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Thousands Of Firms Trade Confidential Data With The US Gov In Exchange For Classified Intelligence
Zero Hedge ^ | June 14, 2013 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 06/13/2013 10:28:23 PM PDT by Zakeet

Complete Headline: Thousands Of Firms Trade Confidential Data With The US Government In Exchange For Classified Intelligence

The rabbit hole just got deeper. A whole lot deeper.

On Sunday we predicated that "there's one reason why the administration, James Clapper and the NSA should just keep their mouths shut as the PRISM-gate fallout escalates: with every incremental attempt to refute some previously unknown facet of the US Big Brother state, a new piece of previously unleaked information from the same intelligence organization now scrambling for damage control, emerges and exposes the brand new narrative as yet another lie, forcing even more lies, more retribution against sources, more journalist persecution and so on."

And like a hole that just gets deeper the more you dug and exposes ever more dirt, tonight's installment revealing one more facet of the conversion of a once great republic into a great fascist, "big brother" state, comes from Bloomberg which reports that "thousands of technology, finance and manufacturing companies are working closely with U.S. national security agencies, providing sensitive information and in return receiving benefits that include access to classified intelligence, four people familiar with the process said."

The companies extend far wider than the legacy telcos, such as Verizon, that launched the entire NSA-spying scandal a week ago: "Makers of hardware and software, banks, Internet security providers, satellite telecommunications companies and many other companies also participate in the government programs. In some cases, the information gathered may be used not just to defend the nation but to help infiltrate computers of its adversaries."

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; espionage; harassconservatives; nsa; spying; terrorism

The rabbit hole just got deeper. A whole lot deeper.

1 posted on 06/13/2013 10:28:23 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

NSA = domestic data spooks with no accountability or warrant !


2 posted on 06/13/2013 10:37:39 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet

Graphic stolen...


3 posted on 06/13/2013 10:38:12 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Zakeet; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...
Don't Spy On Me photo Dontspyonme_zpsa3c57d39.jpg

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

4 posted on 06/13/2013 10:39:27 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Zakeet

{The rabbit hole just got deeper. A whole lot deeper.}

“with mother finally ******, and the last fantastic book flung out the tenement window, and the last door closed at 4 AM and the last telephone slammed at the wall in reply and the last furnished room emptied down to the last piece of mental furniture, a yellow paper rose twisted on a wire hanger in the closet, and even that imaginary, nothing but a hopeful little bit of hallucination -——

“ah, Carl, while you are not safe I am not safe , and now you’re really in the total animal soup of time ——”

[Allen Ginsberg]


5 posted on 06/13/2013 10:42:04 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Zakeet

Crony capitalism at its finest — U.S. government departments and agencies swapping information on rivals and others with selected businesses. WHAT national security?


6 posted on 06/13/2013 10:42:40 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Zakeet

Snakes are expert at navigating rabbit holes. The spirit invoked in that revised Gadsden banner became more poignant.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 10:44:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Zakeet
"thousands of technology, finance and manufacturing companies are working closely with U.S. national security agencies, providing sensitive information and in return receiving benefits that include access to classified intelligence,..."Makers of hardware and software, banks, Internet security providers, satellite telecommunications companies and many other companies also participate in the government programs."

How many here are aware of some of the foreign interests involved in American-"based" manufacturing (on foreign soil) and in "telecommunications companies?" Not many, I reckon.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 10:49:03 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zakeet

There are many Islamists in such telecommunications companies doing exactly the same work that Snowden did (systems administration). And you do know where much of the manufacturing, especially of hardware, is done.


9 posted on 06/13/2013 10:51:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zakeet

Excellent and deep enough.

Try setting up an Ebay account and asking for them to increase your selling limit from $500 to $5,000.

They limit you initially mitigate your ability to perform any expensive scams.

Let’s say you have an item however that you rightfully believe should sell for $4,500.

You have to call Ebay and they perform a very sophisticated and deep background check on you. They will ask you some pretty surprising questions that you don’t think anyone would know and information you had long just about forgot.

If you pass with one score they give you a provisional increase.

If you pass with flying colors you get pretty much what you asked for but, they will watch your every move to ensure you don’t scam their members.

How did they get this info?

Think....


10 posted on 06/13/2013 11:01:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Zakeet
Insider trading for the hedge fund operators. Can you say Rahm Emanuel.
11 posted on 06/14/2013 12:05:07 AM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: Zakeet; All

12 posted on 06/14/2013 12:14:21 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Zakeet
The World is a Business
13 posted on 06/14/2013 1:10:52 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: MasterGunner01

This is not crony capitalism, this is something worse- crony socialism (i.e.: Obammunism)


14 posted on 06/14/2013 1:51:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mr. K

>> this is something worse- crony socialism

Yes, it’s called fascism — something Hitler embraced.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 1:56:17 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

NSA = No Steenkin’ Accountablity


16 posted on 06/14/2013 2:17:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Zakeet

The rise of mercantilism. Capitalism seems to have had a short life which is a shame. Capitalism put the fruit within everyone’s reach, but the State and its cronies became jealous and greedy.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 4:03:48 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; holdonnow

Ok now we’re in crisis mode.


18 posted on 06/14/2013 4:26:05 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Zakeet
Good morning.

Did you ever ask yourself the questions, "why," or "how," when you get a particular email, snail mail, or telemarketer call (for example)?

If Orwell was alive today he would say, "I told you so." "You boys are in big trouble."

5.56mm

19 posted on 06/14/2013 5:00:31 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: SE Mom

Fascism.....straight up.


20 posted on 06/14/2013 5:14:10 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

Exactly right.

I’ve sent to Drudge, Rush etc.


21 posted on 06/14/2013 5:21:42 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Gene Eric
Definition of FASCISM
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control < early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge >

— fas·cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·tic \fa-ˈshis-tik also -ˈsis-\ adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb often capitalized
The CRONYISM component is new for Obama

22 posted on 06/14/2013 5:23:07 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Vendome

Have you ever seen the info a Lexis-nexis search can generate? It’s pretty much your life story...


23 posted on 06/14/2013 5:31:29 AM PDT by lwd (This post was recorded by the N.S.A.)
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To: Zakeet

Excellent graphic.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 5:32:01 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Zakeet
Hussein is going to have to start a GIANT war to get this turkey off the front page and to keep his job.
25 posted on 06/14/2013 5:33:48 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Zakeet; Admin Moderator

DRUDGE has it now ...this should be in breaking news


26 posted on 06/14/2013 5:46:08 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Zakeet
Sounds like the end result of the "public-private" partnerships Hillary! used to talk so lovingly about....seems oBozo has perfected them....
27 posted on 06/14/2013 5:52:42 AM PDT by machman
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To: Vendome

You have to call Ebay and they perform a very sophisticated and deep background check on you. They will ask you some pretty surprising questions that you don’t think anyone would know and information you had long just about forgot.


I just heard one of those calls days ago by a family member who was increasing her selling limit.

It doesn’t support your claims. They asked to verify past addresses lived at, which is available on any credit report without any NSA support.

Sorry, if you want to make the claim, then tell me what questions you allege they are asking, and what information they have that’s not on your credit record.


28 posted on 06/14/2013 6:01:21 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: SE Mom

To avoid US oversight, data is stored offshore.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/u-s-agencies-said-to-swap-data-with-thousands-of-firms.html#disqus_thread


29 posted on 06/14/2013 6:48:34 AM PDT by maggief
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To: MestaMachine; Nachum; LucyT

Ping!

http://www.drudgereport.com/

US SPY AGENCIES ‘SWAP DATA’ WITH THOUSANDS OF FIRMS


30 posted on 06/14/2013 6:50:59 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

It’s UNFLIPPINGREAL


31 posted on 06/14/2013 6:51:07 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

Related:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/13/jailed-qwest-ceo-claimed-that-nsa-retaliated-because-he-wouldnt-participate-in-spy-program/

Jailed Qwest CEO claimed that NSA retaliated because he wouldn’t participate in spy program


32 posted on 06/14/2013 7:07:38 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Vendome

Think about all those updates you get from Microsoft or Java, etc. You have no clue what you downloaded into your computer. They have full access to everything and have had for years.


33 posted on 06/14/2013 8:03:41 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

I will not tell you the questions but, three of them were something I would not think anyone would know off a simple credit report.

What High School did you go to? What college did you go to?

One of the questions was multiple choice and where I lived at two different addresses more than twenty years ago.

Now, understand I didn’t get my 1st car loan until 6 years ago and the only reason I got it was the car I was driving died, right in front of the dealership as I was passing it and I needed a car right then and didn’t want to cash some investments for it, which have taken some time to convert anyway.

The only way they could have known those addresses was either from a phone bill or cable bill.

I never applied for a loan during that time and didn’t have one in place.

The other questions I’ll leave out.

The point is where does the information come from? The NSA doesn’t create information or markers in your life. They collect it.

What are their sources? Telephone, cell phone, cable bills? Medical records? Credit reports? ISP’s? Airline tickets? Hotel stays? The list goes on and on.

I should also note that one of the houses a friend asked me to move in while he went to Florida so he could help his dad with some business and paid him a modest rental fee.

No contract and I believe I paid the cable bill each month as it came in and at the time I had a car phone, which I had won while at a telecom conference and didn’t have a landline.

Heck, I even just kept paying the electric bill when it came in.

So I don’t know how they knew that address which also wasn’t listed on any job application. I had been at my job some 5 years and never informed of any address changes.


34 posted on 06/14/2013 9:04:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

What are their sources? (Anything on your credit report)

Telephone, cell phone, cable bills? (Yes, from your credit report)

Medical records? (No, not on your credit report)

Credit reports? (Yes)

ISP’s? (No, unless they report to the credit agencies)

Airline tickets? (No)

Hotel stays? (No)


35 posted on 06/14/2013 9:11:26 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Zakeet

When we agree to these firms “terms” we agree to whatever they want to do.

On the snooping scandal, the government has releases a bunch of postings Snowden made over the past eight years. Thus proving what he said is true.


36 posted on 06/14/2013 10:34:49 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Zakeet

Crony Capitalism: It Works, So You Don’t Have To!


37 posted on 06/14/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Olog-hai

Brilliant.


38 posted on 06/14/2013 5:48:19 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bgill

Commerce cannot function in an atmosphere of distrust. We’re in the Age of Mistrust.


39 posted on 06/14/2013 6:12:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Vendome

>>How did they get this info?

Must be M.A.G.I.C., or something.


40 posted on 06/15/2013 7:27:26 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: bgill

“All your Base Classes are berong to us. Ha Ha Ha”


41 posted on 06/15/2013 7:28:38 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: 1010RD
Crony Capitalism: It Works, So You Don’t Have To!
 
 
"Uhhhhh, It's about Jobs"

42 posted on 06/15/2013 7:32:42 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: 1010RD

>>Commerce cannot function in an atmosphere of distrust.

Seems to me that securing the ability of the governed to engage in EQUITABLE and FAIR commerce is part of the legitimate specified purpose for American governance:

“TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men”

Seems to me We need to re-form that. Don’t you agree?


43 posted on 06/15/2013 7:37:01 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Vendome

>>Try setting up an Ebay account

Or a UPS account to track a lost shipment.

They asked questions I suspect were derived from credit report information.

Ain’t the revelation of the method game fun?

Look...

http://www.google.com/#gs_rn=17&gs_ri=psy-ab&suggest=p&cp=20&gs_id=26&xhr=t&q=revelation+of+the+method

We can play too!


44 posted on 06/15/2013 7:43:22 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

Absolutley agree, but a century of liberal teaching in a system designed to indoctrinate has created a lot of lost knowledge.


45 posted on 06/16/2013 5:06:07 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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