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Report: McCain, Rubio Got Fox News On Board For Immigration Reform
TPM ^ | 6/17/13 | TOM KLUDT

Posted on 06/17/2013 10:46:09 AM PDT by jimbo123

A trio of Republicans in the so-called Gang of Eight huddled with leading figures at Fox News Channel on the bipartisan effort in the Senate to reform the nation's immigration system, according to a piece published in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

The story, written by Ryan Lizza, indicated that Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) had discussions with "top hosts" at the conservative cable news network, including Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Neil Cavuto, all of whom are " now relatively sympathetic to the Gang’s proposed bill."

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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Florida; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; cavuto; fox; foxnews; graham; hannity; illegals; immigrationbill; invasion; lindseygraham; mccain; nancymace; oreilly; randsconcerntrolls; rinokeywordcowards; rubio; southcarolina
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1 posted on 06/17/2013 10:46:09 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Add Limbaugh to that list also. He was doing back flips to defend Rubio today about the staff member calling Americans basically deadbeats.


2 posted on 06/17/2013 10:49:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: jimbo123

Et tu, Cavuto?


3 posted on 06/17/2013 10:50:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: headstamp 2

And THAT is why Fox News Entertainment is just as full of it as the rest of them.


4 posted on 06/17/2013 10:50:45 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: jimbo123

Time to email/call/fax all US Senators and House members. Here’s a sample letter.

Dear Honorable US Senator ...,

Sir, I am extremely upset with this latest sham amnesty immigration bill the US Senate is currently debating.

Words cannot express my anger at the utter foolishness of this bill. Rewarding criminal behavior encourages more criminal behavior. People cannot begin their careers in America by breaking the law. Further, it hurts minimum wage American workers by causing them to compete with millions of foreign workers. by I am dismayed at those in Congress who lack the understanding of this critical issue to our nation.

I along with most other Americans are in favor of legal immigration for those who are willing to learn our language, culture, and invest the time and money required to become a U.S. citizen - but not for those who willfully break on our laws, spit on our country, demand benefits, and are not willing to go through proper channels to become an American citizen.

What is the solution? It won’t be easy because we didn’t get into this situation overnight. I believe we need to do the following immediately:

1) Secure our borders
2) Enforce existing law
3) Not allow any amnesty provisions of any kind
4) Improve our visa system
5) Prosecute and fine those businesses which knowingly employ illegal workers
6) Give law enforcement officials the necessary resources and authority to combat illegal immigration
7) Deport illegal aliens violating the law after being fingerprinted, photographed, iris scanned, charged with a felony, and their information placed in a national database.
8) Send a bill for deportation/prison costs to the embassy of the illegal immigrant’s national origin.
9) 2nd time and thereafter repeat offenses by illegal aliens should be sent to work prison camps for a maximum of 6 months - building the southern fence/wall.
10) Seize and liquidate all assets from illegal aliens and use the proceeds for our military and local law enforcement.
11) Must not give illegal immigrants government welfare benefits of any kind, including Social Security
12) Designate English as our national language
13) Change the 14th Amendment regarding birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants
14) Mandatory proof of citizenship for voting
15) Mandatory proof of legal status for DL or ANY government issued ID or benefits card
16) Put pressure on the Mexican government and other nations to reduce illegal immigration to America.
17) Encourage only legal immigration and citizenship to for those wanting to become Americans.

These ENFORCED changes would strengthen America greatly.

Please consider voting against this terrible legislation should it come before the full House floor.

Sincerely and respectfully,


5 posted on 06/17/2013 10:51:49 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: jimbo123

This means nothing. The Wall Street Journal (Paul Gigot’s editorial page) has been schlepping immigration reform for years and to no avail.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 10:51:53 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: jimbo123

McRubio.


7 posted on 06/17/2013 10:52:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: jimbo123

Just another reason to boycott fauxnews


8 posted on 06/17/2013 10:55:08 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: headstamp 2

I dunno. Limbaugh also basically said Rubio is pimping Obama’s amnesty bill.


9 posted on 06/17/2013 10:55:18 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Lions Gate

#18) Stop suing The State of Arizona for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!


10 posted on 06/17/2013 10:56:10 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: jimbo123; onyx; Jim Robinson

Somebody better tell Gov. Palin who works there again:

Palin: ‘Special Interest’ Amnesty Bill Rewards ‘Rule Breakers’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3031761/posts

Palin Slams Gang of Eight, Warns of ‘Perhaps Armed IRS Agents’ Implementing Obamacare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032168/posts


11 posted on 06/17/2013 10:56:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: jimbo123

Treason is in vogue I see.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 10:58:00 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Puppage

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-usa-court-voters-idUSBRE95G0K720130617


13 posted on 06/17/2013 10:58:00 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: jimbo123

No doubt OReilly and Hannity have always been RINO shills but I noticed Cavouto was turning that way a couple of years ago, he’s probably a full level of dipshill now, I quit Fox a couple of years ago.


14 posted on 06/17/2013 10:58:46 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: jimbo123

Rubio, McCain, Reid Talk Strategy on Reform Bill

By Jerry Kammer, June 10, 2013

Some excerpts from Sunday morning’s “Al Punto” program on Univision, where Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), and Harry Reid (D-Nev.) responded to questions from host Maria Elena Salinas:

Salinas to Rubio: You said this week that you would be inclined to vote against the legislation that you yourself helped to write unless there were some amendments that would strengthen even more the security of the border. Would you be willing to throw everything overboard?

Rubio: No, I am 100 percent committed to the issue of migration, immigration reform. To the contrary, I am going to continue working to ensure that that does not happen. My point is that if we can’t secure the border, if we can’t take the steps necessary to win the confidence of our colleagues, this is never going to become law, and we are wasting our time. But I don’t think we’re going to reach that point. I simply think that if we achieve a reasonable means … to secure the border and prevent any kind of other wave of illegal immigration in the future, we will have more than enough votes.

Rubio, responding to the concern that legalization might be delayed and therefore be subjected to the policies of future administrations: Let’s be clear. Nobody is talking about preventing the legalization. The legalization is going to happen. That means the following will happen: First comes the legalization. Then come the measures to secure the border. And then comes the process of permanent residence. What we’re talking about here is the system of permanent residence. As for the legalization, the enormous majority of my colleagues have accepted that it has to happen and that it has to begin at the same time we begin the measures for [the border]. It is not conditional. The legalization is not conditional.

McCain, responding to Salinas’ observations about the buildup of the Border Patrol in recent years: I agree with you that the border is more secure. But I would also argue that, looking at the flow of drugs and now the increase of illegal crossings partially due to the improved economy, that it is not secure. That is where the Secretary of Homeland Security and I are in disagreement. But we need to show our colleagues that we are taking sufficient steps, particularly with the use of technology. It’s not people on the border. We now have 21,000 Border Patrol agents. It is the use of technology for surveillance.

Reid, responding to Salinas’ question as to whether he has 60 votes committed to the bill: I believe we do. I really, seriously believe we do. … We have more than 90 percent of the Democrats. All we need is a little help from the Republicans.

Reid on his personal commitment to the bill: This is very personal to me. My father-in-law, my wonderful wife’s dad, immigrated from Russia. We are a nation of immigrants. … We are going to pass this legislation. It’s the right thing to do.

ANY QUESTIONS?

http://cis.org/kammer/rubio-mccain-reid-talk-strategy-reform-bill


15 posted on 06/17/2013 10:58:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: jimbo123

So, I guess McCain handled O’Reilly’s “needs”. They’re about the same age and relatively the same amount of mental stability, to boot. McCain doesn’t seem tall enough, but a phone book or two on the floor would take care of that.

Rubio and Hannity look like they could tango, so they were an item, I’d guess.

That leaves Lindsay for Cavuto?

Whole episode probably only took 45 minutes, an hour tops. Plus some time to wash up.

Of course you know nothing about the actual bill was discussed. THAT would require too much cognitive dissonance to be dealt with.


16 posted on 06/17/2013 10:58:56 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: skeeter

Limbaugh has been fighting the bill not defending it, he even says the GOP are supporting only because their big donors want it. He said I am blue in the face mad these guys are doing it.


17 posted on 06/17/2013 11:00:53 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Thats what I hear, also.


18 posted on 06/17/2013 11:02:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: jimbo123
Rupert Murdoch is an internationalist just like all corporate media. As I remember Fox News offered few if any strong voices against Amnesty the last time when Jorge, Juan and all the Dems joined hands.

The Fox News Channel has always been for open borders even though Hannity has from time to time offered the other point of view.

Krauthammer and Hume have offered the traditional Republican Party elite point of view most notably held by Boehner which is if I keep my mouth shut on the issue maybe it will go away.

Fox News Channel after all is the official channel for Big Brother.

19 posted on 06/17/2013 11:04:12 AM PDT by metafugitive
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To: jimbo123
Today's Supreme Court riling acknowledging there can be no state mandate requiring proof of citizenship to vote, should reveal to everybody that once the immediate legalization occurs, these folks will be allowed to obtain driver licenses and will be asked at that time to register to vote.

2014 will be a republican total defeat.

20 posted on 06/17/2013 11:04:22 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Lions Gate

The Social Security Administration and IRS surely know when a SS# is being used simultaneously in two different areas. Their cooperation should be mandated to alert employers and to stop the fraud.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 11:07:22 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: jimbo123

The Gang of Eight are just puppets of the White House


22 posted on 06/17/2013 11:07:52 AM PDT by molson209
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To: jimbo123

If Republicans were smart they would run down the clock on any major Obama initiative while his numbers are this low. Bipartinsanship made sense sometimes back in the day when there was more common ground.

Any reasonable approach to immigration reform would begin with enforcing existing laws and putting guarantees in place to insure future laws are enforced. Otherwise, any “reforms” will just become one-sided, selectively-enforced giveaways further empowering the leftwing destruction of our nation.


23 posted on 06/17/2013 11:11:19 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: jimbo123

Put a revenue amendment raising revenue in the bill and strike any severability clause out of the bill. Pass it in the Senate and then send it to the House. Pass it there, have the TOTUS sign it into law and immediately challenge the constitutionality of the bill on grounds that a bill raising taxes must originate in the House. With no severability clause the entire bill is overturned.


24 posted on 06/17/2013 11:12:50 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: headstamp 2
Add Limbaugh to that list also. He was doing back flips to defend Rubio today about the staff member calling Americans basically deadbeats.

Rush has been criticizing the bill since it raised its head again, particularly that if passed it will likely end Republican chances of winning fuure presidential election, the opposite of what Goober Graham was peddling over the weekend.

25 posted on 06/17/2013 11:15:03 AM PDT by Will88
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To: 17th Miss Regt
With no severability clause the entire bill is overturned.

"Pass that joint over here again!"

26 posted on 06/17/2013 11:16:12 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: headstamp 2
Add Limbaugh to that list also.

Why? He's been raking the amnesty bill over the coals. A few minutes ago, he brought the Ryan Lizza piece to the attention of his millions of listeners and summarized it.

27 posted on 06/17/2013 11:21:12 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Nervous Tick

You seem to know a lot about it!


28 posted on 06/17/2013 11:23:24 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Good. It is about time to administer the coup de grâce to America.

Her soul was lost long ago so, please, end it.

29 posted on 06/17/2013 11:50:11 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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To: jimbo123

This is way I have stopped watching Fox, and listening to talk radio, Rush, Sean and other conservative talking bobble heads have lost my respect over the BC issue, now this just shows me that I am right.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 11:52:14 AM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: stockpirate

Glenn has been RAILING against Amnesty. He is attending a rally Wednesday in DC against it.

It has to be called a “Press Conference” in accordance with DC rules.. but he’ll be speaking.


31 posted on 06/17/2013 11:56:31 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: stockpirate

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/06/17/glenn-to-speak-wednesday-in-front-of-the-u-s-capitol/


32 posted on 06/17/2013 11:57:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: jimbo123

I have been thinking about learning another language....just for fun.

I already know some basic German...my bride speaks german. I’ve been considering Russian, Japanese or Chinese.

I guess I should make it Spanish.... well, it is an easy language too learn.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 12:12:32 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: jimbo123

I completely disengaged for my sanity after last November. Haven’t watched the news since except for a few events ( Boston etc). Certainly don’t watch any cable news shows. I’m much happier.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 12:15:15 PM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: jimbo123
Report: McCain, Rubio Got Fox News On Board For Immigration Reform

Wonder if that will change now that Palin is back on the air. I don't see her toeing the corporate line on this one.

35 posted on 06/17/2013 12:20:20 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: lonestar

I can put two and two and two together.


36 posted on 06/17/2013 12:39:09 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

What about the bombshells that were going to “rock the nation”, “change everything”, “determine the fate of our nation?” Any more news on those....?

Enjoy your Beck press conference, but for me, no thanks.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 12:43:22 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 9YearLurker; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne
Et tu, Cavuto?

Cavuto? Say it ain't so!

I used to watch Fox News almost exclusively. That was the real reason for having directv. I cancelled a few months ago and have not missed it much.

38 posted on 06/17/2013 12:50:03 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin is “for” ‘Pathway to Citizenship’....seems she’s already on board.


39 posted on 06/17/2013 12:52:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: DoughtyOne

Ok Doughty...figure this...

I cannot see how Fox, Palin, Rubio and others are suddenly jumping on board this....unless the ‘Gang” of 70 are planning something... which by passing this bill allows them to carry out what they are planning on doing , which we have yet to know what that is.?????


40 posted on 06/17/2013 12:55:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kozak
Can’t say I don’t blame you....the circus procession doesn’t really change much...just more of the same with a shift of performers to fill in for the ones who get injured along the way...but the procession continues in lockstep.

I was without my computer for over a year...was in no rush to replace the monitor. Couldn’t believe how much of life I was missing out on...and no worries about politics was refreshing.

Have decided there really isn’t anything any of my fretting and stewing will change. And the protesting doesn’t either...writing congressman and phoning falls on deaf ears.

I like you tube...I get to pick and choose what i want to view...take tours of other countries...listen to other leaders....Oh my gosh! Maybe I’m turninng into a “Citizen of the World! HA!

41 posted on 06/17/2013 1:03:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; 9YearLurker; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne
RE :”Cavuto? Say it ain't so!

FNC has always been welcoming of immigration amnesty but I have seen Cavuto do a lot of segments on how much it will cost the government in benefits.

I posted a few times that I noticed that FNC was ignoring what is going on with the Senate bill and instead sprending all time reporting and opinionizing on the three scandals even though they are unlikely to produce.

I think its a convenient cover to get amnesty passed.

All the GOP noise on those three stories likely to produce little or nothing and Obama gets a major legacy victory ala GOP. They definitely see us as stupid.

42 posted on 06/17/2013 1:44:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; 9YearLurker; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne

” All the GOP noise on those three stories likely to produce little or nothing and Obama gets a major legacy victory ala GOP. They definitely see us as stupid. “

BINGO!


43 posted on 06/17/2013 1:51:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: sickoflibs

Yep. The scandal cover is clearly part of a, as they say, bipartisan plan to get amnesty passed.


44 posted on 06/17/2013 1:55:40 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I cancelled cable also. I would like to watch some of the shows on FoxNews, but there are plenty I wouldn’t watch if you paid me.

Jerry Rivers? Please! O’Really? No! Smithead? Heavens no.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 2:27:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: caww

I guess they’ll simply have to pass it, for anyone to know what’s in it.


46 posted on 06/17/2013 2:28:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: sickoflibs

Honestly, I still think someone who shall remain nameless will find a way to back the bill.


47 posted on 06/17/2013 2:29:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: sickoflibs

BTW: Your premise is sound IMO.


48 posted on 06/17/2013 2:30:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Jerry Rivers? Please! O’Really? No! Smithead? Heavens no.

And remember Hannity saying that the CBO was "The gold standard" when it came out with initial estimates unfavorable to Obamacare? I said to my TV screen, "You idiot, when they change their estimates, if you say they are now wrong, they are going to throw that "Gold standard" comment right back at you!

49 posted on 06/17/2013 2:51:04 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: caww
"Palin is “for” ‘Pathway to Citizenship’....seems she’s already on board.

Liar!

50 posted on 06/17/2013 2:55:48 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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