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Senate kills Grassley’s border-security amendment — with all 4 Republican Gang of Eight members
Hotair ^ | 06/13/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/13/2013 12:27:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Grassley's amendment was dead on arrival in the Judiciary Committee and it was dead on arrival on the floor of the Senate today. Why? Because it did the one thing Republican border hawks Must Not Do as part of this grand, glorious compromise on immigration: It demanded that the border be effectively secured before any form of legalization, including first-stage probationary legalization, is granted to illegals. That would be a true enforcement “trigger” for amnesty, something that would warrant a second look at the bill. But of course, Democrats will never, ever agree to it; they have no more faith in DHS efficiently securing the border than you do, and thus there’s no way they’re going to make legalization contingent upon it. That’s why even Rubio, since the very beginning of this fiasco, has insisted that probationary legalization come before border security. The bill would be dead if he didn’t make that concession, and he’d rather have a terrible bill that betrays his phony promises of “security first” than have no bill at all.

That’s also why he, McCain, Graham, and Flake — the four GOP members of the Gang of Eight — all voted yes on Reid’s motion to table Grassley’s amendment, along with devout RINO Lisa Murkowski. They were the only Republican votes that Reid got, and as it turns out, he didn’t need a single one of them. A motion to table requires only 51 votes to pass and Reid had 52 Democrats on his side. The Republican “Gang” members conceivably could have voted no to try to show conservatives that they were striking a blow for tighter border security, even though they knew their votes would mean nothing and that Grassley’s amendment would fail anyway. They didn’t, because the Gang’s vowed to stick together on tough votes as a show of solidarity in the name of preserving the horrible “compromise” they’ve struck. They’re now past the point, it seems, of even making a pretense of border enforcement for the benefit of angry righties. There’s something to be said for honesty, I guess.

Reid’s move infuriated opponents of the bill, who said their right to keep talking while they worked to build a coalition for their proposal had been stripped away without fair warning.

“This so-called open and fair process is a farce,” the top Judiciary Committee Republican, Charles E. Grassley, called out just before the roll call. “This is a very provocative act.”…

For Reid, the power to call for tabling motions gives him additional leverage to move the debate along at a relatively brisk pace — and with solid odds of keeping the bill to his liking. He can make ideas he views as poison pills go away with 51 votes, while the other side will need 60 votes to add language viewed as killer amendments by the Obama administration, the gang of eight and the coalition of business and labor groups pushing the measure.

Rubio will, I’m guessing, defend his vote to table Grassley’s amendment in two ways. One: He’ll try to pander to conservatives by driving a hard bargain on other hot-button stuff to distract them from the fact that he caved on allowing legalization before border security. His last pander was to demand stricter English-language requirements for illegals; today’s pander is to threaten Democrats that he’ll walk away from the bill if Pat Leahy’s amendment granting rights to the spouses of gay illegals passes. The fact that he’s willing to make a lame, boutique issue like that a dealbreaker but not the fact that Democrats refuse to secure the border before granting illegals probationary legalization tells you exactly how seriously he’s taking this bill from a policy standpoint. It’s an insult to serious border hawks, but as DrewM says, it’ll help Rubio with social cons in Iowa in 2016. And that’s what really matters, Rubio’s endless pronouncements that he’s only doing this because it’s the “right thing to do” notwithstanding.

Two: He’ll end up either backing Cornyn’s amendment demanding tighter border security before the second stage of legalization (the green-card process) or, if Democrats give him a firm no on that, he’ll cave on that too and then try to put together an even weaker border amendment of his own as a substitute. Sounds like that’s what’s in motion now, with Rubio working on a compromise while our old friend McCain tries to kill Cornyn’s bill before it even gets rolling:

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is beginning to speak out forcefully against the Cornyn language, bombarding the Texas Republican with critical comments from the Senate floor. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is lobbying other Republicans on potential compromises. And Rubio, although he said Wednesday that the Cornyn plan “dramatically improves the bill,” is working on a package that others in the Gang of Eight hope could emerge as an alternative…

Rubio, in an interview with POLITICO this week, would not describe his work with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and others as an “alternative” to the Cornyn plan.

“We certainly have ideas, and we’re sharing them with people, but if others want to take the lead on securing the border, that’s good,” Rubio said. “We’re in a game of addition. … The border security elements of the bill will have to be improved. The only issue is what is going to do that.”

Cornyn’s bill is better than the status quo but see Mickey Kaus for why it too is basically a fudge on real border security, beginning with the fact that it signs on to the Gang’s “legalization before security” scheme rather than Grassley’s “security first” proposal. And so now we wait: Will Democrats cave, allowing Cornyn’s ineffective but salable-to-conservatives border amendment into the bill? Or will they muscle Rubio into quitting on Cornyn and offering something that’s even more watered down? The fate of … nothing, really, depends on the answer.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; congress; corruption; criminalaliens; democrats; gangofeight; grassley; illegalimmigration; immigration; reid; rinos
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1 posted on 06/13/2013 12:27:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Gang of 8holes


2 posted on 06/13/2013 12:29:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

“They’re not ‘illegal aliens’ and don’t call it ‘amnesty’ !”- SOB gang members


3 posted on 06/13/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

They have contempt for us.


4 posted on 06/13/2013 12:33:12 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
there is a tweet by drudge that sums it up for me MATT DRUDGE ‏@DRUDGE 11 Jun Do you get the feeling God is no longer watching over America
5 posted on 06/13/2013 12:35:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SeekAndFind

in today’s world immigration reform, although important, is a much lower priority in the scheme of things. It needs to dropped for the year and all energy spent on the scandals, the budget, unemployment, the armed forces, and impeachment.

When do start seeing some indictments??


6 posted on 06/13/2013 12:53:32 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

Rush was so wrong about this today. He said the amendment didn’t allow citizenship before security. That’s wrong. This amendment wouldn’t even allow legalization (not the same as citizenship) before border security was agreed.

It’s a silly amendment and deserved to be voted down. We need legalization and registration immediately precisely because the borders are NOT secure. Anyone who comes AFTER registration? No dice.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 1:18:45 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
We need legalization and registration immediately precisely because the borders are NOT secure. Anyone who comes AFTER registration? No dice.

I hope you are being sarcastic. You really want to import 10s of millions of leftist voters? Furthermore, the feds never honor border/immigration security of any law in any meaningful way. LINK: Big Sis: Obama Admin Can Pick Which Laws to Enforce

8 posted on 06/13/2013 1:33:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: RummyChick
there is a tweet by drudge that sums it up for me MATT DRUDGE ‏@DRUDGE 11 Jun Do you get the feeling God is no longer watching over America

Curious. Even Drudge gets it? I get the distinct feeling God is not only NOT watching over America, we are now cursed.

The blood-stained soil of 40 million aborted pre-borns cries for justice and a nation and governance which now ridicules God has brought this upon her own head. The Lord shall not be mocked. May He have mercy upon the faithful.

9 posted on 06/13/2013 1:43:25 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: SeekAndFind

This legislation is treason.


10 posted on 06/13/2013 1:45:24 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Gene Eric

This group sounds like a dangerous highschool elite group “Gang of EIGHT” PHFFFFTTT! Kids, they sound and act like children and our citizens keep voting them into seats of power.


11 posted on 06/13/2013 1:49:58 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: USS Johnston

I’m not as deist, but God surely seems to be acting like a Deist these past few years.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 1:50:00 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: USS Johnston
40 million aborted pre-born

Isn't it 55 million? You make a good point.

13 posted on 06/13/2013 1:51:29 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Gene Eric

Go ahead Rubio, run for President. What a wuss and by the way you did change your story on Limbaugh and Hannity.


14 posted on 06/13/2013 1:56:28 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: SomeCallMeTim
We need legalization and registration immediately precisely because the borders are NOT secure.

That is a suicidal solution if ever I heard one. Are you that anxious to destroy our national sovereignty in one fall swoop?

Since 9/11 we-the-sane have BEGGED the Executive and Legislative branches to secure the border but been summarily ignored.

You, Rubio, McCain, Schumer, DiFi, and the rest of the One-World Globalists won't be happy until we're Pressing "1" for Espanol, "2" for Spanglish, "3" for Arabic, and "4" for Redneck.

15 posted on 06/13/2013 1:57:42 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: Theodore R.
Isn't it 55 million? You make a good point.

Could well be. I apologize to the souls of 15 million unborn. Who can keep count? :-(

17 posted on 06/13/2013 1:59:48 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: elpadre

With the oldster elected “in charge”, the important issues are those that keep the uninformed/nonreaders glued to the tv and the oldsters standing before a camera telling the uninformed how hard they are working on non-essential programs. Immigration is not as serious as our Border Safety is. I agree...IRS, EPA, JUSTICE DEPT, FAST & FURIOUS,
BENGHAZI and maybe NSA...depending IF snowden has some serious information for the chinese government. These camera hogs just want to be seen and make people think they’re serious...they are not. Too bad none of the elite elected are living right next to the border line between Mexico & America. Too bad our elected don’t have to put up with the garbage these people leave behind, or the damage done to their livestock.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 1:59:54 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: JMsAmerica4ever

Hear ya.

That blaspheming “leader” of this nation actually uttered “God bless” to a group of murderous abortionists. He’s covered up the image of the Lord at Notre Dame during a speech. He’s openly used language that’s portrayed himself as some kind of “savior.” And for all this, We The People re-elect such an arrogant, demonic force?


19 posted on 06/13/2013 2:05:29 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: Theodore R.
I’m not as deist, but God surely seems to be acting like a Deist these past few years.

It may seem as though He's abandoned us, but the truth is WE have abandoned HIM. Satan is merely filling a spiritual void; Man is in love with himself and this world; HIS world of "Do what thou whilst."

America is no longer good, but evil. For that it will face chastisement. Some will blame it on "Climate Change"; Others on "bad government." Others an "angry Mother Earth."

20 posted on 06/13/2013 2:15:18 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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