Skip to comments.Dick Cheney on NSA surveillance program (full video of today's Fox News Sunday interview)
Posted on 06/16/2013 7:51:47 PM PDT by EveningStar
Video: interview - Part 1
Video: interview - Part 2
Article: Cheney defends NSA programs, says Snowden a 'traitor,' Obama 'lacks credibility'
You know what might have stopped 9/11, paying attention to the Phoenix memo. Or maybe not letting any ragheads into our country, or wondering why ragheads bought one way tickets and had no luggage.
F Dick Cheney.
Cheney is basically another New World Order man.
It just pi$$es me off to see Cheny flap his gums on this. I’m sorry, but I do not want my government spying on me. If that makes me a traitor too, then I guess I am one.
They can’t even do the job they’re supposed to do, and so they branch out to check up on me. I’ve a fairly decent record for a guy my age.
Now I’m treated like I’m a potential national threat.
Just what is the advantage of keeping your nose clean in this nation anyway?
Being a citizen sucks these days. Foreigners are all they rage and nobody gives a damn what they’re doing.
It just me this Tea Party sympathetic ‘terrorist’ that they’re worried about.
They followed the followed the terrorists that hit the world trade center in 930 They did nothing.
Dick Cheney’s one of the people I find trustworthy... thanks for posting this..
What do you expect from such a deep establishment guy?
I wish Wallace had asked Cheney how the IRS and Homeland targeting conservative Americans would make us less trusting of the NSA. If the NSA is run by the same types running the IRS and Homeland we have a right to be concerned.
It ain't fair and balanced when it comes to singing the praises of the surveillance state as this morning's Fox News Sunday is a case in point.
If Mr. Halliburton was bad enough,this morning's panel was absolutely putrid.
The panel was beyond belief. Karl Rove and Britt Hume were vying for who is the biggest elitist twit on planet earth.
Then they had Jane Margaret Lakes Harman who is vying with Feinstein as the most loyal Democratic defender of Big Brother.
Then they top that off with Juan Williams who may be the most liberal doofus in America, but defends Big Brother because he evidently has a man crush on Barry.
Dick Cheney is part of the ‘elite’ ruling class, for BIG Govt and he looks down on Sarah Palin and tea party efforts. He believes that the controlling tools for govt are primary to any concerns over individual freedoms. Wake up people !
I’m beginning to think that there isn’t a single politician, Pres. or anyone short of Jesus Christ Himself that will ever satisfy anyone on FR...and I’m certain were He in charge we’d still be reading all the negative remarks....anymore it’s endless on here.
What we want and what we get is never going to be remotely satisifying.....people still bad mouth Bush and Reagan for crying out loud!
Can hardly believe people are complaining about being spied on....my gosh it’s been going on for ever.....they’re just getting better at doing so...
It is clear we are beyond the Rubicon. Everything you write on this is being logged by the feds and will be used against us soon in a secret court. After a quick guilty verdict we will be led to a cattle car and taken to one of dickhead Cheney’s undisclosed locations. There we will be tortured, starved, some killed, rest enslaved. Our days are over we lost. This will be Nazi Germany times 100 but with so much control and manipulation by the gov controlled press that average citizens will never realize what is happening. Best thing s true constitutionalist can do is shut up, move to an island far away and enjoy their life as they see fit, free of any trackable devices such as phones or computers.
Dick Cheney is a neocon which is the new way of saying Rockefeller Republican as in liberal Republican.
The left leaning folks in the media consider any Republican to be a “conservative” so they gave Cheney the label even though I don’t think he deserves it.
One of the reasons we end up having to spy on all Americans to “stop terrorism” is because the authorities can’t target the obvious terror suspects because that would be “racial profiling.”
God forbid that we would target Muslims....”Islam is a religion of peace”-George W. Bush
Now, we have Bush/Cheney defending Obama’s NSA for violating the constitution. I guess they feel like it's ok too to update the constitution to spy on everybody. Many on TV say they were spying on us after Bush set up the Patriot Act. Obama, only went further. I am angry at all of them for not being lawful. I recall they told us it was not to spy on all of us and we the people should not worry because they go through a court for each person targeted.
->>One of the reasons we end up having to spy on all Americans to stop terrorism is because the authorities cant target the obvious terror suspects because that would be racial profiling.
Amen to you. I believe this too and it is the ultimate and profound truth of what is going on. We cant call the radical jihadists who they really are.
Agreed. Was sitting on the back steps tonight thinking just that and feeling betrayed by every single person in our gov’t. Can see leading to no good thing.Only God Himself can be trusted.
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I wish we would do more drilling and build more nuke plants. Then we could tell Saudi Arabia to piss off.
At least now we’re fracking and increasing our LNG production.
If you made the decision that we were at war after 911, and that justified every totalitarian program you initiated to protect our peace, why did you leave the southern border open ?
You are a liar sir !
That is exactly what he is. I find him barely human.
no longer trust any of them. Not one.
As the late Fred Honzberger of KDKA said “We have to pretend that we’re not looking for the people that we’re looking for”.
The problem is that the political elites have sold the country out.
Bush absolutely squandered his presidency and a brief majority in both houses.
Debt is growing out of control. The unemployment number is a big lie because SSI disability has been used to mask unemployment while lowering the worker participation rate.
Clowns like Rubio and Paul talk of a path to citizenship may be the noble thing to do, but there is nothing noble about a path to citizenship of over one thousand pages written by every Democratic special interest in the country.
Republicans are intellectually bankrupt. Romney gave a speech to accept the nomination in which he talked about how his daddy laid a rose at his mother's bedside every morning. The same daddy who was born in Mexico and was so dishonest or so stupid that he attempted to run for POTUS. Read Reagan's acceptance speeches, he loved his family just as much as Mittens but did not gush about them when accepting the nomination for the highest office in the free world. Mittens deserved every bit of ridicule that he received on this forum.
The elites of both parties deserve to be slammed and scorned, they have bankrupted the country and do not offer one new idea of how to get it back on track.
Fighting Tyranny by imposing even worse Tyranny is evil.
Doesn't anybody remember that America morphing into a Tyrannical police state is precisely one of the things we were trying to avoid when we began fighting the War On Terror?
Those who trade essential Liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither.
Maybe you don't give a sh!t about the Fourth Amendment. Maybe other Americans don't give a sh!t about the First, Second, Fifth, etc. Can't you see what's happening?
If we allow hysterical fear of terrorism to destroy our Bill Of Rights, we have already lost the War on Terror, because America isn't America any more.
It would be better to lose a dozen American cities to terrorist nukes than to become a totalitarian Police State and fundamentally destroy the Republic.
Huh? Are you serious? What is happening now is orders of magnitude worse than anything in the past.
We are quickly turning into a virtual police state --- IRS harassment, IRS-Obamacare, EPA unleased, DOJ ignoring the criminal left, NSA being transformed to an instrument of the Stasi by the President and his power lusting comrades.
You disgust me with your insulting comment. I strongly believe in our United States Constitution. This Marxist president is destroying the 4th Amendment..
Our Founders would be disgusted with your type -- an arrogant, elitist apologist for those who see to rule us with an iron fist...
You are no friend of Liberty.
Ok..Fine..Great...What do you want to do?
“They cant even do the job theyre supposed to do....”
How do you know that?
I agree. If Cheney truly believes this guy is a traitor, then under what circumstances can a person reveal government spy agency abuses and be sanctified for doing it?
Cheney is a fruit loop on this one IMO.
I ask myself that same question. When I do I have to ask myself a few other questions.
What am I complaining about? Is it justified?
I actually get this charge leveled at me. Aren’t you being too picky? Could anyone ever measure up for you? Don’t you dismiss folks too easily? Aren’t you too critical?
Since it’s fresh on my mind, I’ll address one of my deal breakers here, illegal immigration.
We have laws on our books. Our borders are supposed to be enforced. If we don’t enforce them, we’re essentially a “free for all” nation. It’s all up for grabs for anyone who wants to venture over our border and take advantage of our system.
Can we allow anyone who wants to come here illegally to do so? Is the “American Dream” something we can’t deny anyone no matter what? Should terrorists be able to mingle in with these people, come in and kill as many as they can? Is there a need to control our borders, conduct these matters in a rational methodical method? For me the answer is yes. In fact this is a must.
So when a politician comes along and announces they will grant amnesty or a pathway because they feel sympathy for the illegal, they are also saying they don’t have any concern that terrorists may be in the mix. They are saying they don’t care if our nation is changed forever. They are saying that the good citizens who live by the law and expect others to, are stupid gullible morons who could have done better in life if they didn’t live by the rules.
This is a corrosive, contemptible, mindset, that of capitulating to people who have no respect for us whatsoever. By coming here they have displayed a complete disregard for us. They may also be displaying the fist step in killing off many of us. They most certainly are displaying the attitude they should be able to live off of us, sending their families to our medical centers for free services. They expect to get schooling for free. Many of them don’t pay any taxes at all.
The citizens of this nation are nothing but stooges, if these people can come here, mooch off of us, and in more instances than I care to think about, they actually vote for Democrats who will assist them.
Any government figure who plays into this, is betraying the good citizens of our nation. In a climate where 40 million people are out of work, they actually want to make sure tens of millions of illegals can work here. That is a complete betrayal of citizens. It displays more compassion for aliens than for citizens.
So am I being too picky here? Terrorism, job displacement, theft of government services... when does it end. If we don’t stop it now, when do we?
I don’t ask much.
I ask the government to regulate itself, use good judgment.
I ask the same of myself. Is it too much to ask the government to do the same?
If I’m going to live within my means, shouldn’t the government?
If I must live by rules, shouldn’t the government?
If I must follow rules, should the citizen of other nations be held to account to our rules?
Is this too much to ask? I don’t think so. I don’t think you think so either. So are we being too picky? No. I honestly don’t think so.
We are witnessing a complete collapse of moral integrity.
Does this mean that we should simply accept it, join in and move on? No. We need to call them on it. We need to demand more of these people.
The alternative is to live in a corrupt, police state, where we are the targets of anyone who wants to abuse us.
Don’t advocate for that.
The Boston bombing...
All this spying on people, and it doesn’t even work.
He ran the CFR
“I never mentioned that when running for re-election back in Wyoming.”
So Why do they string us along?????
We object loud and clear and it's acknowledged, often in agreement, but generally stops there other than many meetings...talk talk talk...and it's in that talking the entire issues we are concerned about are ‘molded into something they are not’.
I do believe we ARE now a “free for all” nation....how can it be anything else when our borders have not been, aren't now, and never will be secured....Additionally we are a “lawless” nation because our laws are not enforced with the idea of bringing justice and security...rather they are abused and used to secure “deals”...and this at all levels.
Our laws are simply “guidelines” immigration workers, lawyers, courts etc. use as a “point of reference’ with the idea of how to work around them for the desired end.
Mexico has a huge conglomerate of Attorneys etc. here to defend illegals...bought and paid for by the Mexican Gov. This too is insanity.
So how come this continues? How come they aren't battling for what the people want?
I believe it's because they are operating hand in hand with the Global Agenda which unites Canada, Mexico and the US as one political/trading block...with “Open borders” in order to maximize all three countries on the International Stage....with “One World Governance” over all blocks worldwide now being established.
This is the only reason I can see ....and in the midst of Globalization, politicians are trying to do this with the least opposition from the American people...so they throw us bones and twisted verbal statements just as a parent sticks a pacifier into the mouth of a child.
We want our Independence as a nation...they do not....the decisions being made today are with the Global Agenda in mind by our politicians....not with us as a people.
<......”I strongly believe in our United States Constitution”.....>
Of course...we as citizens all do...but it’s clear that our ‘politicians are NOT operating from that perspective’, though they frequently give lip service to it when it’s what they know we need to hear....but enforcing it is not happening......Why?.... That question needs to be answered.
The fact is ‘O’ and his administration has the wheel. They won...so of course they are going to push their agenda and we knew that they would....
....The other fact is our Representitives are doing precious little to push back and in fact agreeing with that agenda in far to many areas....again.... Why?
As for spying....good grief ALL Governments Worldwide have been doing this for eons...we know it and so do they. And equally as much citizens have been spied on...You don’t think this should be so...most don’t..but you cannot go anywhere today without being followed.
Security cameras are everywhere..from the streets into most buildings ....Every purchase is known and paints a picture of who you are the moment you use a credit card or open a bank account....You get gas they can tell where you’ve been....you order Am*o they know you have a g*n. You buy groceries...they know what you eat....look at your receipt..it lists everything!...and the lists of “tracking” go on and on.
Soo....in comes the Internet and technology and people knew the Internet is NOT secure..... All know that anything you put there is in full view of the World wide audiance....and certainly any within the NSR ..FBI etc. You’re WILLINGLY GIVING THAT INFORMATION TO ANY WHO WANT IT. Read some of those site agreements people are so quick to check...
I choose BTW to overlook your insults....we are all upset that the reality of how our nation is run, what they are doing to our nation,..IS heartbreaking and making many of us angry..........but I see or hear anybody with the answer on ‘how’ to stop this....let alone the ability and resources to do so.........We lost our privacy long ago.
Well, that’s as good a reason as I can come up with. I don’t know what else to attribute it to.
We can search and search for the answers but I believe the truth will always now be a masked hidden agenda...because this nation is ‘willing’ to believe a lie and ripe for it.
I also think the reasons things are happening so quickly is because though technology has equipped the Gov. to do what they are doing...but it also equips us to find the truth...so they have to move quickly.
Unfortunately we are “hearing” what they are doing after the fact...and they are already ahead to the next by the time we have details...then the discussions, shock, investigations etc. follow...but they are already ahead of the game...this just occupies us and gives them time to move on their current trajectory...we are always bringing up the rear.
There you go....
Bush and Cheney had all the goods on Obama in 2007. They could have stopped an avowed enemy but did not do so.
Spoke with a friend of mine ,out of state, last night. She is just beginning to come to grips with the fact our nations leaders are operating on a different platue then where we are.....and it isn’t about us...rather the Global Agenda moving fast now.
Her bank just had a major employees shift...some fired others let go without specific reasons. Others moved to different positions etc. She was livid for the ‘unfairness’ of it all.
Trying to explain to her that jobs etc. are no longer determined as we once knew.. was difficult...the thinking decisions , and actions today are not based on the “system” we have known....further trying to explain the Global Banking systems agenda and getting Banks positioned for that means they will be looking for people based on “other” requirements then the ability to do the job well or history of...and people will be “moved” from being in one position for very long.
So yes, Worldwide leaders, governments, companies etc. all that’s a part of the Globalist Agenda..will move with co-operation or without it. And there is nothing to stop it now....short of God ‘s intervention but I believe He’s allowing all this for what is to come.
Dick Cheneys one of the people I find trustworthy... thanks for posting this..
At one time I also trusted him. No longer. He’s a big New World Order promoter.
“....Then were essentially a free for all nation. Its all up for grabs for anyone who wants to venture over our border and take advantage of our system....”
Rings true again...
“The U.S. Supreme Court threw out an Arizona law that required evidence of citizenship when people register to vote, in a victory for minority-rights advocates and the Obama administration”..
So lets just let all those visitng our nation come to the polls..might just as well let the world vote in our elections.
Maybe Cheney is afraid they would see the photos where the real reason for his heart trouble is evident.
I still have a copy somewhere.
Shakes head. I hear ya...
I don’t watch Fox News but my mother, in early stage of dementia, does. Now I know why she is so negative on Snowden’s reveal. She takes everything she watches on fox as gospel.
Can hardly believe people are complaining about being spied on....my gosh its been going on for ever.....theyre just getting better at doing so...
Either the constitution is real or it is a joke. I believe in the constitution because it is based on inherent, Gd-given rights of a people to SELF GOVERN. We must have recourse against unwarranted intrusion / spying on us. The statist way n ow is that we do not have any recourse.
It’s like we are being raped, and you tell me, shut up and take it; people have been raped for centuries!
Even the Founders knew we might have to refresh the roots on the tree of liberty with patriot blood every so often. Maybe 300 years is when freedom needs redoing.
You want them to honor what it says...do you really think they care how we see it? Our Constitution is up for bid and used like a coin toss....that's the reality...it's no long OURS... it's their bartering tool.
“The Boston bombing...
All this spying on people, and it doesnt even work.”
Perfection is now the standard? Interesting.
And I still am waiting for an answer to the simple question...What do people want to do?
Always a good idea to keep an eye on what the boys and girls in DC are up too, but as of right now I don’t have any huge major problems with this program.
Libertarians/Civil Liberty type need to answer this question...as soon as they get done ranting and raving.
Valin, if there’s an ongoing investigation and it’s time critical, I’m all for opening up lines and listening all they want. I’m even okay with after the fact documentation supplied to a court to obtain a post action validation for the intrusion.
I am not willing to allow the government to listen to 316 million of us on a routine basis.
That kind of comprehensive data access can lead to abuses you and I haven’t even thought of.
We already suspect people are being blackmailed. Imagine the Clinton crew or the Obama crew with 100% access to any of the information the NSA has accumulated.
Man, no way...
Hillary would be on that like flies on cr_p.
It’s called the Fourth Amendment.
Guess you either never heard of it or don’t give a damn.
caww is what you call a “willful slave.”
The “willful slave” can sometimes be identified by its rallying cry: “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”