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Judge bans Fort Hood suspect’s ‘protecting Taliban’ defense strategy
The Washington Times ^ | June 14, 2013 | AP

Posted on 06/14/2013 3:24:35 PM PDT by jazusamo

FORT HOOD, Texas — A uniformed Army psychiatrist had no justification for gunning down U.S. troops and won’t be allowed to tell jurors that he was protecting Taliban leaders in Afghanistan, a military judge ruled Friday, appearing to clear the way for the Fort Hood murder trial to begin.

Maj. Nidal Hasan’s “defense of others” strategy fails as a matter of law, Col. Tara Osborn said during a 45-minute hearing. That strategy must show that a killing was necessary to prevent the immediate harm or death of others.

Osborn said no soldiers at the Texas Army post on Nov. 5, 2009, posed an imminent threat to anyone in Afghanistan and that the legitimacy of the Afghanistan war is not an issue at Hasan’s court-martial. She also ordered that Hasan not present any evidence or arguments about his claims that deploying U.S. troops posed an immediate threat to Taliban fighters.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; forthood; fthood; hasan; murder; murderer; nidal; nidalhasan; taliban; terrorism
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To: jazusamo

Did the judge order that his beard by hacked off with a dull knife, yet?


21 posted on 06/14/2013 3:43:08 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Ranger Warrior
This terrorist and murderer does not believe he falls under U.S. or UCMJ Law. His law is Sharia Law, and he will get up on his Islamonazi soapbox and turn this court martial into a mockery of our system.

Meet the next Attorney General of the United States.

22 posted on 06/14/2013 3:44:02 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: Monty22002
That's OK, they're still allowed, nay, encouraged, to commit jihad.
23 posted on 06/14/2013 3:45:02 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: DoughtyOne

He should be executed in the Islamo-fascist manner that he embraces, either a slow strangulation hanging, or a slow beheading, Daniel Berg-style.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 3:45:31 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Look at the families we have barely able to make ends meet, and this guy will eat away at millions of dollars to game our system of justice.

I just want him dead. I don’t much care how he gets there.

Where’s Jack Bauer when you need him?


25 posted on 06/14/2013 3:48:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: jazusamo

The judge and obama are going allah’s work.


26 posted on 06/14/2013 3:50:06 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SandRat

“Give him Judge Roy Bean Justice”

Give him the Judge Crater treatment. Gone without a trace.


27 posted on 06/14/2013 3:52:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
We could always see if the French would loan us use of the “French National Razor ( la Guillotine )” to give hin a real close shave.
28 posted on 06/14/2013 4:00:05 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: null and void
The ruling was legally correct. Defense of others is the same thing as self-defense, only saving the life of another person. He wasn't saving anyone's life. No taliban were in that room and if they had they they would not have been in danger from any of the people Hasan murdered. So, as a matter of law the defense fails and he can't waste the court's time with it.

He can still take the stand and admit to what he did and why he did it if he wants.

Bottom line is it doesn't matter because the Army's case is overwhelming, there were so many witnesses.

29 posted on 06/14/2013 4:18:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: jazusamo
Why is this guy still breathing?

He planned to, then killed a bunch of people for his god and his ideology, because he wanted to.

He likely derived pleasure for his acts of murder and terror on behalf of his causes and likely is enjoying prolonging this show trial for similar reasons.

All he is good for now is whatever public justice our system can wring out of him.

Send him to the final Judge and be done with it and him.

30 posted on 06/14/2013 4:26:30 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: jazusamo

“He should have been dead on the day this took place, I still don’t know why he was allowed to live.”

He was shot, multiple times I believe. He was given top-notch medical care and survived so he can have this circus trial, then hopefully, we will get to kill him.


31 posted on 06/14/2013 4:57:08 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: jazusamo

Yeah, he was just having a bad hair day that day. Move along. Nothing to see.


32 posted on 06/14/2013 4:58:04 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: jazusamo

He is still collecting a paycheck of American tax payer dollars, the families of the murdered and injured cannot collect for damaged and health care because it is classified as work place violence. This is how THIS government feels about its service men and women


33 posted on 06/14/2013 5:12:30 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: colorado tanker
The ruling was legally correct.

In a narrow sense, perhaps, but in a broader sense there is more than Hasan on trial. An unsuccessful defense based on the murderous tenets of islam would have a chilling effect on some future jihadists (spell check wanted to correct that to "sadists"!) and establish a cultural limit on that 'up with which we will not put'.

Repudiating islam as an excuse for mass murder has its own value, wouldn't you agree?

Or are you really afraid the court could find that it actually is?

34 posted on 06/14/2013 5:24:17 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: jazusamo

By using that as his defense, wouldn’t he be admitting to committing treason?


35 posted on 06/14/2013 5:47:32 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: jazusamo

Banning a defense strategy???

Really? I’m not allowed to any defense strategy I want? Really? I was unaware of this.

So the state dictates what you can offer as mitigation? I thought that is what juries are for.

Let me guess, he will be forced to use the “workplace violence” defense.


36 posted on 06/14/2013 5:56:52 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: jazusamo

jazusamo wrote: “He should have been dead on the day this took place, I still don’t know why he was allowed to live.”

The ‘first respondent’ was taking fire, and catching bullets, and did her damnedest, returning fire, but was succumbing to her wounds, to hit the heart of that Johnny Jihad. She managed to hit his spine, so give her some slack, please?


37 posted on 06/14/2013 7:18:16 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: jazusamo

that idiot judge !!!! eric holder’s goons are already on their way to arrest him ... led by that pathetic pos who runs the fbi ...


38 posted on 06/14/2013 7:20:13 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Piss upon Obama, and his False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Terry L Smith
I in no way disparaged that brave lady, she did her best.

There were many others there and one of them could have stood on Hasan’s throat while they bandaged him up to prevent further trauma.

39 posted on 06/14/2013 7:34:41 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
Maj. Nidal Hasan’s “defense of others” strategy fails as a matter of law, Col. Tara Osborn said during a 45-minute hearing...what exactly is the judge doing in telling this to the defendant - isn't it the jury's job to decide what is and isn't a valid defense - has the government determined that not only will they not recognize this as an act of terrorism, but they're going to make sure the terrorist isn't punished for his act.......
40 posted on 06/14/2013 9:39:12 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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