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Obamaís Epic Intel Failure: FBI Knew Even Earlier Of Boston Jihadists
Freedom Outpost ^ | June 16, 2013 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 06/16/2013 11:41:04 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

So it wasn’t just strong warnings from Russia and Saudi Arabia, there were other red flags. And that wasn’t enough for the dhimmi FBI to spring into action. Because Obama scrubbed all references to jihad and Islam from counter terror materials, substituting the homicidal “outreach” approach in accordance with Islamic supremacist demands from Muslim Brotherhood groups like CAIR (and their lapdogs in the media like Spencer Ackerman).

All 263 families of the victims of the Boston jihad bombers should file multi-million dollar lawsuits against the Obama administration. Redirect some of the blood money he is handing over to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, the jihadists in Syria and Libya, Hamas in Gaza ….

“FBI knew earlier of Boston bombing suspect” By Josh Gerstein, Politico, June 15, 2013

Mueller acknowledges that Tsarnaev crossed the FBI’s radar prior to the Russian alert. | AP Photo By Josh Gersten, Politico, June 15, 2013

Deceased Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev came to the attention of the FBI on at least two occasions prior to a Russian government warning in March 2011 that said he appeared to be radicalizing, FBI Director Robert Mueller said in Congressional testimony this week.

The earlier references have led some lawmakers to question whether the FBI acted too quickly in closing an assessment of Tsarnaev’s potential ties to terrorism done in response to the Russian request.

In a little-noticed exchange before the House Judiciary Committee Thursday, Mueller acknowledged that the Russian alert was not the first time the elder Tsarnaev brother crossed the FBI’s radar.

“His name had come up in two other cases,” Mueller said in response to questions from Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa). “Those two other cases, the individuals had their cases closed. So, he was one or two person [sic] away.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; boston; bostonbombing; fastandfurious; fbibb; impeachnow; irs; threatmatrix
“My concern is how many terrorists are coming into the United States and are receiving asylum?…What’s the total number of others who might have come in under that same window?”
1 posted on 06/16/2013 11:41:04 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

They knew, and intentionally poo-pooed it.

This was not ignorance nor incompetence. It was intentional.


2 posted on 06/16/2013 11:43:28 AM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48
Our "government", run by al Qaeda after 911 Atrocities,
WORKED TO GIVE AMERICA THE BOSTON ATROCITIES, too.

They worked at it.

Systematically ignoring warnings.
Ignoring a missing passport.
Ignoring 3 beheaded Jews.
Ignoring, like with HASAN, obvious humint and sigint
THAT ISLAMIC DEATH WAS COMING TO AMERICAN INNOCENTS.


"Those who cannot remember the past
are condemned to repeat it
"
George Santayana

3 posted on 06/16/2013 11:46:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: EXCH54FE

If only they had been Catholic...


4 posted on 06/16/2013 11:52:07 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: EXCH54FE

If the NSA spy program is so damn effective, how could they possibly have missed this one?


5 posted on 06/16/2013 11:55:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: EXCH54FE
The bureaucrat measures their efficiency by how many cases are closed.
6 posted on 06/16/2013 11:58:17 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: EXCH54FE

He’s looking to stop political enemies, not terrorists.


7 posted on 06/16/2013 12:03:30 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: EXCH54FE

The Caliph believes the Tsarnaev’s are freedom fighters.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 12:08:19 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama lies, smokes, blasphemes, eats pork, reads your mail, eavesdrops and drinks during Ramadam)
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To: schm0e

If only they had been Catholic...


Or Tea Party. After all, it was Patriot’s Day in Beantown.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 12:08:26 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: EXCH54FE

They let it happen ... good way to practice for martial law


10 posted on 06/16/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: EXCH54FE

They KNEW about them..? They freaking RECRUITED them...!

None of the following factors in isolation proves ANYTHING. But taken as a WHOLE, what do they strongly suggest...? Put on your thinking cap:

1. The family was from Chechnya

2. They were all pretty secular —AT FIRST

3. Uncle was a CIA guy

4. Older bro gets into MMA

5. Older bro gets super religious, all of a sudden, starts talking crazy, visits MuzzieLand for some secret MuzziePowers.

6. Older bro recruits younger bro

THIS HAS **ROGUE CIA AGENT** WRITTEN ALL OVER IT....!

TO be convincing, you have to get really close to the enemy —you have to talk and think so much like them that you even convince yourself much more than 50%. That’s not only mission effectiveness —it’s also basic survival.

And some of them FLIP over to the OTHER side.

We wanted to cultivate a Chechnyan asset, and our guy flipped.


11 posted on 06/16/2013 12:16:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Fresh Wind
If the NSA spy program is so damn effective, how could they possibly have missed this one?

I think it's because they deliberately turned a blind eye to Mosques. They didn't start looking into Boston Mosques until several days after the bombing, and they skipped the one these terrorists went to entirely. So, they watch me and thee, but not the people most likely to commit terrorism. What can go wrong?

12 posted on 06/16/2013 12:16:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: MulberryDraw

Some liberals, after the 9/11 report was issued, blamed Bush for not preventing 9/11. Their evidence was the security briefing in Aug. 2001, in which Bush received a general warning that Bin Laden wanted to hijack airplanes.

So, liberals want to blame Bush for not connecting dots prior to 9/11, and specifically this generalized warning about Al Qaeda operatives allied with Bin Laden hijacking planes. Yet, these same liberals are not rushing to blame the Obama administration for not connecting dots with these Boston bombers, who were specifically in the sights of our intelligence operatives.


13 posted on 06/16/2013 12:17:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: digger48

100% agree. Recall, this is the same administration that was willing and eager to cause untold numbers of innocent deaths in Mexico to further its goals of gun confiscation in the US. So it’s not much of a leap to suspect a larger and more sinister goal behind the DOJ allowing the Tsarnaevs to proceed with their mass murder; something that would allow the WH to expand its power even more.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 12:17:29 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: gaijin

Consider further that one of the other suspects in Florida was killed in the field after interrogation in his apartment (and aboslutely controlled environment) for EIGHT HOURS.

AND that two FBI guys involved in some of the arrests had a “most unfortunate fast-roping accident”.

All the factors enumerated above and immediately above strongly suggest that OUR ASSET FLIPPED to the other side.

You’d have to be freaking *stupid* not to suspect it.


15 posted on 06/16/2013 12:19:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Or Tea Party. After all, it was Patriot’s Day in Beantown.

yeah. good thing nobody made a "rush to judgment", eh?

16 posted on 06/16/2013 12:20:03 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: EXCH54FE

Mueller .. Mueller .. Mueller!!!

FROM ABLE DANGER TO The Boston marathon and beyond .. who’s in charge? Dopey or Sleepy?


17 posted on 06/16/2013 12:20:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: gaijin

Our ELINT guys are locked into the silly claim that “Eh...yeah (banana peel sounde effect)...shucks we just MISSED all those Boston/Chechnaya ‘Allah Akbar’ calls...!”

Why? Cuz we cultivated an asset (and his little brother) and then the witting one WENT ROGUE.

My guess is that (for his own protection) l’il bro never knew that older bro had first started out as Uncle Sam’s asset.

ASSET WENT ROGUE

Less embarrassing to our guys if they claimed, “We missed this one”.


18 posted on 06/16/2013 12:23:43 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EXCH54FE
One name missing in all of this is Janet Napolitano.

It's her direction that has focused on white Christians as 'the real threat', and willfully blinded all of the police agencies to Muslim Jihadism.

NEVER forget that: Napolitano hates the America that her family came to long after it was established. Her talent is for hiding her true intentions.

Nothing could be worse for Americans that she is in charge of overseeing federal interior enforcement.

19 posted on 06/16/2013 12:26:10 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: digger48
I agree. If I were in intelligence and SERIOUS about combating Islamic terrorists and my Pres. and DOJ AG were issuing guidelines NOT TO MONITOR MUSLIMS, or STRIPPING REFERENCES TO 'ISLAM' FROM MILITARY MANUALS, my attitude would be "FINE. You want to coddle terrorists? FINE THEN. Here's your Boston Marathon, brought to you by 0bamadullah!! BOOM!!! The Boston Bombing was ALLOWED TO HAPPEN due to APATHY in our intelligence community or willful negligence resulting from 0bama's traitorous rules of engagement." An entire helicopter carrying nearly 20 SEALs was downed in Afghanistan for the same reason.
20 posted on 06/16/2013 12:32:01 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: EXCH54FE

Where is Rosy O’Donnell? Where is Michael Moore?


21 posted on 06/16/2013 12:32:47 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: EXCH54FE

22 posted on 06/16/2013 12:41:53 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: gaijin

From every incident of Islamic terrorism I have ever read about the Feds always knew beforehand what was up and did nothing to stop it.


23 posted on 06/16/2013 12:44:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: EXCH54FE
In the Boston Marathon bombing there were a lot of failures.

The reason that NYC has not had a terrorist event can be credited to the heightened vigilance of its population as well as extremely competent local authorities. Little credit goes to an out of control Big Brother more concerned about collecting and storing the data of the ninety-nine point nine per cent of the citizenry who are not terrorists.

What are the chances of someone driving around NYC or its suburban areas with a license plate of TERRORISTA on it, without being heavily watched?

One must not forget that Tsarneavs were supported by the social welfare state in the People's Republic of Massachusetts to the tune of six-figure amounts.

When our legal immigration program funds and harbors terrorists, why are we thinking of putting more people under its umbrella?

24 posted on 06/16/2013 12:48:13 PM PDT by metafugitive
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To: Fresh Wind

The NSA spy program is looking at the forest. Tsarnaev brothers and Nidal Hassan were individual trees, to be protected by political correctness.


25 posted on 06/16/2013 12:53:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: EXCH54FE
the Russian alert was not the first time the elder Tsarnaev brother crossed the FBI’s radar.

Yes, it was not:

Probably the FIRST time was when Uncle Ruslan suggested his nephews to his employer --the CIA-- as future Chechnyan assets for undercover infiltration of muzzie groups, the same way that McVeigh did pre-OKC, but among weird fringe right groups in the USA.

And then his asset value was confirmed after OlderBro accepted and set about establishing his InsaneMuzzie credentials.

How many times did his close friends tell us of his "very sudden and strong conversion"...?

I mean, first he's this big boozer/drinker party boy, and then there is this very huge and conspicuous turn to fundamentalism.

THE GUY WAS *WORKING*. Probably at that early point he had not yet been flipped --it probably came shortly before he traveled abroad, to meet with handlers.

Some say OBL's very own son was hanging around near the finish line, so...my guess is that at that final point the other side was pretty confident that at they'd reeled our guy in for the big Boston double-cross.

26 posted on 06/16/2013 12:58:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; AllAmericanGirl44; ConservativeMan55; crosslink; ...
In case you missed it.

Anyone wanting on or off this list...well, you know.

27 posted on 06/16/2013 1:19:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Our government is powerless to stop any terrorist attacks.


28 posted on 06/16/2013 1:22:13 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: EXCH54FE

Just like McVeigh. The Michigan militia reported McVeigh to the FBI as being too violent.


29 posted on 06/16/2013 1:23:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: gaijin
We wanted to cultivate a Chechnyan asset, and our guy flipped.

Or he played them all along.

30 posted on 06/16/2013 1:27:22 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Revolting cat!
The NSA is targeting American Citizens who are TEA party members and Christians who become Domestic Terrorists when they object to this Administrations refusal to take action against Muslim Terror.

The NSA surveillance was originally intended track Radical Muslim terrorists to protect Americans.

Now it tracks Americans and is forbidden to track Muslims and mosques.

In other words, we now spy on everyone except Radical Muslims.

This goes way past incompetence, in reality the tools we put in place to protect Americans have been turned against Americans and is being used to protect and shield our enemies

31 posted on 06/16/2013 1:28:25 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: EXCH54FE

32 posted on 06/16/2013 1:32:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: EXCH54FE
Tamerlan Tsarnaev came to the attention of the FBI on at least two occasions prior to a Russian government warning in March 2011 that said he appeared to be radicalizing, FBI Director Robert Mueller said in Congressional testimony this week.

Tamerlan was on the radar at least as early as 2010. It wasn't just Russia but Saudi Arabia also sending us warnings. There is also a Yemen connection. If he was on the US radar prior to ONE of Russia's warnings in 2011, then what was it if it wasn't terrorism, huh, Mueller? Here are some of my notes that I've gathered from various sites since the bombing:

2010 - Through social network monitoring in late 2010, Russian officials note ties between radical Tamerlan and William Plotnikov, a Russian born Canadian boxer, Islam convert and member of the terrorist organization Caucasus Emirate in Dagestan. Russia notified the US according to U.S. Rep. William Keating.

2011 - William Plotnikov gives Russian authorities Tamerlan’s name during an interrogation.

March 2011 - Russia intercepts calls between Mama and Tamerlan and possibly Dzhokhar and sends warning to FBI. Mama also on phone with someone in the Caucasus region of Russia who was/is on FBI list. U.S. Rep. William Keating verifies the March 2011 letter and that it contained a lot of details about Tamerlan including his birthday, telephone number, cellphone number, where he lived in Cambridge and info about his wife and child and the possibility that he might be considering changing names and info about mama including her Skype address. Keating says the Russians believed Tamerlan wanted to go to Palestine and engage in terrorist activities, but was unable to master the language.

Sept 2011 - Russia sends second warning, this time to CIA. At some point, US officials meet with family at their home and Tamerlan is defiant to them.

Oct 2011 - CIA puts Tamerlan and Mama on terrorist list.

Dec 2011 – Tamerlan attempted to go for a pilgrimage known as an Umrah to Mecca but that was the wrong time of year for such. Saudi Arabia denies Tamerlan access visa due to human intelligence developed independently from Russia in Yemen.

July 14, 2012 – Plotnikov is one of several insurgents killed in a battle with Russian security forces. Russia speculates Tamerlan may have been involved with Plotnikov and were searching for him.

July 17, 2012 - Tamerlan lands in US from Russian trip and has grown a full beard. Neighbors say a few weeks later he was clean shaven.

2012 – After Tamerlan returns, Saudi Arabia Ministry of Interior wrote a letter to warn US DHS “at the highest level” and Britain of concerns of a terroristic attack on an American city and specifically names Tamerlan and that US should inspect his mail for bomb making compontents. The joint warning also named three Pakistanis of interest to Britain. DHS and Caitlin Hayden, a spokesperson for the president’s National Security Council, deny any such warning. DHS then comes clean admitting the letter exists but because of “turf wars” between agencies, DHS may not have notified the WH.

33 posted on 06/16/2013 1:40:20 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: EXCH54FE

The problem is that the US already has an unstable population and we take in “refugees” from countries with a whole lot of terrorists. Why are Chechnyan refugees in the US at all? Same thing with Afghanis and Pakistanis etc residing in the US. They just shouldn’t be here and then the feds wouldn’t have to catch them.


34 posted on 06/16/2013 1:40:30 PM PDT by grania
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To: Diogenesis
See that woman with the dark hair, sunglasses, navy blue sweatshirt and shorts in your posted picture? See her in the pic below. How did she just so happen to be near white cap in both? She appears she is looking like she's going to turn and run down the same street as white cap. Does anyone know where Katerine was during the marathon?


35 posted on 06/16/2013 1:45:30 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: gaijin

Not 8 hours. His friend says on video it was 3.


36 posted on 06/16/2013 1:51:44 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Diogenesis

Refusing to Pledge Allegiance - and the idiots still vote for him.

They may live here and claim to be Americans, but they are traitors.


37 posted on 06/16/2013 2:14:00 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Do your really believe there is any difference between the Dems and Repubs?

Obama is openly planning on arming Al Qaeda in Syria & the Republicans complain he isn’t doing enough quickly enough.

The Democrat-Republican Party is an organization that controls our government.


38 posted on 06/16/2013 2:18:18 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: EXCH54FE; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; gaijin; Regulator; clamper1797; Diogenesis; bgill; ...

You guys are freaking me out. I've suspected/known this about 0traitor since Ft Hood on 11/5/09, and have been trying to connect the dots on so many things, and now the BM terrorist attack. You just did it for me, and it's finally making even more sense.

We are so infiltrated and compromised, at so many levels, that we may never recover, as a Nation. And we have 3½-yrs until we get rid of him. He and his marxist/commie/muslim terrorist cohorts can do a lot more damage in that timeframe.

39 posted on 06/16/2013 3:14:54 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: gaijin

Same thing with Elohim City, where German/USA/SPLC AGENT-in-place Andreas Streissmeir was IN CHARGE OF SECURITY. Not just a peripheral hanger-on, m’kay? Nope..!

He was a really trusted, EXTRA TURBO CRAZY guy, there —the government agent. In fact so much more crazy than average that many described him as an AGENT PROVOCATEUR.

But that’s not all, as they say: Much later it turned out that the whole spiritual founder and manager of Elohim also was...? You guessed it...!

A paid asset of the FBI...!

And OKC was intended to be just one part of PatCon, a huge program to infiltrate and neutralize ALL US “extremist groups”.

And it was a sting that went bad, since the final blast timetable for OKC was moved up suddenly.

So let’s recap:

1. Gov’t agents
2. Gov’t foreknowledge
3. Blast DOES go off, in the end

***DOES THAT SOUND FAMLIAR..?***


40 posted on 06/16/2013 3:29:00 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EXCH54FE

Maybe eventually Obama will make the wrong muslims angry.


41 posted on 06/16/2013 5:11:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: metafugitive

It amazes me someone can drive around with a TERRORISTA plate but a kid wears an NRA tee shirt to school and is looking at a year in jail. America is gone.


42 posted on 06/16/2013 5:16:45 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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