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Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
myfoxlubbock.com ^ | 12 June, 2013 | Bailey Miller

Posted on 06/18/2013 4:12:04 AM PDT by marktwain

Slaton police came to this woman's house, who wishes to remain anonymous, to arrest her son. But by asking one simple question, she found herself behind bars instead.

"I told him, 'I will release my son to you upon viewing those orders.' Those were exactly my words," The complainant said. "He said, 'This is how you want to play?' He took two steps back, turned around to the officer and said, 'Take her.' They turned me around, handcuffed me, and took me in."

The complainant said she was aware police would be coming to apprehend her 11-year-old son based on a criminal complaint, and that she just wanted to see the warrant. As it turns out, that warrant didn't exist. She spent the night in jail while her son was left at home.

"He told me it was their duty to come pick up my son," She said. "Yet, I had someone stay the night at my house. They never came back that evening, they never came to pick up my son, or do what they told me they were there to do in the beginning."

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The police made some significant errors. They should make an apology as soon as possible, and settle as soon as possible to minimize the damage.
1 posted on 06/18/2013 4:12:06 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Cr*p like this keeps happening and all we talk about is slap on the wrist of the Erring officers.

I sorry people, Yes mistakes do happen. But I don’t think these are mistakes any more. It’s deliberate and designed to make us fear the Police.


2 posted on 06/18/2013 4:18:16 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: marktwain

Violation of “Policing 101”. There should be one or more statist thinking cop(s) fired from that force in addition to whatever damages the jurisdiction ends up paying.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 4:19:44 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Wannabe cops. All they do is cost the community funding when the town council has to settle later.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 4:20:50 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: marktwain

I see a lot of articles like this about Texas. It’s a major reason I don’t see Texas as a viable place to move.


5 posted on 06/18/2013 4:22:18 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: The Working Man

Many police have reached their Peter’s Principal height at writing speeding tickets, and running Radar traps.

They are overwhelmed with their authority, and take any questioning of their authority as disrespect, which means they lose the respect they believe they are entitled to.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 4:23:11 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: House Atreides

Sounds a little bit like they trampled on her 5th Amendment rights...


7 posted on 06/18/2013 4:26:40 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: The Working Man

Yep, that was no “mistake”. LEO thugs should be sent to jail.


8 posted on 06/18/2013 4:28:07 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: Venturer

And everyone feeds it into by constantly telling them how great they are.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 4:28:07 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: marktwain

Every story has 2 sides. Is their a video? What are the chances that a woman that produces an 11 year old that is already an accused criminal, might be fudging the truth for some cash?


10 posted on 06/18/2013 4:29:07 AM PDT by HogsBreath
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To: gotribe

Section 1983 complaint coming.


11 posted on 06/18/2013 4:30:50 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: The Working Man
We have far too many police and way too many lawyers for a society that claims it is free.

Ain't nobody in this coop but us "free" chickens.

12 posted on 06/18/2013 4:30:51 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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To: HogsBreath

Per facts in story, warrant not issued until after the fact, thus no authority to arrest as no crime was under way or other probable cause. Second, police will not issue an apology unless she agrees not to sue. That means they realize they are in deep doo doo on this one.


13 posted on 06/18/2013 4:32:09 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: marktwain
McDonald said the Slaton Police Department will issue an apology as long as the mother agrees not to file a lawsuit. He said unless she is compensated for her expenses and the trauma she's been through, a lawsuit won't be out of the question.

This police department screwed itself.

14 posted on 06/18/2013 4:33:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: marktwain

She can consider herself very, very fortunate that they did not shoot her or at least beat the hell out of her.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 4:33:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: marktwain
Now, if this were to have been a Muslim woman....

Seriously, this nation is having some serious problems. I don't see how all of this can end well. The police made a mistake, the responses about this are pure acid. Oh man....

16 posted on 06/18/2013 4:35:18 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: HogsBreath

Your point is well taken, but the warrant did not exist on May 29th, the day she was arrested. The warrant was not signed until May 30th. That, unfortunately, trumps everything else.


17 posted on 06/18/2013 4:35:44 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: The Working Man

But I don’t think these are mistakes any more.


The only way they could be mistakes would be gross incompetence. This case speaks to the root of the legal justifications the police have to disrupt people’s private lives. The police that show up at your door should know the boundaries they must work within as well as a traffic cop knows the speed limit where he has set up a radar trap.

i.e. I agree with you.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 4:36:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: The Working Man
"I don’t think these are mistakes any more. It’s deliberate and designed to make us fear the Police."

No, this is just a simple matter of economics; you get what you pay for.

A city that pays its police officers a decent salary can demand a higher quality of police officer and can place higher standards of qualification on applicants seeking employment as police officers. Of course this requires higher taxes and most cities hesitate to raise taxes sufficiently to cover the cost of a quality police force. As a result of this, a city will wind up with low quality police officers, and in many cases these police officers are nothing but thugs with badges.

19 posted on 06/18/2013 4:37:02 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: marktwain

what did the kid do? wear an NRA shirt?


20 posted on 06/18/2013 4:37:17 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: sport

She can consider herself very, very fortunate that they did not shoot her or at least beat the hell out of her.


I’m also thinking she doesn’t have a dog. ;-)


21 posted on 06/18/2013 4:37:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

The trouble is they are being trained to be aggressive. Also they are take the lower IQ score tests.


22 posted on 06/18/2013 4:39:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: The Working Man

This is a very gentle version of what Terrorism actually is. It is not the attacks of an enemy no matter how heinous and horrendous. It is not political opposition, no matter how violent. Terrorism or The Terror is state sponsored random violence against the people, random taking of citizens for no sensible reason or for reason that they are some sort of “enemies of the State.” It is random execution of citizens or sending of citizens off to forced labor institutions as slaves for no sensible reason. Terror is violence directed by a government against its own subjects/citizens for the purpose of making trust impossible so that opposition to the government cannot form. No one knows why people are taken or killed thus they must suspect that anyone can be informing to the “organs.”


23 posted on 06/18/2013 4:40:25 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: DJ Taylor

You bring up an interesting point. When I met my wife she lived in a small midwestern town. A lot of the local teen and pre-teen males were having ridiculous run-in’s with the local sheriff’s deputies over nit issues. I mean police brutality stuff.

But my wife sais, that it is what you expect when you have guys in their early 20’s with almost no training making minimum wage, and then hand them a Glock and a badge.

You avoided the police there if at all possible.


24 posted on 06/18/2013 4:40:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

She should sue the bejesus out of them.


25 posted on 06/18/2013 4:41:02 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: HogsBreath

Was there a warrant or not, and if there was one, did they or did they not produce it?

CASE CLOSED. Sue the city and the cops involved should be terminated immediately.


26 posted on 06/18/2013 4:42:02 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: marktwain
Hire power-happy idiots to positions of authority and suffer the consequences.
I hope this lady tells the Police Department in what body orifice they can file their apology as she sues the crap out of them.
27 posted on 06/18/2013 4:46:45 AM PDT by Amagi (Buying "Green"means inferior quality and increased cost.)
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To: marktwain

Good to see people thinking for themselves and resisting LE when they have no authority.


28 posted on 06/18/2013 4:48:54 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: marktwain
THEY are counting on the ignorance of the majority of our populace.

Also, minorities (esp) don't want to get tangled with law enforcement, even though some wrongs were done to them.

End result is the police becoming more and more tyrannical, and we live in a more or less police state. Constitution and our rights be damned.

29 posted on 06/18/2013 4:49:23 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: marktwain

This is hyperbole but just slightly.

The police are the best dressed street gang there is.


30 posted on 06/18/2013 4:49:54 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: HogsBreath

Thank you sir for defending the brave police officers in this case. the woman shoud have been shot on the spot for daring to question her masters. This pesky fact, that at thepoint in time they were there to take the child in custody as authorized by a warrant, no warrant existed is beside the point. These were brave officers of the law and she had better respect their authority. Another reason they should have shot her on the spot. And all they did was take her to jail. And yet she has the gall to complain. Talk about ungratefulness! She is a textbook study about it. Who does this woman think she is? An American citizen? Again, thank you for defending the police. In previous threads of this nature, the cops-can-do-no wrong crowd, a/k/a jackboot lickers have been lax, but you have atoned for their slackness.


31 posted on 06/18/2013 4:52:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: HogsBreath

Right now on Drudge you can read the story of an 11year-old facing a year in jail for wearing an NRA T-shirt to school and refusing to remove it.

It’s not that hard to be a criminal in a police state.


32 posted on 06/18/2013 4:53:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: cuban leaf

She does not know how easy she got off for sure. I would get the hell out of their before they changed their mind and came back and/or I had an “accident”.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 4:55:31 AM PDT by sport
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To: cuban leaf

You bring up an interesting point. When I met my wife she lived in a small midwestern town. A lot of the local teen and pre-teen males were having ridiculous run-in’s with the local sheriff’s deputies over nit issues. I mean police brutality stuff.

But my wife sais, that it is what you expect when you have guys in their early 20’s with almost no training making minimum wage, and then hand them a Glock and a badge.


I have a close relative that works for a Sheriff’s Department. They are also well paid, He/she has told us, (the Family), that the Deputies and the detectives are a bunch of “bullies”. Mind you it’s one person’s opinion. But it does make you wonder, a lot. Especially since my relative has been working there for over twenty years.


34 posted on 06/18/2013 4:57:18 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: dinodino

You are right. It is human nature that we learn best from the most painful and or expensive lessons. Law enforcement will only learn to take our rights seriously if cases where they don’t cost them significant pain. Sue the department for enough to make them feel it, and terminate the officers involved. This goes beyond the usual screw up that would just mean an administrative punishment. Need to set an example for remaining officers. The lady should think about a civil suit against the guys too.


35 posted on 06/18/2013 4:57:39 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: marktwain

The individuals involved should lose whatever total net worth they own.


36 posted on 06/18/2013 5:00:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: The Working Man

Here’s one of those sheriff’s departments:

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2013/06/09/1255375?sac=fo.local


37 posted on 06/18/2013 5:02:54 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: marktwain

They should be charged with kidnapping.


38 posted on 06/18/2013 5:06:27 AM PDT by EricT. (Let me know when you've got a few million citizens ready for an armed march on D.C.)
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To: LSAggie

I feel that the night in the slammer must have produced some type of long term duress and or mental disorder requiring BIG $$$$ to correct.
Go big or go home these types of incidents need big time attnys requesting obscene settlements which will in turn screw up these small towns bottom line.


39 posted on 06/18/2013 5:08:04 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: cuban leaf

You forgot the set of Barbells and steroids.


40 posted on 06/18/2013 5:10:57 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: sport

Welcome to ObaMao’s America: Where every citizen is treated as a terrorist and every terrorist or illegal alien is treated as a citizen.


41 posted on 06/18/2013 5:14:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: coloradan

Yes, it is best that you stay in Colorado. Texas is just full of problems like this story and anyone from Colorado, California, New York and Minnesota would NOT be happy here! That is if you like where you live now. ;)


42 posted on 06/18/2013 5:15:45 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: DJ Taylor
No, this is just a simple matter of economics; you get what you pay for.

Oh, you mean like paying Airport Security 3x more and making them Federal Employees all made us safer?

Or, perhaps you mean paying teachers more, and removing any qualifying standards while watching our student's achievement scores plummet?

But, hey ... it's GOTTA work this time. Sure, let's pay unskilled, uneducated policemen more money ... and just magically their quality of performance will skyrocket.

Ever hear of "Magical Thinking"? It would be a whole lot cheaper to buy them some mystical tattoos.

43 posted on 06/18/2013 5:16:15 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Vigilanteman

Amen to that!


44 posted on 06/18/2013 5:22:22 AM PDT by sport
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To: marktwain

This isn’t about “sorry”!

This is about teaching the Gestapo there are still CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS!

This is about some arrogant cop having his feelings hurt at having his authority questioned.

What the hell did an 11 yr old do to pose such an imminent threat?


45 posted on 06/18/2013 5:26:32 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: marktwain

These cops are trained to handle tough guys. My ex brother in law was one of these... So they go around feeling like they’re Chuck Norris, but writing tickets doesn’t satisfy the ego.

So they can’t help but pull out the muscle at times, even if it is on women or children or in situations where it’s completely uncalled for.

They’re like dogs bred for the fight game.


46 posted on 06/18/2013 5:27:11 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: G Larry

If this crap is to be righted, the individual cop needs to feel the brunt of the consequences of his behavior.

The individuals involved need to be civilly liable for their malfeasance, not the city that they work for.

To this end, each agent of the government should be required to purchase insurance (sound familiar?) based on their individual actuarial risk. Someone that does something like this could be sued, the insurance pay off the plaintiff, and the cop’s premiums for his insurance quickly becomes so expensive that he cannot continue in this occupation.


47 posted on 06/18/2013 5:29:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

“They should make an apology as soon as possible, and settle as soon as possible to minimize the damage.”

Part of the settlement must include the criminal prosecution and permanent incarceration of the “officers” involved.


48 posted on 06/18/2013 5:33:25 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: G Larry

Great points!

It’s funny: we’re not allowed to spank our kids anymore but it’s alright for the police to come into our houses after them to ‘correct’ them...

Boy, did WE screw up as a society!


49 posted on 06/18/2013 5:34:55 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: marktwain

“McDonald said the Slaton Police Department will issue an apology as long as the mother agrees not to file a lawsuit.”

Let’s see... apology or $5 million lawsuit... hmm... thinking... thinking...


50 posted on 06/18/2013 5:40:14 AM PDT by moovova
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