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Which bathroom should transgendered students use?
dailycaller.com ^ | 6-16-2013 | Robby Soave

Posted on 06/17/2013 5:48:34 AM PDT by servo1969

Maine’s highest court will soon decide which restroom Nicole Maines, a 15-year-old transgendered student, should use.

Last week the state supreme court heard oral arguments about whether a school district violated her civil rights when it forbid her from using the girl’s restroom. She was in fifth grade at the time.

Maines is biologically male but has identified as female since she was very young. As such, she wished to use the girl’s restroom. State law, however, mandates that boys and girls use separate facilities. Her school told her to use the staff restroom instead.

These requirements violate the Maine Human Rights Act, which bars gender discrimination in schools, claim the Maines family and their supporters, including the Maine Human Rights Commission and various LGBT groups.

“At the core of this case is whether the promise of equal educational opportunities for transgender students is realized,” said Jennifer Levi, director of the Transgender Rights Project for the Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, in a statement.

Maines said that she felt singled out and embarrassed because of the restroom policy.

“I hope they understood how important it is for students to be able to go to school and get an education and have fun and make friends, and not have to worry about being bullied by students or administration, and be accepted for who they are,” she said in a statement.

Maines enjoys the full support of her family, including her twin brother, who is not transgendered.

Her father was hopeful that the court would side with them.

“It has been extremely difficult, but I’m pleased to be here and to have our case heard, and I’m very hopeful for a good outcome,” said Wayne Maines in a statement.

The state supreme court is the next step for the Maines family, who lost in superior court earlier this year. The court sided with district administrators, who maintain that they are only upholding state law. To properly resolve the restroom issue for trangendered students, legislative action is required, they argued.

Reconciling transgendered students with school policies has become a thorny issue as of late. The family of a transgendered first-grader in Colorado is also suing the school district over restroom usage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: arth; bathroom; homosexualagenda; maine; moralabsolutes; pedophiles; restroom; school; sodomhusseinobama; transgendered
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Oh for...
Stop writing this way!
I don't care how HE dresses or how HE wears his hair!
HE is not a SHE!
Stop reporting and writing as if HIS being a female is an established fact.
This kind of writing drives me nuts and everybody does it.
You can't even read about this crap without being subtly programmed to accept the premiss that HE is a girl!

Here - let me show you how it should be written if you actually care about the facts of life:

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Maine’s highest court will soon decide which restroom Nicole Maines, a 15-year-old transgendered student, should use.

Last week the state supreme court heard oral arguments about whether a school district violated HIS civil rights when it forbid HIM from using the girl’s restroom. HE was in fifth grade at the time.

Maines is biologically male but has identified as female since HE was very young. As such, HE wished to use the girl’s restroom. State law, however, mandates that boys and girls use separate facilities. HIS school told HIM to use the staff restroom instead.

These requirements violate the Maine Human Rights Act, which bars gender discrimination in schools, claim the Maines family and their supporters, including the Maine Human Rights Commission and various LGBT groups.

“At the core of this case is whether the promise of equal educational opportunities for transgender students is realized,” said Jennifer Levi, director of the Transgender Rights Project for the Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, in a statement.

Maines said that HE felt singled out and embarrassed because of the restroom policy.

“I hope they understood how important it is for students to be able to go to school and get an education and have fun and make friends, and not have to worry about being bullied by students or administration, and be accepted for who they are,” HE said in a statement.

Maines enjoys the full support of HIS family, including HIS twin brother, who is not transgendered.

HIS father was hopeful that the court would side with them.

“It has been extremely difficult, but I’m pleased to be here and to have our case heard, and I’m very hopeful for a good outcome,” said Wayne Maines in a statement.

The state supreme court is the next step for the Maines family, who lost in superior court earlier this year. The court sided with district administrators, who maintain that they are only upholding state law. To properly resolve the restroom issue for trangendered students, legislative action is required, they argued.

Reconciling transgendered students with school policies has become a thorny issue as of late. The family of a transgendered first-grader in Colorado is also suing the school district over restroom usage.

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THERE! Is that so hard?

1 posted on 06/17/2013 5:48:34 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
"Which bathroom should transgendered students use?

The one in the psychiatric ward....

2 posted on 06/17/2013 5:49:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: servo1969

Seems like it should be required to put urinals in ladies rooms under AWDA.

Compassion and all that.


3 posted on 06/17/2013 5:50:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: circlecity

” The one in the psychiatric ward”.

BTT!!


4 posted on 06/17/2013 5:52:05 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: circlecity

> The one in the psychiatric ward....

Best answer to an insane question.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 5:52:08 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: servo1969

Since bathrooms are all about the plumbing, the question answers itself...


6 posted on 06/17/2013 5:52:43 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: servo1969

the bottom draw in the principals office


7 posted on 06/17/2013 5:52:51 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: sickoflibs

If he/she has a penis he/she must use the penis room. If he/she has a vagina he/she must use the vagina room. Not a question of gender at all, just biology.


8 posted on 06/17/2013 5:53:34 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: servo1969

The left, since Genesis 3, understands that if they manipulate the language, they have won 90% of the battle.

Push back is good.


9 posted on 06/17/2013 5:53:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969


Maines said that HE felt singled out and embarrassed because of the restroom policy.

Yeah. Being batshi!t crazy has always had a tendency to single a person out.
10 posted on 06/17/2013 5:55:13 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
The crazy people only bathroom.

11 posted on 06/17/2013 5:55:54 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: servo1969

If I identify myself as a millionaire will that make me one? Awwwww! Not fair. /whine


12 posted on 06/17/2013 5:56:38 AM PDT by lysie
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To: servo1969

The quad.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 5:57:52 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: servo1969

The outhouse?


14 posted on 06/17/2013 5:59:40 AM PDT by ne1410s (Proverbs 17:7 Eloquent lips are unsuited to a godless fool - how much worse lying lips to a ruler!)
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To: servo1969

that’s freaky, she really does look like a boy, even has an adams apple, while her (I’m guessing identical twin) actually is quite pretty.


15 posted on 06/17/2013 5:59:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: servo1969
Which bathroom should transgendered students use?

the one out back behind the tree.

16 posted on 06/17/2013 6:00:07 AM PDT by SilverMine (IF the US gøvt says it is a lie.)
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To: servo1969
The question it irrelevant to parents who actually care for their children as other than an unavoidable chore or a fashion accessory. Those parents who do care something for their children have them in private or parochial schools or they home school them.

If you care seven a little bit about your children as actual human beings and desire them to grow up with appreciation for freedom and history, not to mention 3Rs then you will not have them in public school in the first place. Were it 20 years ago you could sensibly have the delusion that you could improve your local schools and low information parents could in good conscience consign their children to them. That is not the case now and it will be worse tomorrow.

17 posted on 06/17/2013 6:00:28 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: servo1969

Make them wear diapers so they can sh%% and pi&& their pants and match their infantile mentality.

Why should REAL boys or girls be forced to deal with this BS!?


18 posted on 06/17/2013 6:01:05 AM PDT by albie
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To: servo1969

What’s to stop a straight boy from claiming to be “transgendered” for the sole purpose of gaining access to the girls’ restroom or locker room?


19 posted on 06/17/2013 6:01:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Yosemitest
The crazy people only bathroom.

It wouldn't cost *that* much to add a Crazy People bathroom to all public facilities ...

20 posted on 06/17/2013 6:03:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Does Bill have a job yet?)
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To: servo1969

Fine.
Let’s stop putting MEN, WOMEN, BOYS and GIRLS on restroom doors because apparently we’ve raised a generation of people for whom that’s too vague.
How about a door that says “PENISES” and a door that says “VAGINAS”?
Would that be clear enough?


21 posted on 06/17/2013 6:04:39 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: TexasFreeper2009

#15

They are twin brothers.


22 posted on 06/17/2013 6:06:15 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

[“I hope they understood how important it is for students to be able to go to school and get an education and have fun and make friends, and not have to worry about being bullied by students or administration, and be accepted for who they are,” she said in a statement.]

We were hoping that after attending school for quite some years, you would be smart enough to know the difference between a penis and a vagina.

I guess the schools really are failing their students.


23 posted on 06/17/2013 6:07:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: circlecity

Once again

it’s not that hard

those with hoses use the mens’

those with no hose use the ladies’

there, does that solve it?


24 posted on 06/17/2013 6:07:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: servo1969

Unless he has had the operation he is not transgendered, just a wannabe.


25 posted on 06/17/2013 6:08:21 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: servo1969

I dont think that is clear enough- you need one that says
“XX Chromosomes” and “XY Chromosomes”

Until we all go for the new trendy unisex bathrooms that are all the rage- so your teenage daughtgers can be in the same bathrooms as high-school boys!

Won’t that be fun?


26 posted on 06/17/2013 6:09:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: servo1969
Which one is Nicole ?


27 posted on 06/17/2013 6:09:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: servo1969

No such thing as transgendered, so the question is invalid.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 6:10:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Your post makes perfect sense. I have a very hard time with this “identifies as a female” concept. What does it meant to “identify” as a particular gender? You have the parts you have. If “identify” has something to do with who you are attracted to, we have terms for that: heterosexual and homosexual. Since we are not supposed to have any preconceptions about how a boy or a girl are “supposed” to act, I don’t see how this concept of “identifying” as one gender or the other works.

Can anyone help me? I don’t think I am as stupid as this issue makes me feel.


29 posted on 06/17/2013 6:11:07 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: servo1969

The one at home.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 6:12:25 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: servo1969
Which bathroom should transgendered students use?

The ones in a loony bin.

31 posted on 06/17/2013 6:13:27 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: yldstrk

I'm still confused.

32 posted on 06/17/2013 6:13:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969

It’s really pretty simple: If you have a penis, uses the restrooms for males. If you have a vagina, use the one for females.

People used to be a lot smarter.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 6:15:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: MrB

what Dr Suess book is that from?


34 posted on 06/17/2013 6:15:35 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: servo1969

lol

good point


35 posted on 06/17/2013 6:16:50 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Fox in Socks


36 posted on 06/17/2013 6:19:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Never read that one, but love Suess


37 posted on 06/17/2013 6:21:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mr. K

and the filthy boys pee all over the place, the floor, the seat, I hate using a shared bathroom


38 posted on 06/17/2013 6:22:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NCLaw441

#29

Right.
I might decide to ‘identify’ as head of lettuce but that doesn’t mean I get to use the crisper drawer.


39 posted on 06/17/2013 6:22:28 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: yldstrk

Oh, it’s a dangerous one... says so at the front.

I was at a poetry/prose reading the other night and a young lady (a nanny) got up and read the whole thing at top speed - nearly impossible, actually. She was resoundingly cheered upon completion.


40 posted on 06/17/2013 6:24:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969
The transgendered students' bathroom, of course.

Have separate bathroom facilities for all DIY/homemade-gendered students.

41 posted on 06/17/2013 6:26:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: servo1969
I have a question, though it is a bit off topic.

If a father or uncle has a young daughter or niece with them at for example a ball game or fair and the youngster has to go to the bathroom, which bathroom does the father or uncle bring the child into?

42 posted on 06/17/2013 6:29:01 AM PDT by PatHimself
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To: arthurus

I agree. Public schools are beyond saving. Kids are better off dropping out of school rather than going to one.


43 posted on 06/17/2013 6:29:12 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: circlecity

No, they should all leave their excrement at the court that is deciding this matter.


44 posted on 06/17/2013 6:30:14 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: MrB

I am going to have to read it!


45 posted on 06/17/2013 6:30:19 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

you must be racist .. or homophobic.,.. or ... somethign


46 posted on 06/17/2013 6:30:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

That is too simple because you can whack a penis off. It should be determined by chromosomes. If you have a Y chromosome you are a man period I don’t care what you plumbing is like.


47 posted on 06/17/2013 6:30:39 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: PatHimself

#42

I take my 6-year-old niece to the women’s restroom and wait right outside the entrance.

That’s the best I can do if there’s no one else to do it.


48 posted on 06/17/2013 6:36:02 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: circlecity

If they let a boy who says he’s a girl use the girl’s restroom, then all the girls must be allowed to use the teachers lounge toilet.

That or the school needs to make a transgendered restroom.


49 posted on 06/17/2013 6:39:21 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: servo1969

The one labeled “Freaks”.


50 posted on 06/17/2013 6:43:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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