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History lessons on telecom and how we got here [gov spying on all citizens]
Vanity | 6/18/2013 | Vanity

Posted on 06/18/2013 10:38:27 AM PDT by Vendome

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To: Vendome

You are of course correct.

But how to make them stop?


41 posted on 06/25/2013 9:00:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I don’t know. I’ve been thinking about that statement and how it might be accomplished.

Some ideas are in my head and I think by 4th of July I may have enough for a series of vanities exploring strategies .

I do know a founding member or two at EFF and I’m thinking they may have considered many of the same things I have but, need precedent to proceed on just one issue.

I’ll post my 1st answer to that question next week.


42 posted on 06/25/2013 9:33:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

Oh! I see. Sure. There are seems of publications on this.

Let me go back through my snide vanity and get back to you in a manner that won’t require any work.

Look FO a ping in a few days.

It’s the end of the month and I have to finish out and do paperwork.


43 posted on 06/25/2013 9:36:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Not a big issue, if you have them handy and it doesn’t require a lot of effort on your part, no prob. Otherwise I will do some digging on my own and ping you back if I find items that look like they match to see if they ring any bells.

Your vanity post was the first thing I thought of when I heard the guy making such a broad brush adamant statement that Snowden was somehow a traitor for unveiling something a lot of us knew was going on well before (ala carnivore et al.).


44 posted on 06/25/2013 10:10:03 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: jurroppi1

It’s not a real problem but, I’m in the middle of closing out my month, getting orders straight and occasionally entertaining myself on FR.


45 posted on 06/25/2013 10:56:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

Here are links to FISA and their reasonable cause arguments

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Reasonable+Cause%22+fisa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb


46 posted on 06/25/2013 10:59:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/faq

Excellent resource. Note the number of different technologies, databases used, etc.

This is how I know Snowden is full of Chit and cannot just type in a few commands to get access to this.


47 posted on 06/25/2013 11:05:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

https://www.google.com/search?q=Whole+pipe+access+trawls+every+device+transmitting&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb#client=firefox-a&hs=ffP&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=fflb&sclient=psy-ab&q=Whole+pipe+access+trawls+nsa&oq=Whole+pipe+access+trawls+nsa&gs_l=serp.3...12458.12657.0.12704.3.3.0.0.0.0.195.305.0j2.2.0...0.0...1c.1.18.psy-ab.AL4rUwST95E&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48340889,d.cGE&fp=aa240c7ce24752ec&biw=1920&bih=952


48 posted on 06/25/2013 11:05:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

Symopsis of 1934 Communications Act:
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Communications_Act_of_1934

The act itself:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41733.pdf

Article revealing what the 1934 Communications act made possible:
http://epic.org/privacy/wiretap/98-326.pdf

Pay attention to Olmstead.


49 posted on 06/25/2013 11:16:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

NPR
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5061834

Good graphic
http://www.whocalledmyphone.net/wire-tapping/

Here is one document I relied on for my research:
http://en.convdocs.org/download/docs-57665/57665.doc

You will need to enter a captcha to download but, it is very, very good and there are excellent footnotes there.


50 posted on 06/25/2013 11:24:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

NPR
just perused the rest of my erstwhile article and much of it I adlibbed.

If you have a specific question let me know.

My article was nearly three times longer and I had to pare it down to what was at least relevant and could quickly make sense.

I’m looking for a few more links.


51 posted on 06/25/2013 11:26:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

NSA Killed System That Sifted Phone Data Legally
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0518-07.htm

The Whistle Blower Who Expossed Warrantless Wiretaps
http://web.archive.org/web/20081215105850/http://www.newsweek.com/id/174601

EFF articles on listening to your private communications
https://www.eff.org/search/site/listen

EFF on Backdoor surveillance
https://www.eff.org/search/site/listen?f[0]=field_issue%3A540

The Government Wants A Backdoor Into Your Online Communications
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/caleatwo
Local Cops Following Big Brother’s Lead, Getting Cell Phone Location Data Without a Warrant
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/local-cops-following-big-brothers-lead-getting-cell-phone-location-data-without

Another Court Says “National Security” Isn’t Blank Check for Illegal Spying
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2006/10/another-court-says-national-security-isnt-blank-check-illegal-spying

A Government-Mandated Backdoor for Every Network
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2004/10/government-mandated-backdoor-every-network

Taking the “Long View” on the Fourth Amendment
Stored Records and the Sanctity of the Home
http://stlr.stanford.edu/2008/02/taking-the-long-view-on-the-fourth-amendment/

Excellent, Excellent discussion about privacy rights as relates to an intangible such as electronic communications.

There is a synopsis at the link and at the bottom the full article:
http://stlr.stanford.edu/2008/01/the-olmsteadian-seizure-clause/

Some more stuff I posted that is related:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3032709/posts?page=9#9

Does Big Data Make it legal?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-shannon-little/does-big-data-make-it-legal_b_3431381.html

Boundless Informant: The NSA’s Secret Tool To Track Global Surveillance Data
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/08/boundless-informant-the-n_n_3409841.html

Boundless Informant
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/boundless-informant

Awesome sight with more information than you can shake a stick at
Boundless Informant-Augmented State Surveillance
http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2013/06/14/boundless-informant-augmented-state-surveillance/

Washington Post
Stellar Wind/U.S. surveillance architecture includes collection of revealing Internet, phone metadata
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-surveillance-architecture-includes-collection-of-revealing-internet-phone-metadata/2013/06/15/e9bf004a-d511-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_print.html

Talk Left’s discussion of Prism and Stellar Wind
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/6/7/42840/79770/civilliberties/PRISM-and-Stellar-Wind-Programs

Green Star and early ATT project and very clever. Also, they were lucky to get away with it and they say so at the end of the article
http://cryptome.org/2013/01/att-greenstar-spy.htm

CNET
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3031810/posts

Surveillance Monitor
http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/surveillancemonitor.html

A ton of links here:
http://cryptome.org/0001/ms-spy-takedown.htm

JOINT REPLY COMMENTS OF THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE, FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION AND DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION
http://askcalea.fbi.gov/pet/docs/20040427_jper_reply.pdf

FBI Target Netphoning-CNET
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028-5056424.html

The War on Terrorism: FBI Wants Expanded Wiretapping Authority -
http://technology.findlaw.com/modern-law-practice/the-war-on-terrorism-fbi-wants-expanded-wiretapping-authority.html#_edn23

Circuit Switching vs Packet Switching
http://voip.about.com/od/voipbasics/a/switchingtypes.htm

SISMI-Telecom scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SISMI-Telecom_scandal

Forced-access regulation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced-access_regulation

There’s a bunch more but, I have to get back to work.

Feel free to ping me if you need anything else.

I got more stuff in my head that just comes up when a cue calls it.


52 posted on 06/26/2013 12:03:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Thank you.

Ping me when you post stuff.


53 posted on 06/26/2013 11:03:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Vendome

Wow, that’s quite a lot to look at, thanks for all the links and the time you spent gathering them for me. I was just about to start digging, so I’m glad I checked here first!

Much appreciated. I may FRmail you in the near future to ask you something(s) a bit more direct about your article.


54 posted on 06/26/2013 12:58:19 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Vendome

These guys didn’t present anything new, that I can see.

We knew about these issues for years and after The Telecommunications Act of 1996, SS7 was going to be an issue as follows:

2001 IEEE Proceedings United States Military Academy, West Point
http://www.daairatoulatif.com/admin/upload/10.1.1.121.6125.pdf

The protocol was originally designed for a closed telecommunications community; therefore, it possesses limited authentication facilities. However, deregulation now requires
phone companies to provide SS7 connections to any entity for a modest fee.

The Internet-PTN convergence allows attackers inroads
via entities with poorly secured SS7 networks.

ISDN connections are also points of unauthorized entry.

Once access to a PTN is gained, an attacker can perpetrate
modification, fabrication, interception and interruption on a potentially massive scale.

Fort example, during a terrorist bombing incident, an attacker can modify en- tries in a call forwarding database to re-route all phone calls to emergency services, disrupting them and possibly increasing the number of casualties


55 posted on 04/18/2016 10:09:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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Ping again...


56 posted on 07/09/2016 8:13:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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Ping a ling


57 posted on 07/09/2016 8:14:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Aw shit.


58 posted on 03/22/2017 5:07:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Vendome

Bump


59 posted on 03/22/2017 8:22:35 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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