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Government hiring 'independent' study of HIV
WND ^ | June 16, 2013 | Steve Peaock

Posted on 06/17/2013 1:36:14 PM PDT by Steve Peacock

If one believes the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the reason certain populations in the U.S. report more cases of HIV isn’t a mystery.

Except to the Obama administration.

The administration seems perplexed about why homosexuals – whom it defines as “men who have sex with men”– along with racial and ethnic minorities, transgender persons and youths 13-29 continue to represent the “overwhelming majority” of the 50,000 new HIV cases reported annually in the U.S.

So now the Obama administration, through the CDC, is working to amass a list of researchers who could investigate and publish, independently of the government, conclusions about “this health disparity in the HIV epidemic,” according to a sources-sought notice that WND discovered via routine database research.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; hiv; hivstudy; homosexuality; obama

1 posted on 06/17/2013 1:36:14 PM PDT by Steve Peacock
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To: Steve Peacock
I know the answer already: Homophobia and Racism.
Please mail me my payment.

2 posted on 06/17/2013 1:41:21 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Steve Peacock

Gee, why do demographics who randomly stick their schlongs in random unsanitary places get a majority of the STDs? It is sooooooooooo unfair.


3 posted on 06/17/2013 1:42:28 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Steve Peacock
Wow, okay, let's save the taxpayer some money. Two groups make up the majority of AIDs patients: drug users who share needles; and homosexual men.

The reason is the same: these "lifestyles" have practices that are unhealthy. Sharing dirty needles with people who are probably not very healthy to begin with; and, anal sex.

Stop doing those things; and guess what? The number of new cases of Aids would drop dramatically. There is really no secret to the reduction of these diseases; just no will-power within the groups affected.

4 posted on 06/17/2013 1:42:40 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: BitWielder1

And Global Warming.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 1:43:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Steve Peacock

Because it is extremely difficult to get it as a heterosexual male... though I expect the number of heterosexuals getting it to start going up as sodomy becomes acceptable enough that it becomes cool for otherwise heterosexual boys and men to experiment... like it was cool for women to experiment when I was in college.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 1:45:28 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Steve Peacock

futher investigation into the myth of widespread heterosexual aids.


7 posted on 06/17/2013 1:45:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Steve Peacock
if, from the beginning, they admitted that fags propagated this, we could have had mandatory testing much earlier.

I couldn't get married until I had a blood test for syphilis.

8 posted on 06/17/2013 1:47:45 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steve Peacock

Probably. Let me gues... The independents will ptobsbly say HiV :

can be contracted just as easily by straight people as gay people.
cures cancer because it halts it’s progression (once you die from HIV)
Is actually beneficial to you because it helps you lose weight

Everything will be on the emphasis that HIV is not a curse on the LGBT population or that it doesnt target them. Predictable...


9 posted on 06/17/2013 1:48:06 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: a fool in paradise

Am I the only one who doesn’t believe Magic Johnson ever had AIDS?


10 posted on 06/17/2013 1:48:15 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Steve Peacock

Why don’t they consult the NSA phone and internet records?


11 posted on 06/17/2013 1:49:24 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Q: The worst president in US history?)
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To: Steve Peacock

“conclusions about “this health disparity in the HIV epidemic,” according to a sources-sought notice that WND discovered via routine database research.”

Unfortunately , like most medical research, this is exactly the way studies are pursued and funded. The researcher sets out to prove an already handsomely compensated theory and when that theory produces more research money to support it..voila, it is proven.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 1:49:25 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Sacajaweau

AIDS is an Epidemic? But Major league Baseball ran ads saying “It Gets Better”.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 1:51:23 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: wolfman23601

It’s extremely rare to get as a heterosexual male BECAUSE when you have sex the NORMAL way, you don’t tear or rip anything, usually. Thus the blood - infected secretion and vice versa is rare.

When things are inserted anally, you tend to bleed. The same goes with needles, which is blood-blood.

Barbaric practices in Africa have caused a ton of infection as well, combined with malnutrition and bad water, sanitation, and food that break down peoples healthy immune systems, causing them to become infected by HIV easily. Because their bodies have more entries for the disease to enter the blood.

In conclusion, there really needs to be no further studies on HIV contraction, but a cure. We already know why and how it spreads.


14 posted on 06/17/2013 2:18:26 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Steve Peacock

Um, maybe because there has never been a reported case of a male, otherwise free of veneral disease, having vaginal sex with a female catching the disease.

The above pretty much ends transmission outside of the sodomite and drug-using communities.


15 posted on 06/17/2013 2:33:17 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“Um, maybe because there has never been a reported case of a male, otherwise free of veneral disease, having vaginal sex with a female catching the disease.”

Wrong. Vast majority of AIDS in Africa is due to heterosexual vaginal sex with both female —> male and male —> female transmission.


16 posted on 06/17/2013 2:50:42 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

Not exactly.

Every reported case of vaginal transmission, female to male, also had another veneral disease present.


17 posted on 06/17/2013 2:52:22 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Steve Peacock

Whyspend the money on an outside study?

Can’t Obama get the government employees to give him the answers he wants?


18 posted on 06/17/2013 3:03:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: jsanders2001

Actually, it’s pretty much a curse on the GBT population. The Ls not so much.


19 posted on 06/17/2013 3:38:13 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Steve Peacock

More of our money down the drain. Homosexuals have it because they engage in UNNATURAL ACTIVITY.


20 posted on 06/17/2013 3:38:25 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: TheThirdRuffian

That’s very interesting. Do you have a reference for that?

I’m always suspicious of claims like this where the words “every” or “never” are used. With millions of cases the law of large numbers makes their accurate use unlikely.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 3:42:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Just Google it:

http://aidsmeds.com/articles/Transmission_9963.shtml

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/female-to-male-hiv-transmission.html

The Queer Lobby does not want this know because it is just not a heterosexual disease (again, assuming no pre-existing venerial disease and vaginal sex).


22 posted on 06/17/2013 3:56:15 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Thanks. Unfortunately your links do not back up your “never, ever” claims.

It is universally agreed that a guy is less likely to get it from “normal” sex with a woman than she is to get it from him, but that isn’t “never, ever.”


23 posted on 06/17/2013 4:04:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Those were the first links I saw. I am not your research guru.

Even from the polticially-correct site, they state a non-circumsized male (who is more at risk than a circumsized male) has a .005% chance of getting HIV from a HIV+ woman.

When talking disease vector spread, that’s a 0, especially in the USA where circumcision is dominant.


24 posted on 06/17/2013 4:09:51 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“Every reported case of vaginal transmission, female to male, also had another veneral disease present.”

I suppose you have reviewed “every reported case” yourself, so that you can say this with complete surety?

And which venereal diseases predispose to AIDS, and by what mechanism?

And tell me, how many cases of AIDS have you personally treated?


25 posted on 06/17/2013 5:06:51 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

“I suppose you have reviewed “every reported case” yourself, so that you can say this with complete surety?”

I haven’t personally, but my doctor wife sure has read a bunch. A random selection is above.

“And which venereal diseases predispose to AIDS, and by what mechanism?”

Anything that makes the skin barrier weak. Herpes is No. 1. Again, the articles are linked above.

“And tell me, how many cases of AIDS have you personally treated?”

Not sure how this is relevant, but again, my wife certainly has more than a few HIV+ patients. Every single one is a gay male.


26 posted on 06/18/2013 7:57:25 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

So basically, you have no direct experience or knowledge of this subject.

Your doctor wife: what is her specialty?

FYI, I have been treating AIDS since about 1979 (when I started my fellowship in Infectious Diseases), when we were seeing sporadic cases of Kaposi’s Sarcoma, pneumocystis pneumonia, cryptococcal meningitis, chronic diarrhea, atypical tuberculosis, and lymphoma and didn’t yet realize that we were seeing an epidemic caused by a novel viral agent.

Unlike your wife, over the last 36 years I have seen HIV/AIDS in hemophiliacs, women(a few with a single sexual contact and no STD’s), gays, straights, children, and physicians, dentists and nurses who received needle sticks. And, yes, I have seen it in men, acquired from women, with no other STD’s.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 8:13:36 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

“And, yes, I have seen it in men, acquired from women, with no other STD’s.”

Wow, if that is from vaginal intercourse, you must write a paper, since those guys are from the lucky .005%.

.005% is a zero, epidemiologically speaking, and you know it.


28 posted on 06/18/2013 8:31:13 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“.005% is a zero, epidemiologically speaking, and you know it.”

I take care of individuals, epidemiologists think about populations: in patient care, there is no zero, and there is no 100%.


29 posted on 06/18/2013 8:57:31 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias; TheThirdRuffian

PF:

None of what you are saying is relevant to the discussion at hand regarding transmission rates.

AIDs (post 1986 or so when people figured out about hemophilia and needle sticks) is largely a voluntarily-aquired disease, pretty much exclusive to the gay and drug-using community for the reasons cited by TTR -— it’s just darn hard for female-to-male transmission to occur among a normal-behaving population.

I also see that this information is shouted down by the medical community that treats gays -— because if the truth comes out, the money dries up.


30 posted on 06/18/2013 9:21:05 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Yes. It’s a conspiracy.


31 posted on 06/18/2013 9:24:00 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

How silly.

It’s just self-interest and political correctness.


32 posted on 06/18/2013 9:24:48 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: paterfamilias

“I take care of individuals, epidemiologists think about populations: in patient care, there is no zero, and there is no 100%.”

That’s great, but this article is about an epidemioligical study.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 9:32:24 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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