Skip to comments.Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 June 2013
Posted on 06/16/2013 4:50:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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We did that in Iraq.
I am heartened somewhat by the Turkey protests. THATS who we should be helping. Cause those protesting now are those who thought the new president would be a great guy except hes just more of the same.
Actually, Erdogan is not more of the same. He is trying to change Turkey into an Islamist state from a secular one. He is undermining the policies put in place by Ataturk, aka, Mustafa Kemal who founded the Turkish Republic in 1923.
In the years following 1926, Mustafa Kemal introduced a radical departure from previous reformations established by the Ottoman Empire. For the first time in history, Islamic law was separated from secular law, and restricted to matters of religion. Mustafa Kemal said
We must liberate our concepts of justice, our laws and our legal institutions from the bonds which, even though they are incompatible with the needs of our century, still hold a tight grip on us."
What we are seeing in Istanbul is a clash between Western oriented secularists versus Islamic fundamentalists. We should be supporting the demonstrators not Erdogan who wants to take Turkey backwards.
He stirred the entire Middle East pot with Egypt and Libya. He likely started the Syria riots expecting the same results and now he acts like he had nothing to do with it.
Again...the ring was offered to Putin...the guy asked for it back...simple. The guy’s an idiot taking the time of our Pres. over a ring....show’s clearly he has no grey matter between the ears.
Another immigration amnesty commercial on Fox. What could go wrong with basically making everyone in Mexico a voting American citizen?
Close the border and then worry about who is here.
Mitchell picked up her nasal problem on the casting couch. It’s backed up...well, something.
For those trying to dismiss what Snowden has said or knows, they should be very careful because Snowden has a treasure trove on his thumb drive that could be very damaging. And based on the story above, it appears that Snowden could tap into anyone's phone calls or internet conversations. This is more than just metadata, but also content and the targeting of individuals.
Agreed. The “ends justify the means” mentality can supersede laws and regulations. I don’t want such power in the hands of a few, unelected individuals. We saw such abuses under Hoover and now the IRS. There have to be institutional limits—not dependent on trust and “good men.”
This isn’t about Snowden, but do we want to lose our right to privacy for fear of terrorism? This is targeting everyone so you don’t have to profile Islam.
o The bill increases dramatically legal immigration adding between 30 million to 57 million permanent immigrants above current levels (14 million now) over a ten year period. Most of those added will be low skilled with kinship being more important than merit.
o The bill doubles the annual flow of guest workers. During the first year, 1.6 million more temporary workers than currently allowed. Thereafter, the bill would increase temporary workers by more than 600,000 over the current levels.
o A number of new categories of temporary workers were created. One allows 5,000 visas annually to the 30 countries the US has free trade agreements with. This is in addition to the H-1B visa level, which is also being almost tripled to 170,000 a year.
o Importing massive amounts of additional labor while 22 million Americans are looking for full time employment is insane. There will be a huge increase in unskilled labor to do the jobs Americans wont do, A patent lie, but now we bringing in a large increase in skilled labor to do jobs Americans cant do. Beam me up Scotty, the inmates have taken over the asylum.
Agreed. It is using a meat cleaver to do the job of a scalpel.
When you have no media to counter abuses by any administration the country is screwed. Whether the abuses be killing embassy officials in a foreign land,funneling arms to terrorists,abusing FISA laws or in this case the lack of investigation into known crimes. Without a fair and balanced media to report on what happens in an unbiased manner there is no need for govt. to fulfill their normal duties since there is no one to report they failed their country and their countrymen.
That's why what we do here is so important. We are the media of last resort.We report what the drivebys refuse to tell.If citizens want the truth they now get it from citizen journalists.We can not fail.The stakes are too high.
Posts #6 and 7 great stuff guys,we are controlled by an ever-biased media.
More bray brilliance this time in the printed word.
FR mail for ya.
I think that it is oddly a good thing that abuses occurred under both Bush & Obama - it might help some to see it is not a partisan issue.
I had a wonderful Fathers Day yesterday in Wey West getting to see The Man of Steel: Superman. One of the best I have ever seen.!
Reminded me just how bad we need leadership in the country and how desperate our side is for a:
Strangely enough, some of the people who are going to be hurt the most are low-skilled blacks.
If hillary comes out of the closet in her new book do you still see an easy win for her?—What party will the fat basturd from NJ run in?
That’s my take on how the NSA plays fast and loose with data, any data.
Its not the data per se but who is running the show.
Unfortunately, everything is a partisan issue. The Dems were decidedly against government snooping while Bush was in the WH (remember the “library card” fiasco?), but they are strongly in support of the snooping now that Obama is in the WH. Rep support has not experienced such wide shifts in approval, but it does depend on you politics as to how you view the issue.
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