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N.Korean Army Chief Fingered in Syria Connection (the infamous Kim Kyok-sik
Chosun Ilbo ^ | Jun. 11, 2013

Posted on 06/17/2013 8:32:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

N.Korean Army Chief Fingered in Syria Connection

The North Korean military is involved in the Syrian civil war at the initiative of hardline Army chief Gen. Kim Kyok-sik, the Dagongbao daily in Hong Kong speculated Monday.

Kim was allegedly behind the sinking of the South Korean Navy corvette Cheonan and shelling of Yeonpyeong Island in 2010. He is considered one of the key figures in the North Korean regime and was recently promoted from armed forces minister to the chief of the Army's General Staff.

Some dozen North Korean military officers were seen working with Syrian government troops on the northern battlefield of Halab, according to a group called Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Information about the reality in strife-torn Syria is notoriously hard to verify, and this piece of news comes from a London-based pan-Arabic newspaper owned by a Saudi prince.

Saudi Arabia is arming the Sunni jihadist opposition to the Assad regime because Syria is a buffer state under the influence of its mortal foe Iran.

A man whose organization monitors developments on the ground has told the prince's Asharq Al-Awsat daily that the North Koreans are acting as advisers to Syrian government forces.

This handout picture from the Syrian Arab News Agency shows two military attaches from the North Korean Embassy in Syria during a visit to the Tishreen Military Hospital in Damascus on March 6, 2012. This handout picture from the Syrian Arab News Agency shows two military attaches from the North Korean Embassy in Syria during a visit to the Tishreen Military Hospital in Damascus on March 6, 2012.

Dagongbao pointed to Kim Kyok-sik as a likely link that would lend credence to the story, since he worked as an assistant military attache at the North Korean Embassy in Damascus in the 1970s and led North Korean and Syrian troops in joint operations for about 10 years.

Kim returned to the North around April 1982.

In Syria, he was in charge of military training and delivery of North Korean weapons.

During the fourth Middle East War in 1973, the North supported Syria's attacks on Israel. Kim is believed to have played an important role in the process. During the Syria-Lebanon War in 1982, the North also sent troops to the frontline to help Syrian troops advance into Lebanon, the daily added.

The North Korea-Syria military connection is also suspected of a crucial role in developing conventional and nuclear weapons. A nuclear facility Syria was building in the desert in the mid-2000s, allegedly with North Korean help, was destroyed by Israeli fighters in 2007.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kimkyoksik; nkorea; syria
Breakdown of parties involved:

Active support: Russia, North Korea, Iran

Neutral: U.S., Israel

Hostile: Sunni Muslim terrorists and their state sponsors

Considering that Syria has been the arch nemesis of U.S and Israel until recently, this is a strange development.

I suppose U.S. and Israel want Syrian regime to hang on, albeit severely weakened, because the alternative is even worse.

N. Korea really gets around. While they face host of political and military challenges in E. Asia, due mostly to China’s change of heart(for the time being,) they still continue their foreign adventures. N. Korea is at the forefront of WOT in Syria. LOL.

1 posted on 06/17/2013 8:32:03 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 06/17/2013 8:32:48 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Syria is a sponsor of terrorism. They have a history of it.


3 posted on 06/17/2013 8:33:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Not the best headline.. lol


4 posted on 06/17/2013 8:34:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: TigerLikesRooster

As we all remember, Kim sent nearly deployable missiles in that reflagged ship to Tartus in 2007.

He lost a lot of his scientists (a lot of Russian scientists, too) in the attempted mounting of chemical warheads onto missiles in June or July right before the Sept destruction of the nuke plant.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 8:45:28 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

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6 posted on 06/17/2013 8:51:34 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: GeronL
I know. It is between Shia state terror sponsors and all Sunni terrorists. They are eating each other. Somehow we want to let Shia terror sponsors to survive this time around. This is the state behind the bombing of Marine barracks in Lebanon back in 80’s. Hezbollah's long-time sponsors, too.
7 posted on 06/17/2013 9:00:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Pretty amazing that our “leaders” are so openly siding with terrorists


8 posted on 06/17/2013 9:06:38 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

It’s a choice between Bin Laden and Assad. Some experts think that Assad is more controllable.


9 posted on 06/17/2013 9:09:59 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: schm0e

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10 posted on 06/17/2013 9:20:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It’s a choice between Bin Laden and Assad.

BS. The "Do nothing" approach has allowed Al Qaeda to fill the void. They are no more in control of the Syrian opposition as they were in Libya, but there mere presence causes many to lose their powers of critical thinking as they can simply start running their sucks about how the President is siding with Al Qaeda.

It would be laughable if it weren't demonstrative of the abject ignorance and stupidity which passes for informed discussion around here.

11 posted on 06/17/2013 9:22:41 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Really, just like Egypt. Since Egypt is now a lovable and pluralistic democracy we can be certain that Syria will be the same way!


12 posted on 06/17/2013 9:24:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeMan55

the right parentheses.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 9:39:03 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: GeronL
Syrian opposition is getting arms from somewhere. Would they get enough from raiding government troop's armory? Sunnis Muslim brotherhood will be in charge whether they have in full control of opposition now or not. I doubt that the void can be filled by some secular opposition strong enough to withstand Muslim Brotherhood, unless the daddy Assad exterminated all Muslim Brotherhood in Hama, Syria back in 80’s. If there is an alternative other than Muslim Brotherhood, it could be another secular strongman. I don't know about you, but to me, secular political forces in Muslim country is pretty shaky. Even when people realized what they did and rise up against regime they help to install, the regime is entrenched and very difficult to dislodge without another bloody revolution in Muslim country. Religion inspires die-hard passion in those countries.
14 posted on 06/17/2013 9:47:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sorry. reply to wrong person. My apologies.


15 posted on 06/17/2013 9:48:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Hoplite

Syrian opposition is getting arms from somewhere. Would they get enough from raiding government troop’s armory? Sunnis Muslim brotherhood will be in charge whether they have in full control of opposition now or not. I doubt that the void can be filled by some secular opposition strong enough to withstand Muslim Brotherhood, unless the daddy Assad exterminated all Muslim Brotherhood in Hama, Syria back in 80’s. If there is an alternative other than Muslim Brotherhood, it could be another secular strongman. I don’t know about you, but to me, secular political forces in Muslim country is pretty shaky. Even when people realized what they did and rise up against regime they help to install, the regime is entrenched and very difficult to dislodge without another bloody revolution in Muslim country. Religion inspires die-hard passion in those countries.


16 posted on 06/17/2013 9:48:49 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: GeronL
Were you expecting rainbows and unicorns to suddenly appear in Cairo? The muslim brotherhood is now in a position to have to do something other than spout mindless rhetoric about how those in power were so terrible and how they'd be so much better.

Sound familiar?

Meanwhile, Egypt hasn't gone to war with Israel, and hasn't become Al Qaeda central, so, yes, it would be nice if Syria turned out the same way.

17 posted on 06/17/2013 9:50:37 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: GeronL

Syria Ping


18 posted on 06/17/2013 9:53:28 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: TigerLikesRooster
We can either shape events, or live with realities others make.

Doing nothing on the pretext that doing something will assist Al Qaeda merely allows Al Qaeda to expand their influence, something which they have been doing in Syria in the absence of any other party willing to intervene.

Afghanistan, 1990's. What have we learned? Nothing?

19 posted on 06/17/2013 10:13:16 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
That means several years of intervention and nation-building. Unlike Afghan, we don't have a charismatic figure like Massoud, the Lion of Panjshir Valley. Who are you going to grow, since there is no obvious candidate on the ground now? Anti-Assad secular general with popular support and willing to crush Muslim Brotherhood, I don't see one.

Muslim Brotherhood has a deep root in Syria as in Egypt. I don't want Syria to be a playground of Muslim Brotherhood any more than you do. There are parties helping Assad now, as I have described before. Would Israel sit by and let Assad fall? I doubt it. They could help Assad in some way. Allowing them to help Assad enough to grind down Muslim Brotherhood seems to be one way to do it. If ruling secular military regime starts to show cracks, it would be impossible not to expect Muslim Brotherhood to raise its head. It would happen whether we intervene or not.

20 posted on 06/17/2013 10:34:56 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You forgot to include China as an active supporter. Some PLA generals are likely to give support to Assad.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 11:28:20 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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Thanks TigerLikesRooster.

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22 posted on 06/18/2013 3:41:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Look at what you just wrote... Israel helping Assad?

Seriously?

Maybe the IDF can simply shell itself so Hizbollah can use their rockets and missiles presently stockpiled for that use against the Syrian rebels?

23 posted on 06/18/2013 9:06:36 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Who is this guy

Friend of Fish lips aunt???


24 posted on 06/18/2013 2:03:09 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Hoplite

Countries do that sort of things for millenia, and I hear it is especially true in Mid-East. Since you do not like such a prospect, perhaps you have some plans of effective intervention you may share with us. That would be nice. I am willing to listen.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 6:31:45 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I am certainly no fan of the Assad regime, but boy would I ever like to have a solid physical capture (alive) of North Korean terrorist commandos on Syrian soil, with their WMD stockpiles intact, and before they could bite their tongues off or bit down on cyanide ampulets for The Democratic Republic and the Great Leader. It would be great to have this on worldwide TV and embarrass the living hell out of Pyongyang—plus get maybe even more sanctions on them.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 11:48:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Un won't have a single "bad underwear day" unless/until we've a patriot in the White House)
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20 posted on 6/18/2013 12:34:56 AM by TigerLikesRooster: “Who are you going to grow, since there is no obvious candidate on the ground now? Anti-Assad secular general with popular support and willing to crush Muslim Brotherhood, I don't see one.”

I am beginning to wonder if the Muslim US Army chaplain at Guantanamo who did his seminary training in Syria might turn out to be useful after all.

Obviously he is Chinese and not Arab, and his own problem with taking a second “wife” while deployed to Guantanamo doesn't help matters, but it's clear he knows the key leaders “on the ground” in the Syrian religious establishment. At the very least, I hope the Army is trying to get him to talk about what he learned about internal issues in Syria.

Sometimes adulterous Muslims can be useful.

27 posted on 06/19/2013 1:56:40 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: TigerLikesRooster
1. No Fly Zones for Syrian AC. Removes need for MANPADS for FSA.
2. Arm and train FSA in neighboring countries. (Turkey, Jordan)
3. Conduct direct action strikes against Al Qaeda affiliated elements, wherever they may be. I make no distinction between affiliates and the actual organization. Eliminate their presence wherever they are found.

Post Assad Syria will not be perfect, anymore than Iraq or Afghanistan, but the Syrian people would be hard pressed to make it worse for themselves and the region than the Assad regime has done.

28 posted on 06/22/2013 9:39:45 AM PDT by Hoplite
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