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To: piytar

“Summary: nice for air shows.”

Correct. Speed and range/TOT win jet modern dog fights.

Manuevarbility is nice, and damn handy, but going faster than the other guy (dive, straight, climb), is about 75%.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 1:56:34 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Also 4+ gen without stealth? Sorry, that’s NOT 4+ gen.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Jewbacca

And net-centric capabilities.

F-22 is a generation ahead.


36 posted on 06/18/2013 2:33:41 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Jewbacca

“Correct. Speed and range/TOT win jet modern dog fights.”

Actually, its more fundamental than that.

Having jets is what wins modern jet dogfights. The cost element and inherent unaffordability of the f35 and f22 is what will sell Russian jets. It cannot be ignored in this day and age.


61 posted on 06/18/2013 3:16:53 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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