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New York police sued over surveillance of Muslims
Reuters ^ | 06/18/2013 | Chris Francescani

Posted on 06/18/2013 12:00:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The New York Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against the New York Police Department over its surveillance of Muslim communities, accusing the police of trampling on religious freedoms and constitutional guarantees of equality.

The surveillance by the NYPD's intelligence division has extended beyond New York City's five boroughs into neighboring New Jersey and other nearby states. The police department says that surveillance of Muslims is legal under an earlier federal court order.

The lawsuit is the latest skirmish in an ongoing battle between the NYPD and civil liberties advocates over the department's aggressive policing tactics - including its stop-and-frisk practices, which are the subject of a separate federal lawsuit.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, in Brooklyn, seeks to put an end to the NYPD's surveillance of Muslims, the destruction of all records on individuals created as a result of the program and the appointment of an independent monitor to oversee the department.

"When a police department turns law-abiding people into suspects because they go to a mosque and not a church or a synagogue, it violates our Constitution's guarantees of equality and religious freedom," said Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union National Security Project. She called the NYPD monitoring "suspicionless surveillance" and "religious profiling."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ap; bigot; contempt; criminal; doj; holder; liar; mosques; muslims; newyork; nypd; perjury; police; racist; raykelly; rosen; threatmatrix

1 posted on 06/18/2013 12:00:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, duh...


2 posted on 06/18/2013 12:01:10 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: SeekAndFind

gfy’s


3 posted on 06/18/2013 12:01:40 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"When a police department turns law-abiding people fly planes into buildings into suspects because they go to a mosque and not a church or a synagogue, it violates our Constitution's guarantees of equality and religious freedom,"
4 posted on 06/18/2013 12:03:42 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

Proving the myth of “Moderate Muslims”.

They want to hide their terror fomenting ways.


5 posted on 06/18/2013 12:04:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Today the NSA told us that there were at least 50 foiled terrorist attacks by Muslims in the last 11 years.

That is quite some warfare directed at the USA.

So tell me again why we shouldn’t watch Muslims closely????


6 posted on 06/18/2013 12:07:58 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Only a fool thinks izlime is a religion. And a bigger fool who thinks it is a religion of peace.

It is a violent political ideology whose aim is world domination.


7 posted on 06/18/2013 12:08:20 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why in heavens name do the liberals/weak repbs want to risk such

a catastrophic event as this which could result in street terror.


8 posted on 06/18/2013 12:14:05 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: SeekAndFind

The local police, state police, NSA, CIA, military, and every other rational person in the multiverse all have my full permission to spy on each and every muslim everywhere.

They, and their religion, are not to be trusted.

Period.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 12:14:22 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

I imagine they’ll be suing the NSA next AND THEY’LL WIN! The NSA should only be spying on white, conservative, Christian Americans. Muzzies are off limits. Hopefully, white, conservative, Christian Americans will be a “minority” after Los Gangstas de Ocho pass their fiasco of a bill and we’ll be able to sue the hell out of everybody.


10 posted on 06/18/2013 12:14:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess it is time for all conservatives, veterans, Christians, southerners, cell phone users, Internet users, telephone users, Tea Party members, true republicans (if any remain), to all get together and sue the stinking federal government in a class action law suit.


11 posted on 06/18/2013 12:15:55 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

For any number of reasons, people need to l\leave NY. And any other locality. People have a choice. The fact is that Libs will cater to muslims regardless and you can either go vigilante, or save yourselves and your family. Your job and material possessions are not worth it. Or if they are, stay in dhimmitude.

People for thousands of years moved huge distances about naked so don’t tell me it can’t be done because ‘X” It can.

Go to areas with non muslim populations and with non liberal governance. Texas, AZ etc. Rebuild there and let the sXitholes burn to the ground. When they are total war zones, let them kill each other. When they are dead, rebuild a muslim free America.

The reality is that as long as libs are allowed power, that is the alternative.


12 posted on 06/18/2013 12:19:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

RE: Muslims in Texas

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/irmxh

Texas has the eighth-largest Muslim population in the United States. In 1990 there were approximately 140,000 Muslims in Texas, which represented 0.7 percent of the state population and 2.8 of the total Muslim population in the United States. Most Muslims are concentrated in the urban centers of the state.

Houston has some twenty-two Islamic centers and mosques and a Muslim population of 57,000, and Dallas has fifteen centers and 30,000 Muslims. The Muslim population is 4,000 in Fort Worth and 3,000 in Arlington.

Austin and San Antonio each have 5,000, El Paso has 1,500, and there are small Muslim communities in Bryan-College Station, Corpus Christi, and Kingsville. Among the more prominent Islamic organizations in the state are the Muslim Students Association, the Islamic Society of North America, the Muslim Arab Youth Association, the Islamic Circle of North America, and the Al Quaran-Was-Sunnah Society.


13 posted on 06/18/2013 12:21:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

doesn’t “equality” mean we all get spied on?


14 posted on 06/18/2013 12:22:05 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: SeekAndFind

And they are well controlled thanks to Texas gun laws and ‘huevos’.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 12:22:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Christie at the beach

I think based on recent news the government spies on everyone so a judge should throw this out.


16 posted on 06/18/2013 12:22:36 PM PDT by edcoil (When given a choice, take both.)
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To: PGR88

Liberals don’t want us watching Muslims closely because liberal theology is that this is profiling, and liberals are against profiling.

Liberals don’t want to offend the sensibilities of Muslims by profiling.

Liberals say that it is prejudice to think that Muslims commit atrocities or acts of terror/war in greater proportions than others. The wise philosopher, Whoopi Goldberg, called Timothy McVeigh a Christian terrorist, to prove that not all terrorists are Muslims.

So, we have to bend over backwards to prove to Al Qaeda and Muslims that we are not singling them out.


17 posted on 06/18/2013 12:27:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: PGR88

if they stopped 50 attacks how come they missed the one that blew up the Boston marathon?

even after the Russians told the FBI about the guys...

oh wait, because when NSA collects domestic communications it isnt allowed to profile muslims- right? No “Jihad” no “Kill infidels” no “Allu Akbar”, no collect calls to Yemen

Oh well

I am guessing what the NSA surveillance stopped were 49 “Tea Party” or “Patriot” or “Traditional Marriage” groups applying for tax exempt status- we should all feel safer


18 posted on 06/18/2013 12:28:40 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: PGR88
Today the NSA told us that there were at least 50 foiled terrorist attacks by Muslims in the last 11 years.

Source please?

Not the part about 50 plots, where did they dare mention TROP?

19 posted on 06/18/2013 12:31:23 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

By making a Mosque safe from surveillance the court would be creating a safe haven for terrorists and any other law breaker that needs a place to plan his crime.


20 posted on 06/18/2013 12:40:49 PM PDT by ozdragon
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To: Christie at the beach
Why in heavens name do the liberals/weak repbs want to risk such

a catastrophic event as this which could result in street terror.

Risk? RISK???

It's not a risk for them. Any terrorist attack on us is not a a problem to them, it is a golden opportunity for them.

The game isn't 'protect and serve' it's 'prosecute and serveil'. A daycare center full of dead babies isn't the slightest problem to them if they can use it to pass more of the repressive laws they have sitting in their filing cabinets waiting for the next attack driven opportunity.

They may as well physically write the laws in the actual blood of murdered children.

21 posted on 06/18/2013 12:47:28 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the ACLU will be suing Congress et al, on behalf of the American Citizens when the Illegal Immigrant Bill gives a special class of perks/get out of jail cards/benefits/no IRS back taxes/ which violates the EQUALITY guarenteed by the Constitution? (/s) ACLU=American Communist Liberal Union


22 posted on 06/18/2013 12:55:09 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: null and void
I watched the General's testimony; it didn't mention muslims, specifically. Closest he got was "potential terrorist events":

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/18/nsa-chief-defends-surveillance-says-helped-prevent-terror-more-than-50-times/

We are so infiltrated and compromised, I'm not sure we'll ever recover even if we make it thru the next 3½-yrs of 0muslim&Co.

23 posted on 06/18/2013 1:03:03 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: carriage_hill
We are so infiltrated and compromised, I'm not sure we'll ever recover even if we make it thru the next 3½-yrs of 0muslim&Co.

No kidding.

Imagine 100,000 muslim jihadis here on H-1B, L-1, refugee and expired student visas working in power plants, fertilizer factories, refineries, chemical manufacturers, hospitals, utilities, dams, pharmaceutical formulators, web hub server farms, municipal water supply facilities, sewage treatment plants, meat packing and food processing plants, driving HazMat trucks...

Remember when the Vietcong took over Huế? They were able to round up every government official, march them all off into the jungle and kill every last one of them in one single night.

They knew exactly where they lived, who they visited, where they shopped and where they ate dinner, and when.

How you ask?

The cabbies had been providing the Vietcong daily reports on their every move for years in advance.

Soooo, where do most of the cabbies in your berg come from? In Washington DC, it's Somalia...

Just because we've forgotten the lessons of Huế and the lessons of the Sepoy Rebellion's "The Perfect Day" doesn't mean our enemies have.

Wiki seems mute on The Perfect Day. That information used to be readily available there. Now it's barely mentioned.

And now I hear we're going to import a whole pressure cooker pot full of Syrian "refugees"...
24 posted on 06/18/2013 1:07:55 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why can’t there be a class action suit against Islam itself????


25 posted on 06/18/2013 1:10:13 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

Because judges don’t like being beheaded.


26 posted on 06/18/2013 1:14:02 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They should be sued for NOT monitoring indoctrination centers.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 1:18:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: null and void
where did they dare mention TROP?

Good point. I was just filling in the obvious gaps. Although they did mention a guy named Najibullah Zazi trying to blow up the NY Subway. Perhaps that's a Ukranian name and I am just jumping to conclusions....

28 posted on 06/18/2013 1:38:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

A friend in the NYPD had to leave a mutual friend’s funeral because of bomb-making material found in an apartment belonging to - wait for it - Mohammedans. This was well before September 11, 2001. I know I’m not saying anything new here when I point out how insane it is to stop investigating the source of terrorism because it might hurt the feelings of the families of the terrorists. Our lives are more important than their feelings, but not apparently to those who we Americans have given the responsibility of protecting us to.


29 posted on 06/18/2013 3:30:04 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: blueyon; LucyT; pax_et_bonum; autumnraine; maggief; Silentgypsy; thouworm; AllAmericanGirl44; ...
Kelly vs holder.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise. Thanks.


30 posted on 06/18/2013 4:48:52 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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