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Vanity (Question): How do we reverse engineer the Federal Leviathan?
JSDude1 | 6/15/2013 | Me

Posted on 06/15/2013 10:40:21 AM PDT by JSDude1

Just a question to all Freepers: It is clear that the central planners for years have created this Federal Leviathan that is neither practical and is also restraining on our Constitutional rights. So my question is: How do we in essence (either through public relations, pulling the "right strings", changing laws to cause them to effect one another so as to reverse our large Government)?

How do we in essence reverse engineer the Federal Government and all the onerous laws? (This is a discussion thread): AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY DEFEATISM like "It can't be done".


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: corruption; federalbureaucracy; government; law; post2freedom; vanity
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Reguards, JJS
1 posted on 06/15/2013 10:40:21 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

I dunno. With the GOPe moving towards socialism, its pretty moot at the present time


2 posted on 06/15/2013 10:42:32 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JSDude1

massive tax revolt


3 posted on 06/15/2013 10:43:25 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: JSDude1

Let ObamaCare® fully implement and low wage earners and middle class will go nutz.


4 posted on 06/15/2013 10:45:08 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: JSDude1
The demoRats have move far left and the rePUBicals are moved to the left so I see the Tea Party as my Party.
5 posted on 06/15/2013 10:45:20 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: clintonh8r

You have to diminish the power of the corrupt media formerly known as the mainstream media


6 posted on 06/15/2013 10:45:42 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: JSDude1

Repeal the 16th and 24th Amendments. Make all personal taxes voluntary, but condition voting privileges on paying taxes.


7 posted on 06/15/2013 10:45:48 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: JSDude1

Fourth box. The Tree of Liberty needs a serious ‘watering’.


8 posted on 06/15/2013 10:46:45 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: JSDude1
By doing exactly as Benjamin Franklin recommended:


9 posted on 06/15/2013 10:48:46 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: JSDude1

You reverse engineer something when you want to make a copy of it. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to clone the government we’ve got now.


10 posted on 06/15/2013 10:49:46 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: JSDude1
starve the beast.
11 posted on 06/15/2013 10:49:50 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: JSDude1

Reverse Engineer? Why

It is time to DownSize DC by eliminating whole Rogue/Unconstitutional Departments.

Totally zero them out. Move any worthwhile functions back to the states.

Drain the Swamp, vacate 1/2 of DC. No one would miss it.


12 posted on 06/15/2013 10:50:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: 0.E.O

Because it works so well?


13 posted on 06/15/2013 10:51:17 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: oldbrowser

How do we do that?


14 posted on 06/15/2013 10:51:18 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Slyfox

Is that with or without “AMMOLAND”? LOL


15 posted on 06/15/2013 10:51:39 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: oblomov
Repeal the 16th and 24th Amendments. Make all personal taxes voluntary, but condition voting privileges on paying taxes.

You honestly think people will pay for the privilege of voting for the crap that runs for political office these days?

16 posted on 06/15/2013 10:53:40 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: JSDude1
Fear.

They must fear us to the point that they obey us. And by us, I mean the overwhelming majority of citizens as a whole.

They currently have no fear of any repercussions for their actions. That lack of fear has bred contempt.

IMO, it’s really that simple.

17 posted on 06/15/2013 10:57:17 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: JSDude1

Embrace the Lord like your eternal life depended upon it. (Which in fact it does... if you haven’t accepted the spirit of Jesus as your savior now and Lord to be, why not?)

Then ask God for help in ministering His wonderful love to the things in your life, which will include America unless you move away from it. Love corrects, but love also blesses.

If enough Christians do this, watch out! A miracle will happen.


18 posted on 06/15/2013 10:57:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: 0.E.O

Needless to say, if only a small group of taxpayers voted, the crap would be gone, and an entirely different slate of candidates would emerge.


19 posted on 06/15/2013 10:58:37 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Pox

And if this is the way God has appointed to fix things, a fear of the Lord will have to fall upon them. And there are many scenarios by which this could play out.


20 posted on 06/15/2013 10:59:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Pox

They do not fear us because the corrupt media formerly known as the mainstream media runs interference for them.

Squashing any negative news and promoting positive news.


21 posted on 06/15/2013 10:59:33 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: JSDude1

Voters need to make better choices for their leaders. If a board of directors of a large company made decisions to hire a CEO the same way American voters choose a CEO you would not expect good results, nor deserve them. Honest, qualified people know this, and it discourages them from running for elected office. I do not know the solution to this. Things like don’t let stupid people vote would never fly. But I think it will take something that radical to save us.


22 posted on 06/15/2013 11:01:13 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: JSDude1
As Al Gore reminded us, there is No Controlling Legal Authority that can resist the whims of Federal Government, let alone shrink it. To speak glibly of abolishing Amendments and jailing DC officials is just empty conversation. There is no entity strong enough to do any of those things, not even if every single Republican in the House agreed on a course of action.

The only solution is for the producers to Go Galt, en masse - and though it has already started to happen there is not a critical mass, yet. There are enough fascistically interconnected multinationals that retain enough monopoly power over creation and innovation that the government will not be hurting for revenues for a while yet, even if individual Hank Reardens begin to give up and vanish.

The only clear path to defeat for FedGov would be the rise of a foreign rival - which is probably not something most conservatives ever want to see. Nevertheless, it may be that the only way the country ever returns to sanity is for the DC regime and its bankster puppet masters to be weakened by immense, humiliating international military and economic reversals.

23 posted on 06/15/2013 11:02:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: joshua c

There are many thorny obstacles. God can also sweep them out of the way when and if He is good and ready. The spiritual root of salvation (in multiple senses) has to begin in us, planted by the Lord.


24 posted on 06/15/2013 11:04:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: JSDude1

Overturn Wickard v Filburn.


25 posted on 06/15/2013 11:04:47 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

That’s only one of myriad foolishnesses that the country would be better off without... but the biggest problem is that the country is stuck on itself. Half of America wants a proud socialist paradise. The other half of America wants a proud conservative regime. God, if He enters at all, is viewed as a facilitator that we salute, but in the end the story is all about us, not about Him. This present tangle is God’s way of saying ahem, ahem, ahem, world, the idea of self centeredness doesn’t work so well, how about basing your life upon a radical faith in Me?


26 posted on 06/15/2013 11:08:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: JSDude1

Do what the defenseless East Germans did to make their heavily armed government collapse. They sat in the streets and refused to go to work. Governments cannot survive without the work of the people and the income they provide. When the ruled refuse to be ruled, the jig is up.


27 posted on 06/15/2013 11:10:10 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>If enough Christians do this, watch out! A miracle will happen.>>>

Agreed. See my tagline.


28 posted on 06/15/2013 11:10:18 AM PDT by kitkat ( STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR NATION)
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To: JSDude1

Everybody could stop paying taxes.


29 posted on 06/15/2013 11:13:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: JSDude1
The following picture has nothing to do with the answer.


30 posted on 06/15/2013 11:13:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: JSDude1

Reverse engineer means to RECREATE by disassembling something to understand how it works. I don’t want to recreate this mess of a government. No way. We know how we got here. No need to analyze it further.


31 posted on 06/15/2013 11:15:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: JSDude1
Switch incentives. All decisions are made at the personal level... Current: the larger the department the more power.

Switch to: the smaller the department ( the more concentrated) the more power.

Switch pay from the more people supervised ‘the more pay’ to the fewer supervised ‘the more pay’... Social workers get massive bonuses based on how many people STOP NEEDING food stamps.. for a period of two years...

Legislators are given LARGE pay raises but for each billion allocated they lose a percentage OF THEIR OWN PAY. (We the citizens become the people with the largest bribe power... etc)

32 posted on 06/15/2013 11:15:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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To: clintonh8r

Yes Sir hit em where the money is!

That’s all it’s about anyway!


33 posted on 06/15/2013 11:15:21 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: 0.E.O; JSDude1

Retool would have been a better choice of words.


34 posted on 06/15/2013 11:15:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: JSDude1

“If you understand yourself and understand your opponents, in one hundred battles you will not be defeated.”
We still don’t understand our opponents.


35 posted on 06/15/2013 11:17:13 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What operating system does God use?


36 posted on 06/15/2013 11:17:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: JSDude1

I think we should put the Leviathon on a diet, make it get out in the open and get some fresh, some exercise, keep it off carbonated sugar drinks, restrict it’s access to illegal drugs and underage children, and pull down it’s pants and SPANK IT’s BIG ASS.


37 posted on 06/15/2013 11:18:29 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: kitkat

I think the tactically best prayers are those that seek to split the foolish powerful people of the land from their satanic power base. If, say, a spiritual wall suddenly went up between Barack Obama’s gang and hell, his regime would collapse overnight.

God is interested in still larger issues, though. A GOP ruled country that still thought it should be the center of attention, however many salutes it gave to God in the process, would be just as wicked, only wicked in a different way.


38 posted on 06/15/2013 11:18:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: tacticalogic

OS/Trinity!


39 posted on 06/15/2013 11:19:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: tacticalogic

Read Kevin Williamsons’ new book. He’s on c-span2 tonite to talk about it. 11pm EST.


40 posted on 06/15/2013 11:19:18 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Jeexzzz.... FRESH AIR.

my bad


41 posted on 06/15/2013 11:19:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: carriage_hill

Agreed. It’s way overdue, and nothing less will make any lasting difference.


42 posted on 06/15/2013 11:20:09 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: joshua c
They do not fear us because the corrupt media formerly known as the mainstream media runs interference for them.

Cancel your newspaper subscription, stop watching network news, mock the New York Times and Washington Post... Let them know they lack gravitas and credibility...

Our top MSM newspapers MISSED every major scandal but they can tell you the best wine to drink - and the coolest way to make coffee.

If newspapers had been as inane in the 60's they would have missed the civil rights movement and the war but told us about the best brown rice and what the term 'groovy' meant.

Let the MSM know they've become the punch line to a bad joke.

43 posted on 06/15/2013 11:20:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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To: JSDude1

Do away with tax withholding. If everyone had to write a check periodically, it would show just how much government costs.


44 posted on 06/15/2013 11:22:11 AM PDT by abb
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To: JSDude1

Repeal or ammend the 17th. The Senate is supposed to represent the state governments, it was not intended to be the House of Representatives, Elite Version.


45 posted on 06/15/2013 11:24:04 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: tacticalogic

Here’s how OS/Trinity works, no disrespect to God intended.

3 components:
Father.
Son.
Holy Spirit.

Work of Father: to receive and bless work of Son.
Work of Son: to execute work desired by the Father and present it to the Father. Includes salvation from sin.
Work of Holy Spirit: to facilitate all this.

Kernel: Love.

Manual: the Holy Bible.


46 posted on 06/15/2013 11:25:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: John Robinson

“Repeal or ammend the 17th. The Senate is supposed to represent the state governments, it was not intended to be the House of Representatives, Elite Version.”

Amen.


47 posted on 06/15/2013 11:26:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: JSDude1

“How do we reverse engineer the Federal Leviathan?”

It would be pretty easy. Just get several million people and give them way more power, guns, and money than anyone else and tell them to do whatever they want. Tell them that if anyone questions or challenges them, they can do whatever they want to that person.

Voila. You have reverse engineered the federal government.


48 posted on 06/15/2013 11:28:49 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The manual says to render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. Caesar looks to be due an ass kicking.


49 posted on 06/15/2013 11:30:20 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: JSDude1

It’s going to take one of the following:

- Total global financial collapse and the end of fiat currency followed by worldwide starvation

- Islamic nukes on DC

- Meteor strike


50 posted on 06/15/2013 11:31:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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