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White House Announces Strong Opposition to Religious Freedom in Military
The New American ^ | 15 June 2013 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 06/15/2013 4:41:35 PM PDT by VitacoreVision



The Obama administration announced that it "strongly objects" to an amendment in the National Defense bill that would protect the religious freedoms of America's military personnel.

White House Announces Strong Opposition to Religious Freedom in Military

The New American
15 June 2013

The Obama Administration has released a statement saying that it “strongly objects" to an amendment in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would protect the religious freedoms of men and women in the armed forces. The amendment (Section 530), offered by U.S. Representative John Fleming (R-La.), would specifically expand the “protection of rights of conscience of members of the Armed Forces and chaplains,” according to language in the amendment.

In its statement of objection the Obama Administration noted that the amendment "would require the Armed Forces to accommodate, except in cases of military necessity, 'actions and speech' reflecting the 'conscience, moral principles, or religious beliefs of the member.'" The White House complained that by “limiting the discretion of commanders to address potentially problematic speech and actions within their units, this provision would have a significant adverse effect on good order, discipline, morale, and mission accomplishment.”

Fleming insisted that the amendment is necessary to counter the increasing animosity toward religious freedom among military personnel. "The men and women who put their lives on the line to defend our freedoms should not have their own religious freedom jeopardized during their military service," the congressman said in a statement when he introduced the measure June 5. He emphasized that the amendment would help "ensure that men and women of faith will not be discriminated against in the Armed Forces and will be free to exercise their religious beliefs."

He noted that some armed forces personnel, "particularly chaplains, feel like their ability to execute their duties is being greatly limited by some of the policies and actions in the Pentagon." While "steps to protect the religious liberties of our Armed Forces were taken in last year's NDAA," Fleming recalled, "troubling reports indicate that the military may be focused only on protecting beliefs of service members, and not the exercise or expression of those beliefs."

Among the examples of such "troubling reports" over the past year was news that:

- Training material used by the Army Reserve had identified Protestant Christians, Catholics, and Orthodox Jews as "religious extremist" similar to al-Qaeda and Hamas.

- The U.S. Army blocked military personnel from accessing the website of the Southern Baptist Convention, citing unnamed "hostile content" on the site.

- The Defense Department confirmed that military personnel could face disciplinary action -- including court-martial -- for sharing their faith with others.

- Christian prayers were temporarily banned during funeral services for veterans at Houston's National Cemetery.

- Bibles were prohibited for a short time at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

- Crosses and a steeple were removed from a chapel in Afghanistan after military officials determined they were antagonistic to other religions.

Following the administration's statement of opposition to the measure, Fleming said that it appeared the president is attempting to block religious freedom among the troops. "With its statement, the White House is now endorsing military reprimands of members who keep a Bible on their desk or express a religious belief," he told Fox News. "This Administration is aggressively hostile towards religious beliefs that it deems to be politically incorrect."

Several conservative Christian policy groups responded to the White House statement, with Kellie Fiedorek, litigation counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom, arguing that the response demonstrates that President Obama clearly "opposes constitutional religious freedom for service men and women." Fiedorek called the response the "latest example of this administration's hostility toward religious service members. Antagonism toward people of faith -- namely Christians -- in the military is real, and it is disappointing that the President is unwilling to support laws that protect and defend the basic liberty of religious freedom."

Similarly, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council said President Obama's opposition to the amendment "reveals that this Administration has gone beyond accommodating the anti-Christian activists who want to remove any vestige of Christianity from the military, to aiding them by blocking this bipartisan measure."

Perkins observed that the the Fleming amendment "protects the right of service members to not only hold religious beliefs, but to act on them and freely practice those beliefs as long as they pose no threat to U.S. Constitutional liberties. This chilling suppression of religious freedom is driving faith underground in our military and will eventually drive it out. This not only deprives those who serve of the benefits that flow from religious participation, but it undermines the moral foundation of the world's most powerful military and the country they serve."


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1 posted on 06/15/2013 4:41:36 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

I bet they (he does) do...except for Mus... and atheists.


2 posted on 06/15/2013 4:42:55 PM PDT by madison10
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To: VitacoreVision

So, to serve in the military, one gives-up one’s natural and Constitutionally-protected rights?


3 posted on 06/15/2013 4:44:15 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: madison10

It looks like only Protestant Christians, Catholics, and Orthodox Jews are being targeted — you know —the “religious extremists.”


4 posted on 06/15/2013 4:45:36 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

White House Announces Strong Opposition to Religious Freedom


5 posted on 06/15/2013 4:46:00 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: VitacoreVision
Dear Democrats...

Defend this...Just remember, the Heavenly Father will have the last word.


6 posted on 06/15/2013 4:47:00 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: VitacoreVision

No need to object to things like this Mr. Obama. We know where you stand on such matters. Nothing is protected unless is relates to terrorism and your favorite group.


7 posted on 06/15/2013 4:47:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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The agenda to eradicate Christianity and the Constitution forges on.


8 posted on 06/15/2013 4:48:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Arm_Bears
So, to serve in the military, one gives-up one’s natural and Constitutionally-protected rights?

In Obama world, yes. It hurts me to do do, because i am a veteran, but I told my son not to plan on going into the military.

9 posted on 06/15/2013 4:54:44 PM PDT by Mark17 (My heart is in the Philippines, and soon I will be too.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Obama may think he has the last word on this subject, but the battle is already won and Obama and his Ilk will have eternity to think about it....


10 posted on 06/15/2013 4:58:17 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: madison10

Obama and his crowd are remarkably politically tone deaf. It is truly amazing they ever won an election ~ maybe that tells us how weak the candidates foisted on us by the GOP-e have been.


11 posted on 06/15/2013 5:00:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: VitacoreVision

I believe it might be simpler to put it this way: President You Didn’t Build That and the rest of the “progressive” oligarchy are vehemently opposed to American freedom—period.


12 posted on 06/15/2013 5:02:19 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: VitacoreVision

This white house is strongly opposed to ANY FREEDOM!


13 posted on 06/15/2013 5:05:08 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader
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To: VitacoreVision

Why should this surprize anyone ? What was the political party that took over the White House ? At their last convention to show they took over didn’t they deny a place for God ? Even booed the name ? That’s what you should expect when they hyphenated into Demo-Coms.


14 posted on 06/15/2013 5:07:36 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: VitacoreVision

While many on here contend that Obozo is a Muslim, I have always considered him an atheist.
When he was first elected, there was, as with every new POTUS, the question as to what church the family would attend.
To my knowledge, he has attended no church at all.
We all know that Ruvrund Wrong’s joint was nothing more then a temple of hate.


15 posted on 06/15/2013 5:10:58 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: VitacoreVision

16 posted on 06/15/2013 5:12:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: VitacoreVision

This is the same type of “logic” used by DHS, telling us that as soon as we enter an airport we no longer have constitutional rights.


17 posted on 06/15/2013 5:15:33 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: VitacoreVision

Mooslims excepted, of course.


18 posted on 06/15/2013 5:17:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: VitacoreVision

“... “limiting the discretion of commanders to address potentially problematic speech and actions within their units, this provision would have a significant adverse effect on good order, discipline, morale, and mission accomplishment.”

1. The speech and actions referenced have been part and
parcel of American military since our founding as a nation
and our military has been unusually successful in mission
accomplishment.

2. During that same length of time, homosexuality was
regarded as having the stated negative effects.

3. Which could be considered more problematic?


19 posted on 06/15/2013 5:21:10 PM PDT by odawg
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To: VitacoreVision

obam and his followers are going to suffer for their decisions. God our Father is not amused.

Maybe the skinny little muslim tyrant in the WH would like to tell us why Major Hassan gets to pray 5 times a day and why they would not FORCE HIM to shave his beard!! I guess under the obama tyranny only muslims have rights.

It’s okay, our Lord will have the last word. I heard Saint Peter is oiling the trap door hinges.


20 posted on 06/15/2013 5:22:11 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: mardi59

It’s no longer god and country. It is now Democrat and atheist.


21 posted on 06/15/2013 5:26:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: VitacoreVision; All
Yep, this sorry excuse for a president and CinC goes after religious freedom in the military but supports the below.

This is sickening, a sanctioned "meet and greet" for the LGBT crowd:

LGBT military families celebrate historic event

22 posted on 06/15/2013 5:27:41 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: darkwing104

You think the dyed-in-the-wool democrat believes in a Heavenly Father?

If they did they would immediately leave the party.


23 posted on 06/15/2013 5:41:12 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: VitacoreVision; All

If I didn’t know that this thread was about Obama, it reminds me of Mike Weinstein. I wonder how many times Mr. Weinstein has visited the WH, if any.

Note that if Congress was really serious about this amendment, as opposed to incumbents supporting possibly doomed amendment to campaign for 2014 elections, then the Constitution’s Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I indicates that Congress can override presidential veto with enough votes.


24 posted on 06/15/2013 5:54:45 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Newbomb Turk

Obama doesn’t know GOD. Reagan knew GOD.

Obama is going to learn who GOD is. Unfortunately, it will be a wrath upon us all.


25 posted on 06/15/2013 6:16:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: VitacoreVision

Hey Barry Soetero, you squalid little poofter, I hear you’ve got carriers offshore covering your travels to some west african sh*thole. Be careful Barry, most of those tailhook drivers are God fearing types. They probably aren’t happy with some little faggot [like you] telling them they can’t pray. Catch my drift, down low with Barry O??


26 posted on 06/15/2013 6:32:04 PM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: VitacoreVision

- The Defense Department confirmed that military personnel could face disciplinary action — including court-martial — for sharing their faith with others.
Unbelievable! what about fort hood shooting Was that faith
based also?


27 posted on 06/15/2013 6:34:30 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: muawiyah

It also tells us how stupid, even some well educated professionals are, who would say things like “ I am not going to read any articles about Obama...I am going to listen to the debates and then decide”...yep a dentist said that....and voted for 0bama.
So many limited information voters are responsible for the mess we are in as well.


28 posted on 06/15/2013 9:16:24 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: VitacoreVision

this thing in the White House is not a Christian. He hates Christians.

What Christian wears a ring imscribed with the first part of the muslim credo “There is no God but Allah”? No Christian would wear such a ring. Obama does.


29 posted on 06/15/2013 10:31:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: VitacoreVision

We are without a doubt in the End Times, before the Rapture and then the seven years Tribulation. If things are this bad now, it’s unimaginable how evil the times will be during the Tribulation.


30 posted on 06/15/2013 10:39:07 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Mark17

Oh, it is so hard but I did the same with my nephew.

I served in the Navy, as did my father and grandfather. It would have been a continuation of a family tradition, but because of Obama he has decided otherwise. Wise choice.


31 posted on 06/16/2013 2:11:44 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: darkwing104

“Defend this...Just remember, the Heavenly Father will have the last word.”

In their twisted minds, liberals believe he just did when he stated his opposition to freedom of religion in the military. Their concept of “god” is.... different.


32 posted on 06/16/2013 2:40:52 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Mark17

I did the same thing with two nephews of mine. I think way too highly of them to see them enter a four-year commitment into what is now a social Petri dish.


33 posted on 06/16/2013 2:43:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Muslims excuded, thier protected by the constitution of the United States


34 posted on 06/16/2013 4:39:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; txradioguy; beachn4fun; StarCMC; Lady Jag; laurenmarlowe; tomkow6; GodBlessUSA; ...

Canteen ping list.


35 posted on 06/16/2013 6:12:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

36 posted on 06/16/2013 11:11:45 AM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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