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1 posted on 06/16/2013 2:51:15 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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This could cause a big diplomatic scandal. It should, I mean, then again we all live in Spy states


2 posted on 06/16/2013 2:58:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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So, for all the FR imbeciles that think Snowden is a hero, this makes it abundantly obvious he’s just another America-hating Bradley Manning with a higher clearance, who grabbed a huge number of documents fairly indiscriminately, just like Manning.

The idea that he selectively grabbed just a few documents about internal US operations is clearly debunked. The Washington Post simply was really selective about what it published. The Guardian was selective in the beginning but now it’s clear that they’re going to dump most of the trove (and whatever they don’t print probably will end up on Wikileaks).

Article contains information about NSA intercept attempts against the Russian Foreign Minister’s communications, based on materials provided by Snowden.

This has NOTHING to do with the privacy of American citizens, and everything to do with what the NSA “should” be doing.

Though, blind worship of Russia by other imbeciles here might be so bad that now we think it’s terrible we’re spying on the Russians.


3 posted on 06/16/2013 3:01:12 PM PDT by Strategerist
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This one is just plain funny:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4970708/Secret-Service-tractors-protect-Obama-G8.html


16 posted on 06/16/2013 3:46:51 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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This latest case of US espionage in my book is very, very benign. I don’t object to this at all, in fact I welcome it very much.

However it seems to me that the inclusion of THIS in Snowden’s safety packet might not have necessarily reflected his political beliefs.

It was included out of an awareness that it would induce diplomatic damage.

My guess is that for political/safety leverage he would release it incrementally in a, “didn’t mind that punch? How about THIS one...?”-type manner.

I believe there are much more damaging revelations to come.


17 posted on 06/16/2013 3:47:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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It took FIVE people to write this article! That has to be a record.


21 posted on 06/16/2013 4:06:08 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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This included: • Setting up internet cafes where they used an email interception programme and key-logging software to spy on delegates' use of computers; • Penetrating the security on delegates' BlackBerrys to monitor their email messages and phone calls; • Supplying 45 analysts with a live round-the-clock summary of who was phoning who at the summit; • Targeting the Turkish finance minister and possibly 15 others in his party; • Receiving reports from an NSA attempt to eavesdrop on the Russian leader, Dmitry Medvedev, as his phone calls passed through satellite links to Moscow. One document refers to a tactic which was "used a lot in recent UK conference, eg G20". The tactic, which is identified by an internal codeword which the Guardian is not revealing, is defined in an internal glossary as "active collection against an email account that acquires mail messages without removing them from the remote server". A PowerPoint slide explains that this means "reading people's email before/as they do". The same document also refers to GCHQ, MI6 and others setting up internet cafes which "were able to extract key logging info, providing creds for delegates, meaning we have sustained intelligence options against them even after conference has finished". This appears to be a reference to acquiring delegates' online login details. Another document summarises a sustained campaign to penetrate South African computers, recording that they gained access to the network of their foreign ministry, "investigated phone lines used by High Commission in London" and "retrieved documents including briefings for South African delegates to G20 and G8 meetings". (South Africa is a member of the G20 group and has observer status at G8 meetings.)
23 posted on 06/16/2013 4:32:58 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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Like it or not, this what these agencies are supposed to do..


38 posted on 06/16/2013 5:48:11 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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use PGP or one-time-pads


41 posted on 06/16/2013 6:11:37 PM PDT by RockyTx
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Snowden was disappointed in Obama in that he bashed Bush about spying on Americans but then expanded the program.

Since it came out, Obama has tried to justify it and stay above the scandal. Snowden has been trashed and the left tries to discredit him and downplay the seriousness of the spying. Yet they attacked Bush relentlessly for less. But Snowden’s beef is with the president and he doesn’t plan on ever coming back to America to stand trial. Releasing this information hurts Obama.

Snowden will keep landing punches because Obama will keep ignoring him and the spying and the left will keep trying to fight Snowden.

I hope Snowden has audio of embarrassing conversations of famous people because that will wake up a few more people by personalizing the spying.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 12:50:26 AM PDT by Rad_J
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