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Car Thieves Outsmarting Police
KNBC-TV - NBC4 News ^ | June 13, 2013 | Tony Shin

Posted on 06/14/2013 1:28:13 PM PDT by george76

Car burglars appear to be using a new high-tech device that allows them to disable alarm systems and quickly enter vehicles. Law enforcement agencies are stumped as to how they can prevent the auto break-ins.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcchicago.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: car; carthieves; disablealarms; police; thieves

1 posted on 06/14/2013 1:28:13 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

It’s simple. Execute car thieves as they used to do with horse thieves.


2 posted on 06/14/2013 1:31:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Frankly, I agree. Cars are todays horses. And they are freaking expensive to buy and maintain, like decent horses.


3 posted on 06/14/2013 1:32:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lurker

Amen

15 0r 20 hangin’s would end the practice


4 posted on 06/14/2013 1:32:40 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: george76

LoJack


5 posted on 06/14/2013 1:34:04 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: george76

Always put in a hidden kill switch somewhere they least expect it


6 posted on 06/14/2013 1:35:56 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Neoliberalnot

HighLimb


7 posted on 06/14/2013 1:36:04 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: george76

Police solve crimes?

Who knew!

I thought they just raised revenue for the Welfare State.

That’s my experience over about a dozen interactions in my life.


8 posted on 06/14/2013 1:37:42 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: GraceG
Always put in a hidden kill switch somewhere they least expect it

Doesn't work if they're not out to steal the car. The story just indicates the thieves are obtaining access to the vehicle, and stealing items inside, by disabling the alarm and unlocking the doors. It doesn't mention they're taking the cars.

9 posted on 06/14/2013 1:38:14 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: IYAS9YAS

Around here they are breaking in and taking the registration and loose items.
No sign of entry. No alarms go off. For some reason they want the registration.


10 posted on 06/14/2013 1:40:14 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat
For some reason they want the registration.

sounds like government work to me

11 posted on 06/14/2013 1:44:40 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Oldexpat

http://abcnews.go.com/US/stolen-car-registrations-lead-thieves-empty-homes-owners/story?id=16108396#.UbuAnT6v-RI


12 posted on 06/14/2013 1:45:56 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Oldexpat

Identification fraud

By getting your registration, it gives the thieves the opportunity to take out credit cards and commit other acts of fraud.


13 posted on 06/14/2013 1:53:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Oldexpat

Peoria Arizona police sent out a bulletin that thieves were targeting churches. The idea is to locate people who will be out of the house for a known period of time. The thieves break into the cars to steal registration and the garage door opener. They then proceed to the house to plunder the goodies.

A friend sent me the notice. His church is next door to ours, but in Phoenix, not Peoria. He said that their church had had multiple break-ins during funeral services and early morning Mass.


14 posted on 06/14/2013 1:58:25 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Lurker
It’s simple. Execute car thieves as they used to do with horse thieves.

There are no revenue possibilities for the po-po to investigate and pursue property crimes, therefore they don't.

Now, traffic violations like seat belts, child safety seats, DWI, etc. - that's another story.

Plus those things provide the opportunity to incarcerate somebody.

No romance or adrenalin rush in property crimes.

15 posted on 06/14/2013 2:02:42 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: george76

The most cunning way to steal a car happened to my friend’s brand new Corvette about 25 years ago. Seems he got tickets to a Brown’s game from an “anonymous grateful patient”. While he attended the game they broke into his garage and flat bedded his car away.


16 posted on 06/14/2013 2:05:40 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: george76

Buy a car with a standard transmission.

Won’t stop a professional, but most people under 30 won’t be able to drive it.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 2:16:31 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Buy a car with a standard transmission. Won’t stop a professional, but most people under 30 won’t be able to drive it.”

This is so true in the city but not out in the farmland where kids learn to drive everything that has wheels by the time they are ten or so.

Interesting story in Houston paper not long ago about guy who tried to steal two different cars but couldn’t drive either because he “couldn’t figure out what that extra pedal was for and there was no D (for drive) on the panel”. Seems that he thought it was some kind of brake, pushed it in, stepped on the gas and lurched into the car parked in front of the one he was trying to steal.

Hard to find a car with a standard transmission any more. Great to drive in the snow and ice but horrible if you have to stop in the middle of a hill.


18 posted on 06/14/2013 2:30:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: george76

When seconds count the police are only minutes away.


19 posted on 06/14/2013 2:34:07 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

And shoot dogs and cats


20 posted on 06/14/2013 2:34:36 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: varmintman

Another reason to not support Hollyweird. The last movie I saw was the last Harry Potter. The second to last time I went to the theater was to see the previous Harry Potter. Same for the one before that.

Do thieves not think there might be people who are home?

They do much the same during funerals. They find out when the funeral is and rob the house thinking everyone will be at the church or gravesite. Leave someone at the house and cars parked in front.


21 posted on 06/14/2013 2:37:07 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: george76

Most thieves are basically lazy and do not know how to drive a stick shift.


22 posted on 06/14/2013 2:37:29 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: george76

Drive an ugly, old vehicle that they wouldn’t like. ;-)


23 posted on 06/14/2013 2:42:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Slyfox

I’m amazed at how many models still offer manual transmissions. Most subcompacts are easy to find with manuals, where they still yield extra mpgs. The family sedan category - Camry, Accord, Fusion, Altima, etc. - can still be found with manuals. Not many SUVs except Subarus though.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 2:46:21 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: george76

Car thieves are smarter than cops? No fooling? Remember that most cops belong to the Barney Fife and Bungle Corps.


25 posted on 06/14/2013 2:58:28 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: bgill

Another possibility is that the registration might have a VIN on it so a thief could simply order a spare set of keys from the factory and drive the car away without hotwiring it two weeks later.....


26 posted on 06/14/2013 3:20:54 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: jjotto

Land Rover Defender, Diesel. I have one in stick.

(I also live on a mountain and zero problem getting it in gear. May roll back for a sec. at a light.)


27 posted on 06/14/2013 3:27:38 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: varmintman

Your VIN is visible on your front window, right below where you typically see the registration/inspection stickers.


28 posted on 06/14/2013 3:28:27 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: IYAS9YAS

It is really hard to start modern cars without the keys. You can’t just hotwire them.
Of course, the darn keys cost $200 to replace or purchase a duplicate...


29 posted on 06/14/2013 3:33:43 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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To: Grams A
Hard to find a car with a standard transmission any more. Great to drive in the snow and ice but horrible if you have to stop in the middle of a hill.

All Shelby GT500's have standard transmissions. I have no trouble stopping on a hill. I just put it in neutral and keep my foot on the brake.

30 posted on 06/14/2013 3:43:18 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Easier to just use the clutch and accelerator if you are driving while wearing high heels!


31 posted on 06/14/2013 4:21:59 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Defender is, alas, no longer available in the USA, although there is persistent talk of its reintroduction.


32 posted on 06/14/2013 4:22:45 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SVTCobra03; Grams A
Hard to find a car with a standard transmission any more. Great to drive in the snow and ice but horrible if you have to stop in the middle of a hill.

All Shelby GT500's have standard transmissions. I have no trouble stopping on a hill. I just put it in neutral and keep my foot on the brake.

Why is it difficult to stop on a hill and why would you put it in neutral?

Oh and why does everyone act as if driving a stick is something new?

33 posted on 06/14/2013 5:09:56 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Grams A

“This is so true in the city but not out in the farmland where kids learn to drive everything that has wheels by the time they are ten or so.”

But those kids in the farmland are not the ones stealing cars.


34 posted on 06/14/2013 5:20:12 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

5-speed here. Sucks in bumper to bumper traffic, or the school p/u line ......

Sure is fun to drive though.


35 posted on 06/14/2013 5:29:49 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Inbred, pedophile-worshipping, misogynists (mozlums) offend me.)
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To: the_Watchman

The thieves break into the cars to steal registration and the garage door opener. They then proceed to the house to plunder the goodies.


so simple, even a caveman could do it...............


36 posted on 06/14/2013 5:33:15 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: lewislynn

I was quoting someone else who said it was difficult to stop on a hill and driving a stick comes naturally for me.


37 posted on 06/14/2013 5:38:43 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: lewislynn

Guess it depends on what generation you grew up in. My dad had a Hudson, if memory serves me correctly. Had push buttons. He just loved it - called it his hoopie.

My first driving experience at age 16 was a Ford Fairlane with column shift. Teaching me how to hold it in the middle of an ice covered hill going up without it sliding backwards or without peeling rubber all the way to the top and in traffic was an exercise my father certainly did not enjoy, particularly when I insisted on attempting it while wearing high heels. Probably wore out a couple of clutches before I finally developed the feel for how much to let the clutch out and how much pressure to put on the accelerator to get it right. My daddy surely had the patience of a saint.


38 posted on 06/14/2013 5:58:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: varmintman

Most newer cars are chipped and the keys have to be cloned. The dealer has to have the car and its computer to make a new key work.


39 posted on 06/14/2013 7:18:32 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: george76
Law enforcement agencies are stumped as to how they can prevent the auto break-ins.

The answer: Less DONUT breaks and more time on patrol. /s

40 posted on 06/14/2013 7:35:45 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: the_Watchman
The thieves break into the cars to steal registration and the garage door opener. They then proceed to the house to plunder the goodies.

I read of a variation of this. Guys go to a gym and hang around the lockers. When nobody is around, they break open the locker and steal the car keys. Then they go outside, press the magic button which lights up and identifies the car and drive off.

Glad I got the old manual type.

41 posted on 06/14/2013 7:44:35 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Grams A; SVTCobra03
Guess it depends on what generation you grew up in. My dad had a Hudson, if memory serves me correctly. Had push buttons. He just loved it - called it his hoopie.
My dad had a early 50's Studebaker convertible THAT HE CALLED HIS HOOPIE.

I also had Studebaker, a 56 with 3 spd on the column. It had a hill holder clutch. If you depressed the brake pedal with the clutch in it would hold the brakes untill you released the clutch. It worked great even on the hills of San Francisco.

42 posted on 06/14/2013 11:11:50 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: jjotto

Nah, you can import them via Canada all day long.

Takes a bit of paperwork and you do stupid crap like take the motor out then put it back in, but it’s easy enough to do.

I drive a 2011 Defender 110. (I also live on top of a fricken mountain and am under snow about 5 months out of the year, so I need it.)


43 posted on 06/15/2013 10:42:36 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Good info.

I know that Homeland Security has been trying to crack down on Defenders. Usually a newer Defender is claimed to be 25 years old and thus has fewer restrictions on importation.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/exclusive-feds-declare-war-on-black-market-land-rover-defenders/


44 posted on 06/15/2013 10:48:28 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Many many ways around this, none of which I want to post publically.

But if you take the vehicle apart, it’s not a vehicle anymore. And Defenders are 100% modular, so this is an easy, easy thing to do.

Just ship in pieces and re-assemble; register as a home built.


45 posted on 06/15/2013 10:59:47 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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