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Massive San Antonio NSA Data Center Raises Eyebrows
Andrew Breitbart's Big Government ^ | 17 Jun 2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 06/18/2013 4:06:19 PM PDT by drewh

Even as reports break about the size and scope of the National Security Agency’s vast data storage center in Utah, new details are emerging about a second massive NSA center in San Antonio, Texas. According to the Houston Chronicle, “Satellite and aerial imagery show that massive air conditioning units and backup generators have been added to the facility, which is now ringed by barbed-wire fencing. City permits and property tax records show that the complex has been dramatically expanded.” According to sources, the plant will supposedly translate intercepted communications from the NSA; the communications are then forwarded to Maryland for processing.

The data center itself is about 94,000 square feet. It became operational in 2012. But the San Antonio Express-News could find no funding in the Defense Department budgets from 2004 through 2013 for the work at the Sony plant where the NSA center was located. The property on which the data center is located has grown by approximately 135,000 square feet, and is now worth some $72 million. A local bond sale in 2006 estimated that the NSA would be dropping $300 million into the area.

Originally, the NSA was much more transparent about the project, actually holding a job fair to promote their expansion in San Antonio. But from 2007 on, the news about the site has been nonexistent. In 2010, San Antonio residents reported that their garage doors had been opening randomly, and the NSA admitted that its antenna were interfering with garage door openers.

Ben Shapiro is Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News and author of the New York Times bestseller “Bullies: How the Left’s Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences America” (Threshold Editions, January 8, 2013

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: corruption; democrats; dontspyonme; govtabuse; nsa; nsadatacenter; nsascandals; obama; sanantonio; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/18/2013 4:06:19 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

How much floor space does it take to read encrypted emails?


2 posted on 06/18/2013 4:08:43 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: drewh

Well, this is doubleplusgood. /s


3 posted on 06/18/2013 4:09:07 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: drewh

How many data centers are there?
San Antonio
Utah
Maryland
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4 posted on 06/18/2013 4:13:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: drewh

In Texas? They must be after Glen Beck LOL!


5 posted on 06/18/2013 4:13:47 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: drewh

I raise my middle finger to them, not my eyebrow.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 4:13:57 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Fai Mao

Most of the floor space will be going to servers, data storage, and the kinds of supercomputers necessary for doing the sort of number crunching that it takes to break encryptions.


7 posted on 06/18/2013 4:14:35 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: drewh

You don't actually think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?

8 posted on 06/18/2013 4:17:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: drewh

The one at Lackland AFB is supposedly the backup.

You know...

nsa> tar -cvf littlepeopleslives_20130618.tar


9 posted on 06/18/2013 4:17:40 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

10 posted on 06/18/2013 4:18:02 PM PDT by drewh
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To: Fai Mao

YOUR taxpaying dollars at work against you!

You get the government you deserve.


11 posted on 06/18/2013 4:18:29 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: EEGator
Well, this is doubleplusgood. /s

You should have used /q — for Quackworthy.

12 posted on 06/18/2013 4:21:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MeganC

Love your sign line. I’m gonna borrow it for a few years OK.
Thanks,
Mc


13 posted on 06/18/2013 4:21:16 PM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA! THE GUN DEBATE WAS SETTLED IN 1791!!!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency

Other facilities

RAF Menwith Hill had the largest NSA presence in the United Kingdom.[35]

As of 2012, NSA collected intelligence from four geostationary satellites.[36] Satellite receivers were at Roaring Creek station in Catawissa, Pennsylvania and Salt Creek in Arbuckle, California.[36] It operated ten to twenty taps on U.S. telecom switches. NSA had installations in several U.S. states and from them observed intercepts from Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, Latin America, and Asia.[36]

NSA also operates RAF Menwith Hill in North Yorkshire, United Kingdom, which was, according to BBC News in 2007, the largest electronic monitoring station in the world.[37] Planned in 1954, and opened in 1960, the base covered 562 acres (227 ha; 0.878 sq mi) as of 1999.[38]

NSA had facilities at Friendship Annex (FANX) in Linthicum, Maryland, which is a 20 to 25-minute drive from Ft. Meade;[39] the Aerospace Data Facility at Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora outside Denver, Colorado; NSA Texas in the Texas Cryptology Center at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas; NSA Georgia at Fort Gordon in Augusta, Georgia; NSA Hawaii in Honolulu, the Multiprogram Research Facility in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and elsewhere.[36][32]

On January 6, 2011 a groundbreaking ceremony was held to begin construction on NSA’s first Comprehensive National Cyber-security Initiative (CNCI) Data Center, known as the “Utah Data Center” for short. The US $2 billion data center is being built at Camp Williams, Utah, located 25 miles (40 km) miles south of Salt Lake City. The data center will help support the agency’s National Cyber-security Initiative.[40] It is expected to be operational by September 2013.[36]

In 2009, to protect its assets and to access more electricity, NSA sought to decentralize and expand its existing facilities in Ft. Meade and Menwith Hill,[41] the latter expansion expected to be completed by 2015.[35]

The Yakima Herald-Republic cited Bamford, saying that many of NSA’s bases for its Echelon program were a legacy system, using outdated, 1990s technology.[42] In 2004, NSA closed its operations at Bad Aibling Station (Field Station 81) in Bad Aibling, Germany.[43] In 2012, NSA began to move some of its operations at Yakima Research Station, Yakima Training Center, in Washington state to Colorado, planning to leave Yakima closed.[44] As of 2013, NSA also intended to close operations at Sugar Grove, West Virginia.[42]


14 posted on 06/18/2013 4:21:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: null and void

NJCT ping.

I was wondering where the Utah back up site was.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 4:22:36 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is costly.)
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To: OwenKellogg; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
This Explains EVERYTHING

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

16 posted on 06/18/2013 4:27:23 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: mcshot

Enjoy! (-:


17 posted on 06/18/2013 4:30:36 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: drewh

Big Brother need Big Cribs.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 4:33:10 PM PDT by metafugitive
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To: MestaMachine; thouworm; penelopesire; SE Mom; maggief

“...translate intercepted communication...”
But .. But... What happened to just collecting data?


19 posted on 06/18/2013 4:33:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: chicagolady
In Texas? They must be after Glen Beck LOL!

And Ted Nugent, NO!

20 posted on 06/18/2013 4:34:49 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: drewh

Seems like an awful lot of data processing capacity for just storing phone numbers we dial.

LMAO

Lying bastards.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 4:38:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: drewh

This may explain the Ted Cruz comment to hold off on NSA judgment. As pathetic as it is.


22 posted on 06/18/2013 4:39:02 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: drewh

National Security Agency San Antonio TX 2012 Under Construction 2010


23 posted on 06/18/2013 4:40:45 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

That’s the Microsoft Data Center.


24 posted on 06/18/2013 4:45:02 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Great point, why do they need all these massive datacenters to store phone metadata only?? This data could be stored in a small office building.

You only need this much space if you want to store massive data like audio and video etc.


25 posted on 06/18/2013 4:45:50 PM PDT by bigtoona
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To: drewh

26 posted on 06/18/2013 4:46:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bigtoona

Yup. Not without precedent either:

http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/x212015747/Wal-Marts-data-center-remains-mystery

All you ‘I buy my ammo at walmart for cash’ people need to think again about there being any anonymity in that act.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 4:48:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bigtoona

Exactly. We’re being lied to big-time.

I’ll be they turn on and capture what people are doing with their own laptop camera too.


28 posted on 06/18/2013 4:50:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: drewh

Eyebrows and garage doors, according to what I heard on the Sam Malone Show.


29 posted on 06/18/2013 4:54:37 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: OneWingedShark

LOL, I was unaware of the /q. Now I know.


30 posted on 06/18/2013 4:56:10 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Many large business will have two duplicate data centers geographically separated. If one goes down they can immediately or very quickly switch over to a second.

These are the regions/divisions in the US as defined by the Census Bureau.

https://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

West/Pacific - ?
West/Mountain - Utah DC

Midwest/West North Central - ?
Midwest/East North Central - ?

Northeast/New England - ?
Northeast/Mid Atlantic - Maryland DC

South/West South Central - San Antonio
South/East South Central - ?
South/South Atlantic - ?

I would expect the Midwest region to contain one, along with West/Pacific and possibly the South/South Atlantic.

Basically anywhere power and land is cheap.


31 posted on 06/18/2013 4:57:05 PM PDT by matt04
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To: OwenKellogg
David Brent is not a fan of redundancy.
32 posted on 06/18/2013 4:59:48 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Fai Mao

Actually, 94,000 SF isn’t all *that* much space, in the grand scheme of things, for raised floor space. Some years ago when I was in that business, I did a few projects in the 20k SF range. Heck, going back 17 years ago, Equifax probably had nearly that much in one facility.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 5:01:11 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Here, let me close your tag for you:

< /Unixnerd>

;-P


34 posted on 06/18/2013 5:02:15 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: chesty_puller
In Texas? They must be after Glen Beck LOL!

And Ted Nugent, NO!

...and all the rest of the (we) conservatives that are were planning to move there to get away from the Commies/Liberals/Creepiness.

35 posted on 06/18/2013 5:03:19 PM PDT by madison10
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To: drewh
But the San Antonio Express-News could find no funding in the Defense Department budgets from 2004 through 2013 for the work at the Sony plant where the NSA center was located

Bet they can't find The Won's Wallet Stimulus funding either, but it's there.

36 posted on 06/18/2013 5:07:59 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

So, Perry allowed this? One more reason he’s not getting another vote from this household.


37 posted on 06/18/2013 5:12:44 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: JoeProBono

That place is named Texas Cryptology Center, nsa.gov. You can zoom in and see the construction. Of course, once they got the roof on, they probably changed it all costing us more tax dollars.


38 posted on 06/18/2013 5:38:10 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It’s the NSA.


39 posted on 06/18/2013 5:38:46 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: matt04

James Bamford in Puzzle Palace listed one that wasn’t cheap.


40 posted on 06/18/2013 5:40:37 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: bgill

I know. Just trying to get my bearings on where that is.


41 posted on 06/18/2013 5:41:50 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
NSA collected intelligence from four geostationary satellites

One is a backup. Two of the big sats could do the job, three gives you extra capabilities though...one extra has to be up in case of a failure so it can be moved into place.

With at least three big sats they can communicate line-of-sight between each other.

Their command and control links cannot be jammed. They would not use the large dish for command/control. Instead a much smaller and very precise dish with a spot beam would be used. The ground station for command/control would use a lot of power for the uplink and the receiver on the bird would be set to VERY low sensitivity. The spot beam downlink would have VERY low power as well. The only way to interfere would be to have a huge dish and a lot of power inside the small area targeted by the spot beam.(say around Ft Meade) Located at any other location there would not be enough signal coming down to pick up and from any other location you could not send up enough power to overload the command channel.

The commercial TV satellites like DISH and DirectTV use low-tech spot beams to send down the local channels. That is why it is impossible to pick up local NYC TV stations in say Los Angeles...you are outside the spot beams target area.

42 posted on 06/18/2013 5:58:28 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Black Agnes

Walmart’s own little NSA taking photos of my mug when I buy a dozen eggs. No wonder prices have increased. We all are People of Walmart getting our faces scanned at every aisle. Sure, they really needed the road doubled in size to accommodate 15-20 employees there, uh huh. More likely to accomodate those new armoured Homeland Security trucks.


43 posted on 06/18/2013 6:03:38 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: EEGator

Death to Goldstein that terrist!


44 posted on 06/18/2013 6:07:50 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Theophilus

45 posted on 06/18/2013 6:14:37 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: drewh
...the plant will supposedly translate intercepted communications from the NSA; the communications are then forwarded to Maryland for processing.

the plant will translate intercepted communications from Conservatives, Tea Partiers and Hockey Moms; the communications are then forwarded to Organizing For Action for processing.

There. Fixed it.

46 posted on 06/18/2013 6:42:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; EQAndyBuzz; 2ndDivisionVet; ..
"...new details are emerging about a second massive NSA center in San Antonio, Texas. According to the Houston Chronicle, “Satellite and aerial imagery show that massive air conditioning units and backup generators have been added to the facility, which is now ringed by barbed-wire fencing."
47 posted on 06/18/2013 7:15:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
the Texas Cryptology Center

If that is true, it is about code breaking, not phone monitoring operation. That is the stuff they were originally involved in and a legitimate government function, national defense.

48 posted on 06/18/2013 7:39:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Windflier

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 06/18/2013 7:58:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Windflier

bttt


50 posted on 06/18/2013 8:40:56 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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