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Cornyn caving on border-security fight
The Hill ^ | 06/14/13 05:00 AM ET | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 06/15/2013 9:13:10 PM PDT by man_in_tx

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) is the big prize in the quest for more than 70 votes for immigration reform, but the Gang of Eight is split over whether he’s worth wooing. Watch the video here.

Cornyn told Republican colleagues at a meeting Wednesday that he would consider making changes to his amendment to bolster the border-security provisions of the Senate bill.

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(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; caving; johncornyn; perfidy; texas
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I do not trust the source (The Hill), but -- I admit -- I suspect this is true.

If so, ... Thank you for the knife in the back, John. /sarc

1 posted on 06/15/2013 9:13:10 PM PDT by man_in_tx
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To: man_in_tx

Didn’t you just know he would?


2 posted on 06/15/2013 9:17:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: man_in_tx

He was leading the charge for Shamnesty I. I don’t know who would think he’d be different now.


3 posted on 06/15/2013 9:19:23 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: man_in_tx

Cornyn is right up there with Lindsay Graham in senators up for re-election in 2014 who need to be primary challenged.


4 posted on 06/15/2013 9:19:58 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: man_in_tx

“bolster border security measures in the Senate bill”. What a joke! There already are innumerable “border security measures” encoded in existing Federal laws. What good are they or any new law if the Administration ignores them or willfully chooses not to enforce them? Illegals will keep coming here as long as there is miserable poverty on one side and hope and wealth on the other.


5 posted on 06/15/2013 9:22:48 PM PDT by allendale
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To: man_in_tx

Over 90 percent of the GOP elected officials are phony RINO’s-business as usual politicians.

Many cover themselves with NO votes on bad bills that pass anyway to fake out the folks back home.


6 posted on 06/15/2013 9:28:18 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: man_in_tx; Liz; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”Cornyn told Republican colleagues at a meeting Wednesday that he would consider making changes to his amendment to bolster the border-security provisions of the Senate bill.
His willingness to negotiate left some Republicans convinced after the meeting that he would strike a deal with the Gang of Eight and vote for final passage. His support would help the legislation pass overwhelmingly.
Republican members on the Gang of Eight think he is a gettable vote, even though they acknowledge some of their Democratic colleagues are skeptical. Democrats strongly doubt Cornyn will vote “yes,” given his past record of opposing immigration reform plans.
“What I’m hoping is that we can negotiate with Sen. Cornyn to the point where we can get an agreement. We continue to talk,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a leader of the gang.
Cornyn said he’s willing to modify proposal but will not concede on what he calls its “fundamental substance.”

Amnesty drama in the Senate ping!

7 posted on 06/15/2013 9:28:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: man_in_tx

We have millions of illegals because our government refuses to enforce the border. That is not complicated. Why did they allow this to happen. If they say they spy on us for our security, yet leave the borders unchecked so anyone can enter who may plot against us. Now, who are they kidding. The NSA files are Big Brother. These people in charge look at the U.S. constitution as a living document. Shredding the 4th Amendment proves that to me.


8 posted on 06/15/2013 9:29:18 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

Shredding the 4th Amendment proves that to me....

and by not protecting the border for our safety.

(sorry cut my sentence off too quickly)


9 posted on 06/15/2013 9:32:05 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: sickoflibs
...to bolster the border-security provisions of the Senate bill.

No worries, the Dems can make even bigger promises, that they will ignore, or the judges in their pockets will simply toss. Add bolster on top of bolster, it means nothing. (And, the Dems know this, does not Mister Cornyn?)

I wish I could say something positivec (please correct me if I'm in error); however, Cornyn appears to be a completely controllable fool.

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10 posted on 06/15/2013 9:36:04 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

positivec = positive (I’m pretty positive)


11 posted on 06/15/2013 9:38:54 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: man_in_tx

Fresh from her gun humiliation, Boxer said she would try to have act apply the ‘fines’ the illegals will purportedly pay—to their medical care.
So any revenue generated won’t go to plugging the holes these rats used.

They don’t have any intention of addressing border security. After they get their amnesty, it’s back to SNAFU. This is a joke.


12 posted on 06/15/2013 9:39:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: man_in_tx

[[Cornyn caving on border-security fight]]

Of course- Are there ANy leaders with enough backbone to actually stand for conservative values anymore?


13 posted on 06/15/2013 9:46:12 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: man_in_tx

It is John’s nature, he is not “one of us” he is “one of them.”


14 posted on 06/15/2013 9:49:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: man_in_tx

They say our immigration policy is broken.....BROKEN? When you don’t enforce the LAW, it cannot work properly. ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS!!!! Holder, you have no conscience. You are the problem!!


15 posted on 06/15/2013 9:50:54 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Christie at the beach

you cant have a north american union if the usa has an effective, working border security system.


16 posted on 06/15/2013 9:59:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: man_in_tx

Cornyn, we know what the hell is going on...you can drop the act.

Here’s the plan...

What’s going to happen in the next few weeks, possibly by July 4th, the Senate will pass the amnesty bill.
At the same time the House is going to pass a Trojan horse bill that will sound good and that will secure the borders.
The problem with that is
they’re both going to be sent to conference committee,
where amnesty is going to be added to the Trojan horse bill.
The Senate will vote yes on final passage and send it to the House.
Led by Nancy Pelosi, the House Democrats will ALL vote for the bill
because it will assure permanent Democratic political majority,
and a few Republican committee chairs will provide the final votes needed for passage.
That way the president will have amnesty for illegals
and the country will be fast-tracked to permanent progressivism.

Contact your congresscritters and let them know YOU know. Alert all the people you can to do the same.


17 posted on 06/15/2013 10:25:01 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

DAMN!
I forgot to say “Hell-o gubmint! Hope you enjoy reading and filing my post... Eat Shiite!)


18 posted on 06/15/2013 10:26:18 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: man_in_tx

the end-game here is that perhaps even the most loyal conservative republicans will finally realize that if/when this amnesty is passed (with all the fake kabuki theater playing out amongst the GOP leadership), there will be no point in supporting the national republican party. that you may as well declare a voter strike against republican leadership that has no interest in representing you. that and the red states will be forced to defend their state borders. the choice for red states will be between survival and reverse-assimilation at that point. they will restore a measure of security at their state borders, hopefully, join the blue states. it will also inspire nacent cooperation and cohesion in the red states. red state borders, will become the new, soverign borders of America. fortunately many red states are contiguous and adjacent.

in the leftist blue states, it’ll be every faction for itself (e.g., islamists vs mexicans, etc).


19 posted on 06/15/2013 10:29:31 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

should read “or join” not join.


20 posted on 06/15/2013 10:31:20 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Mortrey

> That way the president will have amnesty for illegals
and the country will be fast-tracked to permanent progressivism.

And bankruptcy for all citizens and the government...


22 posted on 06/15/2013 10:50:59 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: man_in_tx

Maybe Cornyn likes the sound of the name, “Traitorcornyn,” which will be his if he betrays his country by his vote.


23 posted on 06/16/2013 4:49:14 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Red Steel

Please do not post the rest of the article in a comment.


24 posted on 06/16/2013 5:38:17 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

FR (Website software) does not screen “The Hill” for exception. Apparently, the poster decided to do it voluntarily. Unless FR decided ‘very recently’ to excerpt the Hill, but has not change the software to reflect it. And if that was the case, we would see a history change to the article above by a moderator. Have a good day.


25 posted on 06/16/2013 6:30:03 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: man_in_tx

Cornyn... I guess you forgot that KBH retired because her RINO stripes made her un-reelectable. Be stupid at your own peril. We Texans are watching.


26 posted on 06/16/2013 6:38:58 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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Not unexpected! Another KBH

Thank the Lord for Sen. Ted (Cruz)

Not real happy with my senator...’mr. form letter’


27 posted on 06/16/2013 9:17:55 AM PDT by V K Lee
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To: sickoflibs; man_in_tx; Liz; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; Gilbo_3; NFHale; DoughtyOne; ...
Cornyn told Republican colleagues at a meeting Wednesday that he would consider making changes to his amendment to bolster the border-security provisions of the Senate bill.

Either Cornyn, or (it's not a direct quote) the author of this article did a poor job of communicating. Does that mean:

1) He wants to make changes to an amendment that was supposed to "bolster the border-security provisions of the Senate bill" to make it more pleasing (i. e. by weakening it) to the Chuck Schumer GOP gang (McCain etc.)?

2) He wants to make changes in it "to bolster the border-security provisions of the Senate bill?" I, like most of you no doubt, don't trust Cornyn, but in the bizarro world of the senate, Cornyn's attempt to look like a border hawk to some Texas voters might result in a "poison pill."

I know that, no matter if the bill says it will stop 100% of illegal immigration for 1000 years before the "trigger" for path-to-citizenship, Obama (and perhaps the next GOP POTUS if that ever happens again) would find a way to confer citizenship anyway.

Obama's EO would read, I am issuing this order to honor [SIC] the intent of the Comrehensive XXXXXX Act of 2013....

However, before "see you at the signing" (as GWB said about the 2007 amnesty), come the votes in congress. The Dems + the "Chuck Schumer GOP" are very paranoid about poison bills in the amnesty bill. LINK: "It’s a poison pill," McCain said of the Cornyn plan. "Hopefully we can have an alternative that satisfies some of the concerns without killing the bill. … It’s not possible for us to support his amendment as it is presently written because it is a poison pill."

Note that the title of that article I just linked is " The Cornyn-Rubio amendment effectively eliminates pathway to citizenship "

28 posted on 06/16/2013 2:11:55 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Oops forgot to add your name


29 posted on 06/16/2013 2:16:53 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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It looks like it is a poison pill after all because Rubio is trying to work out a compromise to it to keep Dems happy.
30 posted on 06/16/2013 7:00:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne
It looks like it is a poison pill after all because Rubio is trying to work out a compromise to it to keep Dems happy.

I voted for Cornyn after he helped to kill the 2007 amnesty, but, say, in the last 3 years, he has been making disturbing statements about immigration (Like taunting Obama for not pushing "immigration reform").

I hope Cornyn will do the right thing, but "He who sups with the Devil should have a long spoon."

31 posted on 06/16/2013 7:44:20 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: man_in_tx

Wrote his office a bit ago and told him we are watching this immigration bill very closely.

Told him to vote against this bill.

I’ve never trusted this guy.


32 posted on 06/16/2013 7:46:08 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I think you and I would agree, that there is simply no need for a new bill. We have all the laws on the books today, to handle the situation.

Anyone wanting this bill, telegraphs right up front that they want Amnesty for the illegals. They can parse it any way they like, but amnesty and increased flow of legals from North and Central America is what this bill will provide.

Nothing even remotely positive will come out of this. NOTHING!


33 posted on 06/16/2013 7:48:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: Christie at the beach
>>We have millions of illegals because our government refuses to enforce the border. That is not complicated. Why did they allow this to happen<<

I know this sounds crazy, but I believe there is a globalist agenda. Perhaps the integration of the Americas. I dunno, but what other explanation is there?

Trans-Texas corridor, Mexican trucker pilot program, open borders, lax immigration enforcement, push for amnesty in 1984, again in Jorge Bush's admin, now again.

Import poverty...kill the middle class. Not exactly sure why, but the evidence is here, now and real.

34 posted on 06/16/2013 7:52:04 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

I’ve never trusted this guy.

//////////////////

Second the motion. Or, at least not for several years now.


35 posted on 06/16/2013 9:23:09 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: DoughtyOne
Nothing even remotely positive will come out of this. NOTHING!

Correct, and this is based not on our prejudices, but on what happened after the 1986 amnesty passed. I have spent some time south of the border, and I think many good people live there, but when they vote here, most vote for very evil people.

But now the lurch to the left will be more extreme. Importing 10s of millions of leftist voters portends more Obama-type presidencies, with aggressively partisan IRS, DOJ, DHS, etc. etc.

36 posted on 06/16/2013 10:51:36 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I completely agree. If someone can’t see the problems with this, they simply don’t have the mental faculties to project for themselves where this leads us as a nation.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 6:00:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: sickoflibs; man_in_tx; Liz; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...

” Cornyn said he’s willing to modify proposal but will not concede on what he calls its “fundamental substance.”

LOL....reminds me of GHW Bush’s “revenue enhancers”


38 posted on 06/17/2013 10:38:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: man_in_tx

Time to email/call/fax all US Senators and House members. Here’s a sample letter.

Dear Honorable US Senator ...,

Sir, I am extremely upset with this latest sham amnesty immigration bill the US Senate is currently debating.

Words cannot express my anger at the utter foolishness of this bill. Rewarding criminal behavior encourages more criminal behavior. People cannot begin their careers in America by breaking the law. Further, it hurts minimum wage American workers by causing them to compete with millions of foreign workers. by I am dismayed at those in Congress who lack the understanding of this critical issue to our nation.

I along with most other Americans are in favor of legal immigration for those who are willing to learn our language, culture, and invest the time and money required to become a U.S. citizen - but not for those who willfully break on our laws, spit on our country, demand benefits, and are not willing to go through proper channels to become an American citizen.

What is the solution? It won’t be easy because we didn’t get into this situation overnight. I believe we need to do the following immediately:

1) Secure our borders
2) Enforce existing law
3) Not allow any amnesty provisions of any kind
4) Improve our visa system
5) Prosecute and fine those businesses which knowingly employ illegal workers
6) Give law enforcement officials the necessary resources and authority to combat illegal immigration
7) Deport illegal aliens violating the law after being fingerprinted, photographed, iris scanned, charged with a felony, and their information placed in a national database.
8) Send a bill for deportation/prison costs to the embassy of the illegal immigrant’s national origin.
9) 2nd time and thereafter repeat offenses by illegal aliens should be sent to work prison camps for a maximum of 6 months - building the southern fence/wall.
10) Seize and liquidate all assets from illegal aliens and use the proceeds for our military and local law enforcement.
11) Must not give illegal immigrants government welfare benefits of any kind, including Social Security
12) Designate English as our national language
13) Change the 14th Amendment regarding birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants
14) Put pressure on the Mexican government and other nations to reduce illegal immigration to America.
15) Encourage only legal immigration and citizenship to for those wanting to become Americans.

These ENFORCED changes would strengthen America greatly.

Please consider voting against this terrible legislation when it comes before the Senate floor.

Sincerely and respectfully,


39 posted on 06/17/2013 10:41:27 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; man_in_tx; Liz; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; ...

Why would any of us think this guy wouldn’t sell us out?


40 posted on 06/17/2013 10:43:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”Why would any of us think this guy wouldn’t sell us out?

Bohners aids are saying he will stand firm on immigration,

Breaking: John Boehner won't back immigration bill without majority GOP support

Nothing to worry about with Bohner on the beat,. Man of steel nerves.

41 posted on 06/17/2013 10:48:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah, why would we?


42 posted on 06/17/2013 10:52:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne

” Bohners aids are saying he will stand firm on immigration,”

LOL....Boehner is as big a liar as Obama!


43 posted on 06/17/2013 11:34:43 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

They’re all frauds. They claim to be Republican and act like Democrats as long as they old the office.


44 posted on 06/17/2013 11:37:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: DoughtyOne

There is no longer an opposition party.

1) How can I get re-elected?

2) If I fail, how do I make a million a year as a lobbyist?


45 posted on 06/17/2013 11:40:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

What you do is put on your favorite shirt. You bat your eyelashes. You smile great big. You tell folks some things they want to hear. You go populist.

You become mayor of some podunk town. You get yourself on a state commission. You shoot your mouth off and claim you’ve done the people’s work.

You run for governor. You serve at least half a term. Then you hope and pray a terrible candidate will come along that very few people would vote for, and they need you because nobody knows you and you can be just about anything you want to be, and folks will love you.

Of course you lose, because you can’t polish a road-apple, and just because folks thought you were nice, it didn’t mean they’d overlook the top spot on your ticket.

Then the top spot on your ticket leaves a spot on the carpet, he endorses your opponent, things fall flat, and you get trounced.

He then lets his staff and family trash you, and he says you’re not ready for prime time. Your fan-boys/girls get angry and rally around you. And then the next year you endorse him, and folks just love you for it. You tell them how Conservative he is, which everyone knows isn’t true. What the heck, it doesn’t matter. He returns to Washington for Six years. Your fans say you didn’t have anything to do with that. Then they claim every other candidate they like that was elected to office, you made it possible.

Then you don’t have to worry about waiting for four or eight years. You go ahead and connect with millions of people. You make populist appearances. You say many great things. Then you reveal some of your policies in radio and television interviews, and you miss the mark by a mile.

None the less, people love you so much by now, that it really doesn’t matter what you say anymore.

Now you can sit back and relax, because they’ll donate to your campaign fund, and the great part about that, is you never have to run. You tell them you’re thinking thinking thinking thinking, they keep donating donating donating..., someone on your team says something to the effect that if people would donate, it would really show the candidate how much you wanted them to run. And then two days later you make a statement that you weren’t going to run, but thanks.

And then you’d position yourself to do it all over again before the next general election campaign season.

Pretty cool...

That’s pretty much how you do it.

Forget the lobbying thing. You don’t need to do that. That’s been proven.


46 posted on 06/17/2013 12:03:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well done!


47 posted on 06/17/2013 12:12:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

:^)


48 posted on 06/17/2013 2:11:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Reddon

Vitter, Sessions, Inhofe and Boozman should get involved and in the bid to primary him and endorse his opponent. Any deep red republican should go in there and primary him. Cornyn got involved with Murkowski.

I would bet the Republican primary voters in Texas support the patriot 15 more than Cornyn. Enzi or Sessions or any of these guys who will win 60% of the vote in the midterms should go in there to stop this amnesty bill leaving the senate.


49 posted on 06/17/2013 5:33:10 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: DoughtyOne

*crickets* : )


50 posted on 06/18/2013 9:16:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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