedarDave
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Live pictures from KOAA showing nearby small trees bowed from the wind (20 mph and increasing) and large, increasingly intense plumes of black smoke. Red flag weather conditions posted.


36 posted on 06/13/2013 11:50:43 AM PDT by CedarDave
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Pets? What about WIFE?


37 posted on 06/13/2013 12:22:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Huh. So that’s why the Range is covered with thick smoke. *Cough*


38 posted on 06/13/2013 12:37:10 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Mandatory evacuation area expanded:

1:41 p.m. Mandatory Evacuation announced for northern Colorado Springs — Northern Boundary: North Gate and Old North Gate Road - Southern Boundary: Flying Horse Club Drive (to include homes south of Flying Horse Club Drive on Barossa Valley Road and Veneto Way)/Vine Cliff Heights/Equinox Drive/Serenity Peak Drive - Eastern Boundary: Highway 83 - Western Boundary: Voyager Parkway


39 posted on 06/13/2013 12:44:20 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Sheriff briefing and update at 2 p.m.

Live stream shows DC-10 slurry bomber dropping retardant.


40 posted on 06/13/2013 12:48:44 PM PDT by CedarDave
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"Pets? What about WIFE?"

It's CO--not what most people imagine. Think NY, NJ, CA, MA, etc.


41 posted on 06/13/2013 12:50:00 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Another expansion of the mandatory evacuation area:

1:48 p.m.From CSPD via Twitter: “New mandatory evac area: Sunhills Dr & Granby Rd north to Baptist Rd & south to Old North Gate. Move west, avoid 83”

1:44 p.m. Again: Mandatory Evacuation announced for nothern Colorado Springs — Northern Boundary: North Gate and Old North Gate Road - Southern Boundary: Flying Horse Club Drive (to include homes south of Flying Horse Club Drive on Barossa Valley Road and Veneto Way)/Vine Cliff Heights/Equinox Drive/Serenity Peak Drive - Eastern Boundary: Highway 83 - Western Boundary: Voyager ParkwayThis is the first mandatory evacuation within the city of Colorado Springs. Mandatory evacuation means leave your home now and head to safety.As hundreds of northern Colorado Springs residents leave their home here’s some shelter information:

Residents who cannot stay with family or friends outside the evacuation area, go to one of the shelters listed below:

Palmer Ridge High School- 19255 Monument Hill Rd, Monument

Small Animal Shelters:

Powers Pet Emergency- Powers and Stetson Hills – Offering small animal assistance, medical & kennel. Ph (719) 473-0482

Falcon Animal Hospital- Phone (719) 495-1457, is now accepting dogs and cats. Address: 860 Swing Line Road. Palmer Ridge High School 19255 Monument Hill Road Monument, CO 80132 Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region 610 Abbot Lane Colorado Springs, CO 80905

If you are NOT staying with your pets at the Palmer Ridge High School shelter, you must bring your animals to Humane Society of the Pikes Peak Region at 610 Abbot Lane. The Palmer Ridge High School shelter is set up for owners staying with their pets only.


42 posted on 06/13/2013 12:56:40 PM PDT by CedarDave
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From new dots on the map behind the link, it appears that the fire is jumping way to the east. No surprise, because it’s breezy here on the Range way to the west. Generally southwest wind but probably different direction from the local wind direction in the Springs (usually more north or south oriented there).


43 posted on 06/13/2013 1:11:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

The wind is from the southeast and the fire is moving to the west and northwest. The dots on the map are just the assessment as of very early this morning and are not definitive of current conditions.


44 posted on 06/13/2013 1:28:52 PM PDT by CedarDave
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Moving to the west and northwest? It’s going to be an expensive one then. The haze way to the northwest is pretty thick. Caution to those with conditions who head up 9 from the Springs to the resorts, which I’m sure many already have. Temperature/level inversions overnight saturating ski towns with smoke causes respiratory inflammations in the mornings.


45 posted on 06/13/2013 1:36:57 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: CedarDave

Not near any ski area, BTW, and time to do a couple of outside chores.


46 posted on 06/13/2013 1:40:03 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

From Colorado State Patrol on Interstate 25 traffic: LEFT lane for THROUGH traffic -RIGHT lane for EVACUATING residents, LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIRST RESPONDERS


47 posted on 06/13/2013 1:42:12 PM PDT by CedarDave
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My nephew & his wife work next to Compassion International. They are being sent home because that area is being evacuated. My sister said evacuated, but wonder if company would be pre-evaculation. I hope so. That is close to Briarwood shopping. I just took my sister, niece, ....to lunch at PF Chang's & shopping there on Friday. Focus on the Family is really close to their. God have mercy.
48 posted on 06/13/2013 1:55:07 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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2:52 p.m. New evacuations in northern Colorado Springs bring the total number of evacuees to 41,000.

2:44 p.m. Colorado State Patrol advising drivers headed to denver to take Highway 24 to I-70 then head west.

2:41 p.m. Firefighters on radio say Black Forest fire flaring up at Shoup and Falcon. Fire behavior increasing as winds are picking up.

2:36 p.m. Traffic nightmare in northern Colorado Springs. If you don’t need to be there, leave. Reporters, officials say it’s a parking lot through much of the area north of Woodmen Road.


49 posted on 06/13/2013 1:56:19 PM PDT by CedarDave
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For travel North on I25 CSP now recommends you go via Hwy 24 East out to Limon and then West to Denver.

Nearly a 200mi detour


50 posted on 06/13/2013 1:56:23 PM PDT by mpreston
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