Skip to comments.Surpreme Court Strikes Down AZ Voter Law
Posted on 06/17/2013 7:30:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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Just like her, to be throwing that weight at others.
‘So basically anybody can vote in our elections now.’
And...you can vote as many times as you want to. The only limitation is the number of precincts that you can access on voting day. Thank God for early, late, internet, post-funeral, and pre-birth voting. That may just cover it all.
Surpreme Court Strikes Down AZ Voter Law
Obama Controlled Court Strikes Down AZ Voter Law
America was a great experiment while it lasted...
Or is CWII just over the horizon?
This latest display of Federal tyranny was made possible by the 17th amendment. Thank you 17th amendment.
So Arizona has a state form and a federal form.
Here’s a simple case of ‘probably cause perjury.’
If the voter in the federal election is not registered with for the state election and subsequently votes in a federal election that vote is suspect and the voter should be investigated...AFTER...the federal elections on the grounds of probable voter fraud.
I know in Ohio we sign the book before voting. Arizona would need to compare or create a new voter sign-in that indicates which type of election the voter is registered for. Be it State or Federal. AND all voting forms need to be disbursed that reflect just each case.
"That alternative means of enforcing its constitutional power to determine voting qualifications remains open to Arizona here. Should the EAC reject or decline to act on a renewed request, Arizona would have the opportunity to establish in a reviewing court that a mere oath will not suffice to effectuate its citizenship requirements." [emphasis added]I think this is a signal from at a minimum Scalia that once the NVRA process is followed, there will be a sympathetic SCOTUS majority.
Just what does the NSA have on the SCOTUS?
Yes indeed, “O”s Regime has infected every facet and level of the Federal Gubment.
“Any good news today, anywhere?”
Yes, there is good news. Picked up my son at the airport and while here, he filled material Grow Bags full of potting soil mix out of a huge bag of the stuff that was so heavy I couldn’t manage the big bag myself. Now, I have three 5 gallon Grow Bags full of potting soil mix and can plant food plants in those Grow Bags.
I have gone from bad news of government I can’t do anything about, to appreciating three Grow Bags full of potting soil mix. Have to find my joy wherever it is and government isn’t it.
Isn’t the upcoming Texas Voter Rights case before the Supreme court going to make a big difference whether the Federal government has a say in how states conduct elections?
I hope we get a years waring before the unpleasantness starts, I need that long to get into shape.
It’s all on the “honor system.” You know, all those “honest, hardworking” illegals who broke the law to come here.
Federal VOting Act uses the word “accept” in the language, i.e. accept the filled out Fed form without having to prove citizenship.. The Fed form must be accepted with a mere promise of being a citizen under penalty of perjury. Therefore, with the Fed law written as it is AZ state law is preempted here. To me that means the Federal Voting Rights Act will have to be amended to address this problem.This is just what I got out of this ruling. We are wide open now.
It makes me wonder if this will put more pressure on feet-dragging with regards to ENFORCE/DEPORT on the right. Or if we can get this VRA garbage rewritten.Read it and weep.
Valid point. Roberts isn't the only one they've dug up dirt on. This administration is blackmailing as many Justices as possible.
There is also the Alabama case as well.
People are over-reacting. The decision says a federal registration form must be used IN CONJUNCTION WITH DOCUMENTARY PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP, under perjury penalty. The real problem is states like Crapachusetts which gladly provide illegals with fake proof of citizenship.
More proof for what I’ve been saying for some time: Scalia simply doesn’t believe in republican self-government.
What these black-robed government tyrants have done is unconstitutional. Where does it say in the U.S. Constitution that foreigners can vote in our elections? Where? Do these lowlifes even know what the U.S. Constitution is?
So SCOTUS is basically anti-Constitution now. First the cowards uphold Obozocare, and now they openly support lawlessness in the voting arena. Traitors in the ranks of the SC just about seals it for America.
A push to give Obama two more terms is coming very very soon. Watch for it.
The Republic is finished.
Don't worry about AMNESTY! They can all vote now anyhow. "C'mon down! Vote early, vote often. Get your "Free" whatever as you exit the polling place!" What Republic? We are a Democracy with two wolves and a lamb deciding on what to have for dinner.
Have not read the opinion, but sounds like a simple Supremacy Clause and preemption decision, and is probably right.
#25 . . . “Whats to stop anyone in the world from voting wherever and whenever he chooses?” I think we saw the answer to that in 2012.
Don’t go Kaczynski yet.
[[Proof of that which is already a requirement is a how. not a who.
Something really smells here.]]
What the hell? This is another case of “It depends what “IS’ IS”
What hte hell other ocutnry can an ILLEGAL Alien vote in and be protected by their ‘powers that be’?
We might as well count the traitor John Roberts as a compelte loss to the right- We now have a mjority left supreme court that uis goign to IGNORE the cosntitution
Not how I read it.
They only need to aver (swear) they are citizens under penalty of perjury. That’s the Federal Form law/usage.
Arizona requires proof of citizenship for state level elections. They can continue to do so at state level, but for federal elections a simple attest to citizenship is the law.
So if Arizona wants to go after voter fraud, they are going to have to make the effort post election to investigate under probable cause those who are not registered to vote in state elections, but registered to vote in federal elections.
Boehner needs to introduce a bill in the House which repeals or revises the 1993 National Voter Registration Act. Likelihood of that? Nill.
No, America didn't vote for "this." "This" cheated to win. HAVE MORE FAITH IN YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS, PEOPLE. A huge part of the left's fraudulent victory is that it has hurt American morale so deeply; it has good, productive (if gullible) Americans holding each other in contempt on the false pretense of being stupid enough to "vote for this -- not me, but all you other jerks, Americans are so stupid to have voted for this!" So it has Americans hating each other for FALSE reasons.
Americans who believe that "most Americans" are idiot dweebs and parasites, are themselves the bigger, stupider, problem. As long as you, Rush Limbaugh or any other self-described patriot or conservative, believes that the majority of your fellow countrymen are stupid losers, then YOU are the problem.
This crap about allowing illegals to vote just proves more and more that indeed, WE are the majority, that Obama and liberalism is the minority, that most Americans have their heads on straight -- if they didn't, liberals wouldn't have to cheat to win.
[[With the integrity of the nation’s form of government on the line, these guys are debating the minutia. Alice in Wonderland. ]]
Yes, they are deabtign what “IS is” they are pullign a clniton on the American people- and they are countign on the citizens beign too stupid to realize they are beign bamboozled-
When we don’t even have a supreme court to protect us agaisnt a rogue govenrment any longer, the republic is finished- done, kapoot- the surpeme court was suppsoed to be our last lien of defence agaisnt tyraynny, but now even that is lost to us-
The conflict here seems to be that federal law simply states that the person affirm “under threat of persecution” that they are or are not a citizen. The Arizona law takes the extra step of rejecting any registration that does not accompany proof of citizenry, which is seen as an undue burden.
Rats in the house, forever!!!!
I hate to say this, but do you really see any Conservatives in the House, I believe the House is already gone. To those who think it is over are right,ONLY, if we choose to go down without a fight and please don't confuse the word fight with a Political fight. We are already beyond that.
I think that’s how it would have to be done. Only thing is, you have to have proof of ineligibility. You could require them to show proof of eligibility in order to vote in the state and if they didn’t provide proof of eligibility you could deny them the ability to register for a STATE election, but you still wouldn’t have any proof of ineligibility to justify disallowing them to vote in federal elections. Of course, that would mean there would have to be 2 voter registration systems in each state - one for state and local elections and another for federal elections.
I wonder if some states can only recognize the federal election results of another state if the other state has minimum fraud prevention measures in place. Or maybe the other states need to file lawsuits against states where fraud is known to be rampant - suing those states of willful neglect resulting in the defrauding of all the other states.
We have to do something, or the country is lost.
If I was running Arizona, my response would be to stop ALL vetting of voters. After all, if you can’t stop the illegals from voting early and often, why stop the citizens from voting early and often? SCOTUS just guaranteed fraudulent elections, so why go through with the charade?
“We have to do something, or the country is lost.”
check out my prayer...
The NVRA permits a State to request the EAC to include state -specific instructions on the Federal Form, see 42 U. S. C. §1973gg7(a)(2), and a State may challenge the EACs rejection of that request (or failure to act on it) in a suit under the Administrative Procedure Act. That alternative means of enforcing its constitutional power to determine voting qualifications remains open to Arizona here.
Should the EAC reject or decline to act on a renewed request, Arizona would have the opportunity to establish in a reviewing court that a mere oath will not suffice to effectuate its citizenship requirement and that the EAC is therefore under a nondiscretionary duty to include Arizonas concrete-evidence requirement on the Federal Form.
Scalia, and the rationale is federal preemption: Congress in the Motor Voter Act said that states "must accept" federal registration forms (which require a sworn statement that the voter is a citizen, but no other proof), so states cannot (under the Supremacy Clause) contradict the federal law.
Well, AZ can request a change to the form. Sure Holder will get right on with complying with that request...
If it is okay to cheat, it is not cheating. We vote as many times as necessary too.
“Stinks to high heaven..”
When the dicktator has access to all your personal communications there is plenty of opportunity for black mail. This is why character matters. Anyone with something to hide is at risk for coercion.
Thank you. It's good to see a realist on this thread among the many hysterical cynics.
... and you have the hint from Scalia that when AZ challenges Holder, it will ultimately win.
It’s a chess match. SCOTUS is following the Rule of Law and not simply acting as a legislature - something we decidedly don’t want them to do. This is a technical setback, that’s all. It is check, not checkmate.
[[Im just about ready to build a cabin in the woods somewhere and tell the world to f off!]]
Just make sure you follow all the guidelines and beurocracy and red tape while builiding it otherwisde you’ll be fined-
It USED TO BE that a person could go compeltely off grid and never be forced to do anything- or to purchase anything- a person coudll ive entirely off the land, never pay another tax in their lifetime, never pay another dime for ANYTHING if they so chose to- never be forced to purchase anything-
Then alogn came the TRAITOR John Roberts saying it was legal for our govnerment to FORCE us to purchase soemthing because, get this, ‘it’s not the supreme court’s job to protect the peopel from their own choices’ (Apparently the traitor will then be ok with a republican president coming along and declarign that NO man shall EVER asgain have the right to demand that any citizen purchase anything agaisnt hteir will’ and to make that a permanent law which can never be undone- Yeah I didn’t htink so either=- the Traiter John Roberts will probably come alogn and overturn suchg a law then declarign he’s doign so to protect the citizens)
Now we have the Supreme court tellign states they have no right to try to prevent ILLEGAL votes? Whjat next? Will the Traitor John Roberts then declare states have no right tryign to prevent ILLEGALS from raping? Murdering? Stealing? By declarign hte states may saty ‘how’ citizens are not allowed to commit crimes, but it may not say “Who’ is to be boudn by state laws?
We have a bunch of court jesters presiding over us i nthe supreme court
Poppycock. He just applies the law to his decisions. The culprit isn't Scalia, it is the 1993 National Voter Registration Act (aka Motor Voter).
Perhaps this is the way AZ or any other state could require documentation of eligibility for the office that individuals are running for. Pass a law saying that a mere oath will not suffice to effectuate its citizenship and eligibility requirements. IOW, WHENEVER there is a citizenship or eligibility requirement, documentation above and beyond a mere oath is required.
This should be done in every state.
The problem I see is trying to have it “established in a reviewing court”. The entire judiciary is compromised when it comes to serious issues, IMHO. For instance, the IRS intimidation extended to all judges in CA, IIRC.
I don't know if I'd characterize it that way. There may be certain members who are following the rule of law, but there are others who joined on this decision who nearly always use their position on the court to legislate.
TO be honest with you, I can't help but wonder if, everything being so corrupt now, perhaps a little corruption is the only way to set things on the right track again.
The Supreme Court has become as bogus and corrupt as the congress and the presidency. Nothing they do suprises me.
It is a thin majority, to be sure, and we’re one Justice away from game over. That’s why I wonder what the hell Beck is trying to accomplish by going after CJ Roberts - if that is in fact what he’s trying to do.