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U.S. Military Plan to Arm Rebels Includes No-Fly Zone in Syria
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 06/13/2013 2:14:50 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

U.S. Military Plan to Arm Rebels Includes No-Fly Zone in Syria

WASHINGTON—A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.

Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.

To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

The White House is currently considering proposals to arm the rebels in Jordan, according to U.S. officials. White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden declined to comment on the details of those deliberations.

The limited no-fly zone wouldn't require the destruction of Syrian antiaircraft batteries, U.S. officials said.

Officials said the White House could decide to authorize the U.S. to arm and train rebels in Jordan without authorizing the no-fly zone recommended by military planners. A White House announcement could come soon, officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; lebanon; patriotmissiles; russia; syria; wagthedog; warmonger; waronterror
25 miles? Well that they'll show 'em............
1 posted on 06/13/2013 2:14:50 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

In order to avoid unnecessary duplicates, always please use the proper headline.


2 posted on 06/13/2013 2:16:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh my, everyone wants to serve Obama these days.

These Soros foundations are a diversion of military resources to Finlandize America into girl scout support operations instead of national defense.

Looks like the gaying brass are hard at work in our military while letting the Chinese play men.


3 posted on 06/13/2013 2:17:51 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Sub-Driver
thestupiditburns
4 posted on 06/13/2013 2:18:35 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is a tough decision. I feel we should just stay out of it...and I really don't think there are any good guys. All I do know is Assad and his regime are a bunch of war criminals: Intentionally targeting hospitals and civilians (women and children)...but I have no delusions that the rebels don't/wouldn't do the same thing.
5 posted on 06/13/2013 2:21:14 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought they were doing that in Benghazi via Turkey when the crap hit the fan.


6 posted on 06/13/2013 2:23:38 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Sub-Driver

Arming islamists so that will turn them on us.

Shrewd use of islamism by obama.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 2:25:34 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Sub-Driver

I’M CALLIN’ MY CONGRESSCRITTER TOMORROW MORNING.

NO WAY NO-FLY ZONE.

ENOUGH GLOBAL BANKING REBELLIONS !!!!!!!!

LEAVE THE LEADERS OF OTHER COUNTRIES ALONE !!!!

This is makin’ me nuts.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 2:25:59 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Sub-Driver

This escalation to support the Jihadists will be met with force from Russia.


9 posted on 06/13/2013 2:26:49 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Sub-Driver

When muzzies are slaughtering each other, why get involved?


10 posted on 06/13/2013 2:31:43 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: NELSON111

Do you really believe that Obama has the stones to take on Vlad Putin over this? I don’t.


11 posted on 06/13/2013 2:34:11 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

Where are those in Congress who will insist on the President asking Congress for a formal declaration of war before funding is provided? You know the ones, they are the ones always waving the Constitution but are selective where it should be applied. Make Obama follow the Constitution.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 2:36:52 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Sub-Driver

and when Assad defends his sovereignty in this undeclared foreign intervention, Sunni putsch, to unseat him massquarading as a “civil war”, and Russian SAMs are used against unauthorized foreign planes in Syrian skies, then what?

U.S. policy makers claim increasing Russian & Iranian military activities in the region bother them, and then help instigate a “civil war” on behalf of a Sunni putsch in Syria, and take other actions which INVITE more Russian and Iranian involvement.

why are we “worried about” Syria?

because our policy on Syria is being driven by a Middle East agenda that is not our own, at least not in its origins or its purposes - not in U.S. interests, but yes serving the interests and agendas of others, particularly Saudi Arabia, its Wahabi clerics & Islamists like the MB allied with it.


13 posted on 06/13/2013 2:37:28 PM PDT by Wuli (as)
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To: onedoug

Arming and training the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda: What could go wrong.

A no-fly zone where Russians have moved their new missiles in , and may be flying some Syrian aircraft. What could go wrong?

Our military weakened Homosexualized and feminized, and spending what little they have left from sequester on a war thousands of miles away that we should stay the F out of.

What could go wrong.


14 posted on 06/13/2013 2:50:48 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Sub-Driver

I already sent one son to Iraq. He came home in a box. The other son isn’t going anywhere. Anyone have a son to spare?


15 posted on 06/13/2013 2:56:35 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“This escalation to support the Jihadists will be met with force from Russia.”

This so far is a proxy war. The Emperor Jones in the White Hut has been only moderately successful in arming his AL-Qaeda rebel pals. The Russians have been right up front in arming their ally, Bashir.

What’s going to be interesting is that in July we’re landing a sizable military force in Jordan (ostensibly for pre-planned exercises) along with a significant aircraft component. The aircraft will be staying in place after these “exercises” are completed.

Stay tuned.


16 posted on 06/13/2013 3:07:22 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Sub-Driver

By all means let’s duplicate the Libya debacle.

We could even have a new embassy there that.......Oh wait.


17 posted on 06/13/2013 3:26:36 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Uh...no....he doesn’t.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 3:33:27 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Sub-Driver

This is crazy.


19 posted on 06/13/2013 3:45:40 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: USMCPOP

“I already sent one son to Iraq. He came home in a box. The other son isn’t going anywhere. Anyone have a son to spare?”

I’m so sorry to hear that, sir. God bless you and your family.


20 posted on 06/13/2013 3:52:18 PM PDT by MNGal
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To: NELSON111

Tough decision? Tough decision?

Arming al quaida is a tough decision?


21 posted on 06/13/2013 3:54:40 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This whole thing is a false flag to pull the country’s eyes away from the scandals surrounding this POS like the flies he adores.
It would be surprising to find out that he called his buds in the Syrian rebel group to provide “evidence” and is acting on it from there. I don’t trust, or believe, anything this POS says. Any person considering military duty under this POS needs to seek another career path. He’s evil.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 4:02:07 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is insanity. Even after everyone in the US knew that Japan had attacked us at Pearl Harbor, FDR still made it a point to explain the need to fight to the American people. Obama needs to explain his actions to the American people. Why are we fighting in Syria? I’m well aware of Syria’s past. The Democrats wet themselves for years over the “imperialism” of us being in Panama. Now, not a peep from them for aiding the murder of Qadaffi and fighting to overthrow the government of Syria? With no explanation? Imperialism is OK if it’s Democrat imperialism?


23 posted on 06/13/2013 4:07:00 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: USMCPOP

I am so sorry for your loss.
May the Holy Spirit hold tight your family.


24 posted on 06/13/2013 4:14:16 PM PDT by SisterK (front row seats to the Great Tribulation, booking now)
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To: MNGal; SisterK

Thank you both.

Our country spends their best and brightest and has nothing left to show for it. The world is poorer for that.


25 posted on 06/13/2013 4:30:40 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP
I work in DoD and a Grandma. I'm so sick that we can't win a war due to the many "political correctness" issues. I think the department is almost dysfunctional today - now Obama wants to add a new front!!! This is true treason.

I'm now reading Chris Kyle's book, who had such extreme admiration for the Marines, and it is a page turner. I'm so sorry for your loss - losing your child is the 2nd biggest sacrifice you can give to your country if you didn't lose your own life. God bless you.

26 posted on 06/13/2013 5:23:16 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Sub-Driver

Where’s the congressional authorization?


27 posted on 06/13/2013 6:04:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Sub-Driver

Where’s the congressional authorization?


28 posted on 06/13/2013 6:04:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NELSON111

Your Post #5 is spot-on.

There are no good guys over there. I’d prefer that we just stay out of it and continue to let both sides kill one another - just like we should have done in Libya.


29 posted on 06/13/2013 7:31:01 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Sub-Driver

Another opportunity to lead from behind for Obama. Will our NATO allies be in on this one too?


30 posted on 06/13/2013 8:25:04 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Plan "B" is now Plan "A")
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To: NELSON111
the Shah was evil...and Saddam Hussein...and Batista....and lets not forget that those evil Serbians killed and buried 10,000 Kosovo people in that one grave...

the point is....the devil you know vs the devil you don't know....

would the world be completely different if the Shah of Iran had remained in power?......

31 posted on 06/13/2013 8:28:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: clintonh8r

>>>When muzzies are slaughtering each other, why get involved?<<<

There are literally the whole Christian population and other minorities on government side as well. I don’t think it’s fair to call Assad regime a muzzie.


32 posted on 06/14/2013 2:44:20 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Wuli
.... undeclared foreign intervention, Sunni putsch, to unseat him masquerading as a “civil war”, ..... and Russian SAMs are used against unauthorized foreign planes in Syrian skies, then what?

Since Day One of the Obama era, my personal fear has been that he will take us to war in an attempt to stabilize his régime and concentrate his power. Every Democrat, from the village dog warden on up, wants to be FDR.

In Obama's case, this is an update of his 2006 illegal fundraising and campaigning for the Jihadist Communist Raila Odinga in Kenya. When Odinga lost, Christians were massacred. When the Egyptian rebels won, Christians are massacred. When the Libyan rebels won, Christians are massacred. When the Tunisian rebels won, Christians are massacred. When the Syrian rebels win, Christians are massacred. Present tense, because everywhere mentioned, this is happening now.

"The last refuge of a scoundrel is patriotism." Well the Russkis have their own scoundrel and Obama will have his war.

33 posted on 06/14/2013 3:24:18 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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Inside Jordan? We anticipate a Syrian attack on Jordan? The King's air force has over 60 F16s of various configurations and ground based air defenses. Why do we sell them this stuff if they're not going to use it. Only to be used against Israel, I guess.

34 posted on 06/14/2013 5:30:03 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

The Russians will bring in their prime air defense gear, prep up for the US drones with various tactics, and maybe even bring some Surface-launchable cruise missiles to go after a naval group. All you need is two US fighters to get knocked down...a couple of drones to be disabled and fall out of the sky....and one near-hit on a naval ship to scare everybody back into their corner. Everyone wants to say the Russians are weak and can’t mount any kind of capability like they had in the 1980s. Maybe, but if they just had one lucky day...it’d reset the clock a bit.


35 posted on 06/14/2013 3:00:33 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: PieterCasparzen

I don’t blame you. And worse, an Obama “no fly zone” is bombing the opposition like they did in Libya.


36 posted on 06/14/2013 8:56:55 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

What about just making Syria a no muslim zone???


37 posted on 06/15/2013 4:47:42 AM PDT by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.

White House: No Plans for No-Fly Zone Over Syria
Arutz Sheva | 15/6/13 | Elad Benari
Posted on 06/15/2013 2:59:30 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3031789/posts


38 posted on 06/15/2013 5:15:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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