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Alert ! Video the Military Does NOT Want You To See !
Youtube ^ | 6/14/13 | Unknown

Posted on 06/14/2013 7:43:21 PM PDT by Iscool

This may be an older video (or may not) showing an IED explosion in the Middle East...While there is no 'blood and guts' per se, it pretty apparent what's happening...

How this explosion comes about is what is shocking...


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KEYWORDS: ied; obama; wot
Got to wonder how often this happens...
1 posted on 06/14/2013 7:43:21 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

What precipitates the detonation that is shocking?


2 posted on 06/14/2013 7:45:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Iscool

Yeah...I see a military vehicle and a kaboom...where is the shocking part?


3 posted on 06/14/2013 7:55:40 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Apparently the shocking part is that the drone that monitored this monitored the person who planted the IED 24 hours before.

But it’s a youtube video....so okay.


4 posted on 06/14/2013 7:57:51 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Iscool

This does not seem to be video from a drone. The POV is pretty constant, the the voice says that a day has elapsed, the timer confirms this, yet camera angles are similar. A flying drone might, I think, orbit around rather than hover.


5 posted on 06/14/2013 8:04:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Iscool

I wonder if that video is connected to Brandon Bryant?

He recalls watching helplessly as insurgents buried an IED in a road and a U.S. Humvee drove over it.

“We had no way to warn the troops,” he said. He later learned that three soldiers died.

(but this wasn’t a Humvee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=792cd1u_XQw


6 posted on 06/14/2013 8:17:10 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Iscool

Why is this in News/Activism? Methinks it belongs in Chat.


7 posted on 06/14/2013 8:23:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Would it be newsworthy if somebody important like an American Idol contestant was killed?


8 posted on 06/14/2013 8:29:54 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Gene Eric

What is shocking, at least to me and the fella doing the narration is that the IED was filmed by the drone 24 hours before the IED blew up a truck driven by American soldiers...

Like the narrator says, that explosion and dead Americans could have been prevented; stopped...


9 posted on 06/14/2013 8:54:58 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Windflier
What precipitates the detonation that is shocking?

You're a tough crowd...I apparently mistakenly thought Americans and especially FReepers would be concerned about this type of thing going on...

10 posted on 06/14/2013 8:58:19 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Wow! Thanks for description.


11 posted on 06/14/2013 9:20:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Iscool; Windflier

>> What precipitates the detonation that is shocking?

I wrote that hoping to get some details on the event without going to the youtube video. That’s all.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 9:21:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric; Iscool

Look at Stars and Stripes.

This maybe the same video a sensor operator shot for a Predator UAV.

He is deeply troubled that he was unable to do anything.


13 posted on 06/14/2013 9:25:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Iscool
You're a tough crowd...I apparently mistakenly thought Americans and especially FReepers would be concerned about this type of thing going on...

Don't be offended. Of course we care about American troops in harm's way. This just doesn't appear to be a news story. It's more on the order of a field report.

14 posted on 06/14/2013 9:27:13 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

>> He is deeply troubled that he was unable to do anything.

No doubt.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 9:32:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: BykrBayb
Would it be newsworthy if somebody important like an American Idol contestant was killed?

Still your outrage. America has been fighting wars since its inception, and the sacrifices of those millions is appreciated by all Freepers (including this Army brat).

Major battles are 'news' -- solitary skirmishes and engagements with the enemy are not. In fact, I hate the fact that our military guys have cameras and lawyers hovering over their every move in these recent wars.

The wet panty liberals and Commies in our gov't have put our service people at great risk, due to the suicidal ROEs and micromanaging of every bullet fired.

They send our guys off to fight, then tie their hands, while their ever-present minders watch for the slightest sign of a real warrior ethic. As soon as they spot it, they come down like a ton of bricks on guys who are between a rock and a hard place, and are just trying to keep their buddies alive.

Ask me, I wish we knew a lot LESS about what our guys do on their missions. Get the lawyers and the cameras off the battlefield and let them do what they're trained to do. If the scum sucking libtards in Washington can't do that, then bring them all home!

16 posted on 06/14/2013 9:38:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Iscool

Has this video been associated with an incident, as in do we know when and where it happened and if people were hurt? The reason I ask is that this seems to be some sort of exercise. The video is just too convenient. I’d like to know more before I jump to conclusions.

I have friends in the Marines who clear roads of IEDs.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 10:04:44 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
Copied this comment which appears to put some light on this incident. porkchop1948 12 hours ago I keep having to debunk this one. Please folks, ask someone who knows and has been there. The vehicle pictured at 1:28 is a IED search vehicle. It has obviously made a sweep and called it clear. Please, please stop saying things you know nothing about. The vehicle that ran over the IED is a Hemmitt. Undoubtedly the operators survived this attack. Also, no drone filmed it. More likely a photo blimp at a FOB, perhaps near FOB Liberty as those kind of walls are common in that area. ·
18 posted on 06/14/2013 10:58:26 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: rbmillerjr

Wouldn’t that be a HEMTT, porkchop1948?


19 posted on 06/14/2013 11:52:11 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Windflier

Appreciated, just not newsworthy, like rumors about the possible content of Glenn Beck’s next episode, or the latest ramblings from Jeb Bush about the fertility of immigrants.


20 posted on 06/15/2013 2:26:07 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
Appreciated, just not newsworthy, like rumors about the possible content of Glenn Beck’s next episode, or the latest ramblings from Jeb Bush about the fertility of immigrants.

Hmm....so you're upset. I get that. I don't completely disagree with you, and I'm not going to get on some high horse about anything I said. I think I was just stating an observation. It wasn't an editorial.

As bad as the regime is treating the citizens, they're treating those who protect and defend us even worse. Democrats always do. That's newsworthy, and makes me sick to my stomach. Members of my family have honorably served this country right back to the founding, so I'm not insensitive to this.

21 posted on 06/15/2013 2:54:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Damn right I’m upset. I’m sorry you happened along in the middle of it. I do disagree with your assessment that this is not news, but you aren’t really the reason I’m upset. Sorry I took it out on you.

My family has also fought for this nation since its founding, and before. And those sacrifices are being squandered. Hard won freedoms are being thrown away at exponential speed, by an uncaring, oblivious public. Scandal after scandal is coming to light with such regularity that events which would have brought down any other administration are now met with indifference.

I realize we have much bigger events the media should be highlighting, but the lives, safety and support of our military are still newsworthy. This is an important piece of the much bigger picture, but also important in its own right.

Yeah, I’m upset. And I don’t see an end to that anytime soon. Have a blessed day, and keep your powder dry.


22 posted on 06/15/2013 4:37:18 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

The video was obviously made by the bad guys. Also, the explosion takes place on the far side of the road, opposite of where the dude was pitching dirt.


23 posted on 06/15/2013 4:47:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

It’s obvious to me that the guy narrating it is the enemy, but it’s not obvious that the enemy created the video. Everything I’ve read or heard about it indicates it was recorded by one of our own drones. What do you know that indicates otherwise?

I can’t make out the specific location of the explosion. Are you suggesting the one we saw being planted was removed, and another one planted in nearly the same location, on the opposite side of the road?

I’ve read accounts that say there were no deaths or serious injuries. I hope that’s true.


24 posted on 06/15/2013 5:12:22 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Drones fly at 20-30 thousand feet. That shot was from roof top at low angle. The reticle was added later.


25 posted on 06/15/2013 5:14:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BykrBayb
I can’t make out the specific location of the explosion. Are you suggesting the one we saw being planted was removed, and another one planted in nearly the same location, on the opposite side of the road?

Yes that is possible.

26 posted on 06/15/2013 5:15:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BykrBayb

Moreover the one on the opposite side may have been planted months ago. Then the bad guys planted a new one opposite the old one to get “caught” on purpose. That new IED is removed and now the road in that area is declared “safe”. Then the old one is detonated and there you have it.


27 posted on 06/15/2013 5:18:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You mean when they find an IED and remove it, they don’t check the immediate area for more of them? I don’t believe that.


28 posted on 06/15/2013 5:23:23 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Iscool

Youtube says this video went up in March 2013


29 posted on 06/15/2013 5:42:02 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Iscool
The fact is, our surveillance, probably a fixed camera of some type, watched it be set, and then saw the explosion.

My guess is that that surveillance camera (mounted to whatever it was mounted to) is not monitored in real time. They got the video out of it after the fact.

We do have drones that are operated by personnel who see what they see as it happens, like in Benghazi. We have others mounted on vehicles or aircraft. But we also have those that are fixe and not monitored continuously. I suspect that that is what we have here.

It may have been transmitting to a remote site (and stored on a server), or it may have had local storage. but I believe this is one that the videop of the event was discovered after the fact.

My guess is, after it occurred and was reported that someone said, "We have a camera monitoring that areas," and they wnet to the server, got the video for that date, and then watched it, and then went back in time on that video until they found the tangos planting the bomb.

In this case, no need for a conspiracy, or a callous act by someone like Benghazi certainly was.

30 posted on 06/15/2013 6:56:51 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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In this case, no need for a conspiracy, or a callous act by someone like Benghazi certainly was.

No, I wasn't suggesting that...All I am saying is that sitting here in front of the screen, it only seems that someone, somewhere could have prevented this action...But your assessment could very well be right on the money...

31 posted on 06/15/2013 10:02:44 AM PDT by Iscool
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