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Schoolboy shot himself after police questioned him over "sexual texts"
The Telegraph ^ | 6/14/2013 | Josie Ensor

Posted on 06/14/2013 4:44:07 AM PDT by markomalley

Charlie Booth, 16, was worried he would get into trouble after police visited to discuss sexual text messages he sent to a girl.

He was described as a “remarkable young man” by his headteacher at the prestigious £10,000-a-year Gads Hill School in Higham, Kent, set in the former home of Charles Dickens.

Charlie was found dead by his parents on March 8 at their home in Watling Street, Cobham, Kent.

The coroner ruled that Charlie took his own life.

Hours before his death police were called to the family's home between 6pm and 7pm to reports of text messages of a sexual nature being sent to a girl, the inquest at Gravesend's Old Town Hall heard.

Det Sgt Lee Neiles, of Kent Police, told the inquest: "She wanted them to stop.

"Nick (Charlie's father) gave him words of advice and they went to KFC in Valley Drive in Gravesend and Nick said he (Charlie) had to be careful about contacting young girls.

"They had a KFC but Charlie seemed withdrawn."

They returned home and Charlie went to his bedroom.

Around 10pm his mother Julia came back from an evening with her friends in Bluewater to hear about the complaints made against Charlie.

She told her son off and confiscated his mobile phone.

Around 30 minutes later while Mr and Mrs Booth were downstairs they heard a loud bang.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 06/14/2013 4:44:07 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

In the UK I thought suicide by firearms could not happen.


2 posted on 06/14/2013 4:46:18 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: markomalley
He liked girls?

What a homophobic pervert.

No wonder the police had to get involved.

4 posted on 06/14/2013 5:03:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is racial profiling.)
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To: markomalley

Kids lose many of their best years to schooling. Those that survive have the opportunity to begin the long road to recovery. This boy wasn’t among them.


5 posted on 06/14/2013 5:03:42 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: knarf

We do not know what the content of the texts he sent were, nor do we know the age of the recipient.


6 posted on 06/14/2013 5:04:50 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
We do not know what the content of the texts he sent were, nor do we know the age of the recipient.

So let's just presume the worst. It's the safest thing to do.

7 posted on 06/14/2013 5:15:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is racial profiling.)
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To: markomalley

Once upon a time one parent would go talk to the other parent.


8 posted on 06/14/2013 5:26:31 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: markomalley

Darwin Award!


9 posted on 06/14/2013 5:28:11 AM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: markomalley

I’m distracted by the expression “they had a KFC...”


10 posted on 06/14/2013 5:32:19 AM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: markomalley
Let's assume for a second this was a normal 16-year old male with raging hormones.
It's not easy to be a young man nowadays, with so many mixed messages out there.
A lot is expected of you, yet a lot is forbidden and the lines are far from clear.
Anything goes, if it's sufficiently weird. Yet nothing goes if someone gets offended.
A lot of "misconduct" can simply be chalked up to bad manners. Manners that they never learned in the mushy feel-good schools but are supposed to know anyway.
A stern talking to would probably have fixed this. Instead the POLICE was coming, treating it as a criminal matter.

The purpose of instilling VALUES is so kids will KNOW where the borderlines are, so they don't have to guess, guess wrong and wonder if they are normal or not.

11 posted on 06/14/2013 5:33:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: cqnc

ok, that was not neccesary or funny.

A darwin award is for someone who removes themselves from the gene pool in an extraordinary act of stupidity.

This was a suicide, and does not qualify


12 posted on 06/14/2013 5:34:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: markomalley

This kid probably had other problems. This does not even come close to the kind of thing I’d expect a kid to commit suicide over.

Most adolescents don’t realize that, even 5 years hence, they won’t even remember most of the things that seem so damn important at that age.


13 posted on 06/14/2013 5:35:41 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: markomalley

In a police State, adolescence and the natural course of puppy love is now a matter for the authorities.


14 posted on 06/14/2013 5:42:42 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: markomalley

In a Sane World, this is an Issue between Parents
The Daughter tells her Mom
The Mom talks to the boys Mom
The Boys Mom (or Dad) talks to the Boy

Whippings, if necessary, are optional


15 posted on 06/14/2013 5:42:47 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: markomalley

Rejection by the girl may have been more motivation than parent or police objections to the sexting.


16 posted on 06/14/2013 5:52:06 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry

Plus the parents took away his cellphone. My daughter and most of her friends would throw themselves out the nearest window if we did that, if they didn’t die of embarassment, shock, and withdrawal first.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 5:56:40 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: G Larry

He seemed to have been holding it together until his Mom came home from a “night out with the girls” and chewed him out, probably in a drunken rage after spending hours listening to stories about horrible men.


18 posted on 06/14/2013 5:56:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He reacted in the most extreme way possible. Rather than assume the worst, let’s infer that we do not have all the relevant facts.


19 posted on 06/14/2013 5:57:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: sphinx

ya, the concept of ISOLATION, so you’re forced to consider the consequences of your behavior, has become an alien idea.


20 posted on 06/14/2013 5:59:43 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: BitWielder1

“with so many mixed messages out there” No kidding.

Not excuse bad/criminal behavior on the part of young men but last night I was going home with my young teenaged son from an event and we stopped to get a soda. There were 5 girls in there and everyone of them had on shorts up to their crotch and tight fitting a-frame t-shirts and their bra straps hanging out and more make-up than a rodeo clown. What exactly do these girls want and expect when it doesn’t quite go the way the thought it would?


21 posted on 06/14/2013 6:02:43 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: markomalley

“They had a KFC but Charlie seemed withdrawn.”


What’s with the article’s obsession with Chicken, and why did they think that would help?

;-)


22 posted on 06/14/2013 6:08:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: wideawake
By all means, never grant anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Unless they're gay.

23 posted on 06/14/2013 6:09:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is racial profiling.)
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To: HangnJudge

A ‘whipping’ of a 16-year-old boy?


24 posted on 06/14/2013 6:15:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You seem eager to pick an unprovoked fight. Have a better day than the one you’ve been having.


25 posted on 06/14/2013 6:17:29 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Mr. K

Oops, my mistake! Ordinarily intentionally self inflicted does not, in fact qualify for a Darwin Award (there have been some notable exceptions). Your post, citing someone who removes themselves from the gene pool in an extraordinary act of stupidity would almost seem to, however. Kid messes up, Girl wants him to stop, calls police. Police go to get him to stop. Mom tells him off and takes away phone. BANG! Kid self imposes death penalty. For texting / sexting? For having his phone taken away? For getting in trouble with the Law? None of this seems worth dying for. The note probably tells something...


26 posted on 06/14/2013 6:18:47 AM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: LearsFool

Kids lose many of their best years to schooling.


I used my Senior year well. I missed so many days they almost flunked me strictly on attendance even though my grades were over 3.0.

I missed 13 days per quarter and used them VERY wisely.


27 posted on 06/14/2013 6:23:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cqnc
Nope, nope, nope. Consensus thinking on this thread is as follows:

(1) He engaged in some cheeky but ultimately harmless texting.

(2) The girl he texted completely overreacted and should never have called the police.

(3) His decision to commit suicide was a respectable one, and should be blamed on other people.

Dissent from this "logic" is not permitted, is morally wrong to even contemplate, and probably means that you are an opponent of marriage or something.

28 posted on 06/14/2013 6:26:02 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Thank goodness, he didn’t do it while driving... /s


29 posted on 06/14/2013 6:29:29 AM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: wideawake

You’re the sensitive one.


30 posted on 06/14/2013 6:30:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is racial profiling.)
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To: cuban leaf

Good for you!

Even though my father was a strong advocate of schooling as a tool for “keeping kids in line”, he kept us home from time to time so we could learn stuff.

That was in the 70s. Schools were awful places even then. But the “Boys are problems” and “Hit it! Hit it! Hit it!” siege had not yet begun.

I don’t think I’d survive schooling today.


31 posted on 06/14/2013 6:37:46 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Sloth
I’m distracted by the expression “they had a KFC...”

Why do you and I let things like that distract us?

32 posted on 06/14/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

I am sure they really meant KGC. KFC is so yesteryear... (yum)


33 posted on 06/14/2013 6:44:33 AM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: Mr. K

Firstly:
“This was a suicide, and does not qualify”.

Being dumb enough to kill oneself is a bad idea - there is a world of people just brimming with those whom Texans describe as follows: “Some folks just need shootin’.”

Were the text messages sufficiently perverse, he could immigrate to America and become a Democrat.


34 posted on 06/14/2013 6:45:04 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: GladesGuru

I like your tagline, but one ‘teensy’ change - Islam is a neuter plural noun and hence - Islam Delendum Est. more info at http://ancienthistory.about.com/b/2004/12/14/delenda-est-shouldnt-be-destroyed.htm She looks not guilty to me.


35 posted on 06/14/2013 6:55:41 AM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: BitWielder1
A lot of "misconduct" can simply be chalked up to bad manners. Manners that they never learned in the mushy feel-good schools but are supposed to know anyway.

Silly me, I learned manners from my parents and grandparents at HOME. I was expected to use them everywhere, but my sisters and I learned them at home.

36 posted on 06/14/2013 7:21:05 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: markomalley

Kill the upper classes
Kill the spirit of invention, replace it with glorious diversity
Kill objectivity
Kill superiority
Kill the Individual, replace his soul with ‘notions’ of individuality
Kill the composer
Kill the schools
Kill the guardians of culture
Kill the borders
Kill the castles
Kill the boy who dreams of being special
Kill aggression kill the hunter
Kill the heterosexual kill the poet kill the passion
Kill those who would cite Orwell and Huxley
Kill the Man.
“Submission.” Allahu Akhbar.


37 posted on 06/14/2013 7:22:34 AM PDT by golux
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To: markomalley
Maybe he really didn't like fried chicken...
38 posted on 06/14/2013 7:36:20 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: G Larry

Makes me think of that old Police song:

I guess this is our last goodbye
And you don’t care so I won’t cry
But you’ll be sorry when I’m dead
And all this guilt will be on your head
I guess you’d call it suicide
But I’m too full to swallow my pride

I can’t....I can’t...I can’t stand losing.......can’t stand losing you...


39 posted on 06/14/2013 7:40:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Resolute Conservative
There were 5 girls in there and everyone of them had on shorts up to their crotch and tight fitting a-frame t-shirts and their bra straps hanging out and more make-up than a rodeo clown.

We had a 16 yr. old foster daughter years ago that we bought nice jeans for. We let her wear them to school. My wife gets a call saying that the girls attire was inappropriate, that her shorts were to short. When my wife got to the school she found out that the "little Angel" had snuck a pair of Daisy Dukes and changed into those.

My wife had her change into a pair of my baggy sweats and red hunting suspenders. She then informed the child in front of the school nurse, Principal, and Guidance counselor, that if she pulled a stunt like this again; the sweats and suspenders would be her normal school attire.

Problem solved.

40 posted on 06/14/2013 7:46:03 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Not to mention many girls now send pictures of themselves wearing even less or nothing to boys, along with sexy messages. It seems to be a very confusing time for kids to grow up- everything goes, but then not really. If attention is wanted it is all good but if there is no interest in the person doing it then it is criminal...


41 posted on 06/14/2013 7:47:49 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: verga
I learned manners from my parents and grandparents at HOME.

Same here. I did not realize until many years later how lucky I was.
Not everybody have that foundation. The schools are failing our kids in every respect. On purpose.

42 posted on 06/14/2013 8:00:02 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1
The schools are failing our kids in every respect. On purpose.

When did we give up our responsibility as adults to make sure that children have manners before they go to school? When did teaching manners become the school responsibility?

43 posted on 06/14/2013 8:06:25 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Tammy8

This is the way hollyweird has portrayed teenage life. If you can stomach to watch them, watch the shows on the Disney and Family Channel (suppose to be family oriented my butt). I don’t count the ones on MTV and such because they are just shi_t. Every show has teenagers emulating adult scenarios: affairs, overblown drama, confronting adult authority, parents being bff’s to their kids instead of parents, stupid and detached parents, multiple suitors (lack of a better word for whoring around), pregnancies, and a host of other stuff that most adults do not really ever encounter. It is this stupid idea promulgated that we have to expose them to everything to make them safe. BS. Even the so called young adult movies have the same drama.

We were wondering where our then 12-13 year old was getting some of her talking points and that is it. We shut that outlet down but the damage has been hard to reverse because some of the other kids she knows sees the same crap and talk about it.


44 posted on 06/14/2013 8:17:54 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I am glad my girls are grown, would hate to deal with all that. When they were growing up we barely had TV, just networks and bad reception with a long range antenna. We got satellite when they were in high school and I wasn’t thrilled with what was on for teens even then, I know it is worse now. I pray for my grandkids exposed to all that garbage and the mixed messages.


45 posted on 06/14/2013 8:43:48 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: verga
When did teaching manners become the school responsibility?

Depends on who you ask. You and I are lucky we have/are parents who can do this.
If you ask a Liberal (Sebelius for example) parents are irrelevant.
You need a state controlled preschool to have any chance of not dropping out in third grade.
Yes she said that:
Sebelius: Kids 'So Far Behind' by 3rd Grade 'May As Well Drop Out'

46 posted on 06/14/2013 9:13:50 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1
Depends on who you ask. You and I are lucky we have/are parents who can do this.

*WHEW* wiping brow. I thought for a second you were advocating this. For the record I am a public high school teacher and I live in Virginia.

These kids are born saying "Sir" and "Ma'am" (Occasionally I have to remind the ninth graders about "Please and thank you") But they hold doors open for the ladies and wait for the adults to enter the room.

47 posted on 06/14/2013 11:25:39 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Graybeard58

Common phrasing over here. This morning, for example, I had a McDonalds and then for my tea I had a chip shop!


48 posted on 06/14/2013 12:40:51 PM PDT by Mitch86
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To: Mitch86

Careful you don’t have to “go to hospital”.


49 posted on 06/14/2013 1:05:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: verga
I thought for a second you were advocating this.

Not at all. I do advocate good schools that teach useful information.
I agree it's the parents responsibility to teach manners and values. I can't help but notice not every parent is up to the task. Not all kids are listening to their parents. Sometimes they need to hear it from more than one source before it sinks in.
What we DON'T need are schools or a society that work against good parents, teach the opposite or try to wash those values out of the kids. Or lay down rules that are befuddling and inconsistent. That's what seems to be happening.
If you are the kind of teacher you say you are, I commend you. We need more like you.

50 posted on 06/14/2013 2:15:11 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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