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To: JustTheTruth

Politicians by tradition “triangulate” and play the “moderate’ to insure their re-election.

Bill Clinton was willing to go part of the way with Newt Gingrich in 1995 on his way to re-election in 1996.

That meant signing “welfare reform” legislation and the Defense of Marriage Act.

Jan Brewer thinks the right thing to do politically is to expand Medicaid.

You defend Brewer’s actions but many find it hard to support them because while you see a leader following the will of those who elected her I see a calculating politician just like I saw in Bill Clinton back in 1995.

Where do we end up at the end of the day when the politics of “the possible” or “triangulation” is used by our elected officials?

We end up further in the direction of bigger government, less freedom and a totalitarian state at this point in our nations history.

Chris Christie is playing this game big time now for his re-election along with Marco Rubio on immigration and so on........

I find it all thoroughly disgusting and I am reflecting on what the alternative is.

Maybe its some sort of resistance because it appears from history that movements involving resistance have the potential to change things to go the way you want them to go.

Politics as usual is moving this country in the wrong direction that’s for sure.

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To: Nextrush

Healthcare is the financial mess (and excess) it is today because of longstanding governmental involvement in controlling delivery, protecting franchises, dictating benefits, industry capture of regulators, limitations on innovation, etc.

In my opinion, our challenge in the years ahead - given massive unfunded liabilities for Medicare - and given the huge baby boomer cohort moving into retirement - is huge. We do need to move toward more market-based solutions at the state level where we can experiment, innovate and learn.

In making that transition in the direction of less govt and more market, we should not, in my view, just throw the poorest under the bus. We’ve made them dependent over decades, and just dropping their coverage when they are seriously ill seems wrong to me.

I have never seen a church willing to pick up major hospital costs; never. It is certainly not going to solve much of the problem even if a few churches were willing and able to do so ( and I love self dependence and private charity!)

Getting out of the Mega Welfare State without a collapse is not going to be easy, for sure... In the meantime, the financial system is stealing from the responsible saver class and dramatically subsidizing the speculator class through the Fed, the big banks, and easy money QE. Top that off with a corrupt executive, legislative and judicial government which has become a law unto itself, and it is hard to not be discouraged by it all.

“In the last days, men’s hearts will fail them... “ Yup!

44 posted on 06/15/2013 1:55:50 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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