Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Judge: Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influence'
stars and stripes ^

Posted on 06/14/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by Perdogg

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-95 next last

1 posted on 06/14/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by Perdogg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Well, well. It appears our “Constitutional Law Genius” is really a jerk when it comes to the Constiution.

That’s o.k. He has no use for most of it anyway.


2 posted on 06/14/2013 12:48:15 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Wow, what a bitch slap to the big ‘O’.

Despite their despicable behavior, from a political standpoint this is a positive outcome.


3 posted on 06/14/2013 12:48:31 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

What a maroon the Commander in Chief is. We’ll never see this on mainstram media. Good thing Stars and Strips exists.


4 posted on 06/14/2013 12:51:08 PM PDT by rhoda_penmark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rhoda_penmark

Apparantly my vowel keys are broken. :-(


5 posted on 06/14/2013 12:52:44 PM PDT by rhoda_penmark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Does this mean that ANY military person charged with sexual assault could not be punished?


6 posted on 06/14/2013 12:53:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Sounds like Jug Ears needs to stick to his Beer Summits and stay the hell away from a podium unless he has a telepromter.

This guy continues to impress me with his (lack of) mental capacity...


7 posted on 06/14/2013 12:54:45 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Well, maybe Barry should back off on the close and personal interference.


8 posted on 06/14/2013 12:55:00 PM PDT by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

I’m sure Big Zero’s comment about Saint Skittles looking like his son will be accepted as grounds to dismiss the case against George Zimmerman. After all, The Big Zero is exercising undue influence on a case.

How can George ever receive a fair trial when the president calls out in favor of one side.


9 posted on 06/14/2013 12:55:21 PM PDT by Hulka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

The file for stories ignored by the MSM is getting mighty full.


10 posted on 06/14/2013 12:56:08 PM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Despite their despicable behavior, from a political standpoint this is a positive outcome.

I don't think this is a "positive outcome," in any way. It's Obama's fault, of course, for sticking his nose where it didn't belong, but it's not a "positive outcome." Even if this is something that can be used against Obama politically, that is a small benefit (with everything else swirling around Obama these days, this one is meaningless) and is far outweighed by the fact that this only benefits personnel who are conficted of despicable crimes.

11 posted on 06/14/2013 12:57:17 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

Essentially, yes, if the defense submits Obama’s statements.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 12:57:56 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg; All

“‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable — prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.””


ironic- of course when it came to the murder of innocent babies by abortionist Gosnell, ayatollah obama would not comment because the trial was ongoing...but lets’ indict soldiers before due course...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/04/15/obama-wont-comment-on-gosnell-case/


13 posted on 06/14/2013 12:59:36 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BuckeyeTexan

I read down in the article after posting that. An Admirals public comments effected 60 cases last year.

This is a get out of jail free card.


14 posted on 06/14/2013 1:00:32 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; ...

Not a SCOTUS ping, but a very interesting ruling related to Obama’s comments on sexual assault in the military. Thought y’all might be interested.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 1:00:58 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
Could you imagine if this was Bush? The story on all the news channels would be either he was so ignorant and stupid he ran his mouth and now two sexual harassers are getting away, or maybe even, this was all a diabolical plot by Bush to get these guys off on a technicality because Republicans hate women.
16 posted on 06/14/2013 1:01:08 PM PDT by apillar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Where was Obama when the Commander in Chief (Bill Clinton) was accused of workplace sexual harassment, rape, lying to investigators, lying in court, bribing witness testimony, threatening witnesses, etc?

He is a sh!theel for attacking our military as sexist and as potential rapists.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 1:02:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
Good find. Link to .pdf of the ruling.

The words that Obama used that were deemed 'unlawful command influence':

“The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this,” Obama said, according to an NBC News story submitted as evidence by defense attorneys in the sexual assault cases.

‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable — prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.”

18 posted on 06/14/2013 1:02:28 PM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conscience of a Conservative

Of course the question comes up would those people have been convicted or even charged if it weren’t for Obama’s statements.

His policies have exacerbated the disciplinary problems which exist in the military.


19 posted on 06/14/2013 1:03:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: skeeter

got that right, since all this corruption has started I have been flicking through channels and local media and papers and there is not a peep on most of this by the media.

Example.
sexual assaults on men in the military has reached record levels, and that started when don’t ask was overturned but not a peep about men being raped by men in the military.

IRS, Hell I;ve hardly seen CNN mention that.

Holder, the only time he;s mentioned on MSNLSD is when they are protecting him..

The media is a joke and are not even asking where is Obama and why was he meeting with homosexuals and cross dressers in the white house while he sends out his scapegoat to tell the world we will get involved in Syria


20 posted on 06/14/2013 1:03:50 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ZULU

“-—genius “——oh, yeah, he repeatedly shows extreme geniousity. Remember when the cops “acted stupidly “. The kenyan has no idea when too shut his pie hole.


21 posted on 06/14/2013 1:03:57 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

You think 0bambi really wanted these assailants to be punished?

Justice thwarted is 0bambi’s MO—for the increased social upheaval, of course!

HF


22 posted on 06/14/2013 1:19:34 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: God luvs America

Oh, Lord - all the MTI convictions at Lackland will now be appealed on this ground and we’ll NEVER get caught up at the appellate level!


23 posted on 06/14/2013 1:29:09 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: skeeter

I was going to post LOL, but it should be more like FCOL.

For crying out loud...

This _resident never fails to under impress.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 1:29:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

the rank amatuer commander in chief (small “c” intentional)

he thinks he can be all political all the time and will bear no consequences for it

a military judge has just shown one way he can’t


25 posted on 06/14/2013 1:34:53 PM PDT by Wuli (as)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
Also note (from your link):

Military Judges take UCI very seriously. Thanks, Gen. Amos and Soetoro/obama!

26 posted on 06/14/2013 1:35:44 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ZULU
“Constitutional Law Genius”

well lets look a his college/law school grades(chuckle)

27 posted on 06/14/2013 1:36:04 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Conscience of a Conservative

Anything that undermines the Military’s confidence of Obama is good. There may be a time in the near future where he will rely on them. I sincerely hope the Military is a no-show for the ‘One’.

The harm he’s done to the military far outweighs any 2 or 3 individuals.


28 posted on 06/14/2013 1:36:21 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ZULU

It’s not that the “perfessor” doesn’t understand Constitutional law, it’s that he plainly (Benghazi) doesn’t understand that commander in chief thing.


29 posted on 06/14/2013 1:39:39 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Saoirise

PING


30 posted on 06/14/2013 1:41:07 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long Oh LORD?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
"... “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama"

The same should hold for The Trayvon -Zimmerman trial.

31 posted on 06/14/2013 1:43:34 PM PDT by yoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rhoda_penmark
all Stars and Stripes did was let the perverted sexual predators know they can go on with impunity, and keep their veterans benefits too...

anyone who thinks this is "positive" are just as twisted as the judge....

32 posted on 06/14/2013 1:44:50 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: manc

“where is Obama and why was he meeting with homosexuals and cross dressers in the white house “

And did you hear he was introduced at yesterday’s “gay” event at the white hut by a couple of 3rd graders? Brainwashing innocent little kids.


33 posted on 06/14/2013 1:47:14 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: ImJustAnotherOkie

the military is in lock step with our creep in charge....and now, sexual assault will be winked at, because there virtually is no punishment...


34 posted on 06/14/2013 1:47:41 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Well, at least there’s ONE power structure in Hawaii that isn’t corrupt. They gave us King Obama’Bama Meha in the FIRST place.


35 posted on 06/14/2013 1:49:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

the “constitutional and legal scholar” just stepped on his crank.


36 posted on 06/14/2013 1:51:55 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

. . . and this tells you exactly how much lawyerin’ he has done with his shiny law degree. now I understand why he bailed out of law and went into “community organizing”; because he sucked at it.


37 posted on 06/14/2013 1:53:18 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VRWCarea51

But he won the prise he’s the president, he got elected, you gotta respect the office .how much worse would things be if we,!,, didn’t have him? Doireallyneedasarc?


38 posted on 06/14/2013 1:55:07 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BlatherNaut

he was and they were there.

AARRGGHHHHH.

The founding fathers are turning in their grave


39 posted on 06/14/2013 1:56:09 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: BlatherNaut

Believe it or not, there was a woman who called into a radio program and said she has direct knowledge that 0bama and some of his close staff are child molesters. I’m not kidding. Maybe he’s Michael Jackson’s brother, with that creepy ‘I appeal to women but have sex with little children’ persona. Take note that Michelle RECENTLY said she is “a single mom”. WTF?


40 posted on 06/14/2013 1:58:28 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: cherry

Not saying this is positive, but a case where the judge is following the law. Improper command influence must have consequences, just as an unlawful search and seizure does in civilian courts. The judge may not like the decision he reaches, but if the law clearly compels him to do so, then I’m OK with his decision. I will gladly take a judge who follows the law rather than makes, repeals, disregards or ignores the law as it exists.


41 posted on 06/14/2013 2:01:37 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

If the cases were male on male, 0b0z0 actually protected them!

He’s supposedly a lawyer, albeit a lousy, non-licensed one.

All I Hawaii = all in the family


42 posted on 06/14/2013 2:03:08 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: melancholy

All I -——> All in


43 posted on 06/14/2013 2:05:17 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Ha Ha, “O” is a dip $hit


44 posted on 06/14/2013 2:25:24 PM PDT by thegrump
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hulka

I was thinking the same thing.


45 posted on 06/14/2013 2:32:49 PM PDT by Rusty0604
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: BuckeyeTexan

The defense attorney (or military equivalent) for these guys was an evil genius. Seriously.


46 posted on 06/14/2013 2:54:45 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: The Antiyuppie
The ruling sets the stage for defense attorneys to use the same arguments in sexual assault cases throughout the military.

Wow. bama really messed things up.
47 posted on 06/14/2013 3:04:03 PM PDT by Girlene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

I guess the beer garden episode didn’t teach him a lesson, eh?


48 posted on 06/14/2013 3:05:21 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Perhaps they should come to the same conclusion with George Zimmerman - Obama did say that if he had a son, “Trayvon the Saint” would look like him. I don’t recall, but I’d bet he also said some other tripe about justice and such.


49 posted on 06/14/2013 3:09:03 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

I’m sure Obama will say he has no tolerance for judges who claim Obama said something wrong. He will probably try to have this judge removed or maybe a very intrusive IRS audit will be visited upon him and his family. This guy is worse than Nixon as far as using the federal gov’t to go against his enemies.


50 posted on 06/14/2013 3:11:22 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-95 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson