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Expert warns terrorists may be setting wildfires across American West
Washington Examiner ^ | June 16, 2013 | MARK TAPSCOTT

Posted on 06/17/2013 5:54:01 AM PDT by Innovative

Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld of the New York-based American Center for Democracy's Economic Warfare Institute warns that last July "al-Qaeda's English-language online magazine, Inspire, published an article called 'It Is of Your Freedom to Ignite a Firebomb,' which featured instructions on how to build an incendiary bomb to light forests on fire.

"A few months later, Russia's security (FSB) chief, Aleksandr Bortnikov warned, 'al-Qaeda was complicit in recent forest fires in Europe' as part of the terrorists' 'strategy of a thousand cuts.' Bortnikov spoke of 'extremist sites [that] contained detailed instructions of waging the forest jihad and stressed that such a method had proved itself effective as it inflicted both physical and moral damage, needed little training or investment and it was extremely hard for police to find and apprehend the arsonists.'

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; arizona; arson; colorado; globaljihad; inspire; internet; israel; jihad; jihadinamerica; jihadpropaganda; lightning; masadaalmujahideen; obamaspeople; terrorism; threatmatrix; wildfire; wildfires; wldfires; wot
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Federal investigators called in as Colorado firefighters make progress

"The 16,000-acre Black Forest Fire, which was 65% contained Sunday, is now considered a crime scene, according to El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa... "

1 posted on 06/17/2013 5:54:01 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

If there is evidence of this it will be covered up


2 posted on 06/17/2013 5:57:01 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Innovative

Who’d a thunk... terrorists in America... naaaaa


3 posted on 06/17/2013 5:58:26 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Innovative

That’s the first thing I thought when I heard that officials were certain that the fires where not natural.

Much as I hate to see the willful destruction of anyone’s property, the idea of Terrorists’ culpability may get up the noses of some Colorado Liberals.

They’ll have to re-arrange some of your mental furniture, I guess.


4 posted on 06/17/2013 5:58:32 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Innovative

Just a small outcome of having an open-border society, with a welfare state (so that undocumented terrorists can get tax-payer funded cars, gas, matches, maps).


5 posted on 06/17/2013 5:59:56 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Innovative; MestaMachine; LucyT; butterdezillion; shibumi; bgill; null and void
Expert warns terrorists may be setting wildfires across American West


6 posted on 06/17/2013 6:02:56 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Innovative

But for the idiots liberal greenies who inhibit forest management, that fire would have been a crawling yawner.


7 posted on 06/17/2013 6:03:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: Convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Innovative

And blowing up chemical factories.


8 posted on 06/17/2013 6:05:22 AM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: SMARTY
They’ll have to re-arrange some of your mental furniture, I guess.

They will blame Bush.

9 posted on 06/17/2013 6:07:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Innovative

As long as the left and the media can blame it on ‘global warming’ and Bush, we will hear nothing of it in the media.


10 posted on 06/17/2013 6:09:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Innovative

Look at all the “fires” they’ve been starting around the country lately - Boston bombings, nosing around water supply, planes, the Canadian border train, and now this.


11 posted on 06/17/2013 6:09:49 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Of course, that goes without saying!


12 posted on 06/17/2013 6:10:33 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Innovative

Who does the IRSNSADOJFBI investigate first? Bible thumping, gun toting , Conservative Americans.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 6:11:32 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Q: The worst president in US history?)
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To: Innovative

If only the NSA had the ability to wiretap and collect data without warrants they could stop thi... Oh wait never mind.


14 posted on 06/17/2013 6:13:14 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Innovative

This shows we need surveillance cameras to cover all forest land to prevent this. /s


15 posted on 06/17/2013 6:15:21 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Innovative

Would not be surprised if the recent fires in CO WERE SET.


16 posted on 06/17/2013 6:15:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Old Sarge; LucyT; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; Absolutely Nobama; ...
What a coincidence, huh? Here we were just talking about this the other day and now we have an 'expert' warning us. Well. zippidee doodah all the livelong day.


17 posted on 06/17/2013 6:16:42 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: t1b8zs

Tea Party folks with Bic lighters?


18 posted on 06/17/2013 6:17:03 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: I want the USA back

That is why the “new media” has stepped up to the plate.


19 posted on 06/17/2013 6:17:05 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: WXRGina

ping


20 posted on 06/17/2013 6:17:43 AM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: SMARTY

“...your mental furniture...”

Had to read that twice, even after 3 mugs of coffee, but it’s a great phrase.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 6:19:13 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yeah, how about a little forest management so that there isn’t enough underbrush fuel to make any of these fires a problem.


22 posted on 06/17/2013 6:20:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Innovative

This is something that I have really worried about. It would be easy for 10 men to wreak absolute havoc and destruction on a state like mine that is suffering from a drought and has many areas overloaded with fuels ready for a match. We came close to losing our house in a wildfire caused by some kids playing with matches in 2000. Over 50 homes were destroyed along with about 15,000 acres. The national forest roads are pretty deserted so they could drive along setting fires every mile and no one could stop them unless they just shut down access. Many towns and cities have forest lands bordering or surrounding them. In 2002 a woman was burning a letter in a fire pit in the national forest and started a fire that burned down over 500,000 acres. It took weeks and millions of dollars to fight it. The disruption to the economy would be massive.


23 posted on 06/17/2013 6:22:42 AM PDT by albionin ( ,)
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To: bgill

And there was this from CBS News two months ago: “Vandalism At San Jose PG&E Substation Called ‘Sabotage’”

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/16/gunshots-cause-oil-spill-at-san-jose-pge-substation/

“The vandal’s objective appears to have been “shutting down the system,” Sheriff Laurie Smith said at a news conference at the substation Tuesday afternoon.”


24 posted on 06/17/2013 6:22:53 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: carriage_hill

How incredible it must be to be a liberal. You advocate for the demise of your own country, property ...even your own species.

To be liberal is to cease to BE. I don’t get it.


25 posted on 06/17/2013 6:23:24 AM PDT by LibsRJerks (s)
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To: MrB

It takes three things to make a fire: Air, fuel, and ignition. Air we can do nothing about. Ignitions, such as lightning strikes, happen all the time. The only tool available to control the damage a fire can do is to manage the fuel.


26 posted on 06/17/2013 6:23:40 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: Convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Innovative

might also apply to chemical plants — 3 so far.


27 posted on 06/17/2013 6:24:49 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: Innovative

That is why the US Congress and Obama
deliberately LEFT THE borders open.

Did Terrorists Holder have to give matches
out with his weapons to them in FAST&FURIOUS
or FAST&FURIOUS++???
Probably, it was not necessary.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 6:26:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Innovative

El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa was the sheriff who instigated the civil rights lawsuit against Colorado state over the two unconstitutional gun control laws passed this last legislative session.

He’s been joined by 55 of the 63 elected sheriffs in CO, but he started the whole thing.

This fire is payback to those who elected him.

I’ll wager no outside person started this, this was a CO job, as I believe most CO fires are.

Except maybe the Hayman fire more than 10 years ago. That was started by a Federal Forest Service worker, and burned over 400,000 acres as the local fire departments fought with the Forest Service over the right to fight the fire. Obviously the Forest Service won that fight.


29 posted on 06/17/2013 6:27:39 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: LibsRJerks

I don’t either. They are truly the ‘enemy within’, and have infiltrated all levels of society and gov’t. We’re so compromised now, that I don’t know if we can ever recover from the past 50yrs of liberalism.

SPJNK.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 6:29:07 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: logitech

Nobody in the commie media wants to even hint at this, yet we are bombarded by lowest-common-denominator PSAs on the radio quoting “Smokey Bear” who has said FOR YEARS that “nine out of ten wildfires are caused by humans.” But, no “news”casts ever claim this. Hmmmmm....


31 posted on 06/17/2013 6:35:44 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: MestaMachine
zippidee doodah all the livelong day


32 posted on 06/17/2013 6:36:33 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Innovative

This is impossible because Dear Leader declared the War On Terror completed.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 6:37:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: carriage_hill

There is a problem here. Yes, there are many potential terrorists in our midst, but they didn’t necessarily start fires. They could but...

The problem is that the government can say “terrorists” about any problem just so they can justify spying on Americans and ignoring the Constitution. The government morons can then justify doing anything they want because of the “potential” terrorism. I believe the terrorists that do exist are total morons because there are so many thousands of things that they could be doing to create disruption in this somewhat free society...but they don’t. So the question becomes confused. Freedom entails some risk. We should kill terrorists immediately and humiliate them whenever they threaten or do terrorist acts. Leave the average American citizen alone.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 6:42:10 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MrB

Would be very helpful as would allowing companies to log out dead trees in areas ravaged by beetle kill. Unfortunately the area in the black forest fire is not a forest so much as a wooded residential area, as you can tell by the number of homes lost. There are similar communities spread all through the Colorado foothills and front range.


35 posted on 06/17/2013 6:42:29 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: hal ogen

Agreed 100%. They use ‘terrorism’ as an excuse for everything, now.


36 posted on 06/17/2013 6:46:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Mom MD

I’ve heard what a giant dead tree will do when it comes down during a fire. Due to the energy of the fall, the embers shoot out in all directions for very long distances.

Cleaning out the dead wood, indeed, would make these fires far less devastating.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 6:48:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: WXRGina
“Smokey Bear” who has said FOR YEARS that “nine out of ten wildfires are caused by humans.”

I have heard for decades that 99 percent of forest fires are started by lightning. Are you saying that you have recently heard the other claim?

38 posted on 06/17/2013 6:48:55 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: MrB

There are areas in the Colorado front range where 90+% of trees are dead from beetle kill. The envirowhackos will not allow logging out of the dead wood. There will be many devastating fires in the years to come. Interestingly the black forest fire was in healthy trees, though it is very dry in Colorado over the past few years.


39 posted on 06/17/2013 6:51:14 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: albionin

Are you up in the Jemez?


40 posted on 06/17/2013 6:53:32 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: BigBobber; Vendome

The “vandals” also cut the fiber optic line.


41 posted on 06/17/2013 6:54:28 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: LibsRJerks

‘To be liberal is to cease to BE. I don’t get it.’

But darn it, one can feel good about themselves when they sit down in the evening for that first toke...


42 posted on 06/17/2013 6:57:29 AM PDT by Delta Dawn
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To: Disambiguator

And our ever-vigilant government is planning to import a bunch of Syrian militants. Wow! Are we ever lucky to be governed by these people.


43 posted on 06/17/2013 7:02:50 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Innovative; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

44 posted on 06/17/2013 7:03:43 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: t1b8zs

Look a rag head riding a camel starting a fire with a flame thrower would be covered up.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 7:04:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Delta Dawn

What makes you think they wait until evening? Haven’t you heard of “wake and bake”?


46 posted on 06/17/2013 7:04:47 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: SamuraiScot
Yes, of course. The "Smokey Bear" public service announcements have been running for many decades (created in the 1940s), and are running to this day.

From Smokey Bear Guidelines:

Statistics showed that nine out of ten of the fires were person-caused and, thus, preventable. With this in mind, in 1942 the Forest Service organized the Cooperative Forest Fire Prevention Program with the help of the Wartime Advertising Council. The Wartime Advertising Council was composed of people experienced in the business of advertising who donated their talent to the U.S. Government to get important messages to the people.

Posters and slogans were created through the Wartime Advertising Council, including "Forest Fires Aid the Enemy," and "Our Carelessness, Their Secret Weapon." By using catchy phrases, colorful posters and other fire prevention messages, the CFFP Program encouraged people to prevent accidental fires and help with the War.

47 posted on 06/17/2013 7:14:53 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: SamuraiScot

... PS: Granted, the Smokey Bear emphasis was on carelessness, not malice, however the point remains that, especially today, we have every reason to believe there are enemy agents behind some or even many of the wildfires.


48 posted on 06/17/2013 7:18:45 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Innovative

Duh....


49 posted on 06/17/2013 7:21:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Innovative

Sad to say, but some of those terrorists wear the uniform of the USFS.


50 posted on 06/17/2013 7:40:10 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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