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TWA Flight 800 investigators break silence in new documentary, claim original conclusion about cause
Fox ^ | 6/18/13

Posted on 06/18/2013 5:51:17 PM PDT by workerbee

A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of Long Island 17 years ago.

However, the six whistleblowers, all part of the original investigation team, stopped short of saying the plane was shot down.

Flight 800, a Boeing 747, had just taken off from JFK airport with 230 people aboard on July 17, 1996 enroute to Paris when it exploded and crashed off the coast of nearby East Moriches, Long Island, killing everyone on the plane.

“..This team of investigators who actually handled the wreckage and victims’ bodies, prove that the officially proposed fuel-air explosion did not cause the crash,” reads a statement by the producers of the film, which will debut on cable network EPIX next month. “They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.” However, the statement said they did not speculate about the source or sources of any ordinance explosions.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: facepalm; terrorism; tinfoilhat; twa800
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1 posted on 06/18/2013 5:51:17 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: workerbee

You mean the ex vietnam helicopter pilot who said he saw a missile may have known what he was talking about?


2 posted on 06/18/2013 5:54:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: workerbee

By jet East Moriches is “ nearby “ , but by car from JFK it’s over an hour’s drive .


3 posted on 06/18/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: workerbee

TWA 800 was beaten to death here on FR for literally years, and I’m still convinced that it was not the center wing tank just going ‘boom’ all by itself.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 5:58:20 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: workerbee

The main argument against other causes was the notion that too many people would be involved to keep it secret.


5 posted on 06/18/2013 5:59:05 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: workerbee

It was a Clinton tall story from the start. 100 witnesses who saw a missile can’t be wrong.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 5:59:11 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Having heard the initial local news, and the way the lies were gradually introduced as the story went national, I say no way in hell is the official story legit.


7 posted on 06/18/2013 6:00:19 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: workerbee
I'm shocked.


8 posted on 06/18/2013 6:00:35 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: driftdiver

Good call. I remember all that posturing and showmanship which resulted in nothing. Hopefully this will give that snowball a little more momentum to become an avalanche of the BS the Gov’t. feeds us. Worse yet, 50%(The Takers) believe anything they are told.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 6:01:03 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Raycpa

Well, unless it was a accident (that was one theory - Flight 800 was shot down by a USN Standard Missile - accidentally), somebody would have claimed credit.


10 posted on 06/18/2013 6:02:29 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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To: bmwcyle

Not only did 100 witnesses see the missile, some of whom were pilots, there was a radar image that indicated the missile.


11 posted on 06/18/2013 6:02:37 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: workerbee

Somewhere Mike Rivero is smiling a little.


12 posted on 06/18/2013 6:02:41 PM PDT by stboz
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To: workerbee

More dis-information by the lame stream media, and the islamolovers. Of course it was shoulder fired missiles.


13 posted on 06/18/2013 6:03:25 PM PDT by RobertoinAL
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To: bmwcyle
It was a Clinton tall story from the start. 100 witnesses who saw a missile can’t be wrong.

It was the other Clinton's Benghazi moment. Seems to run in the family.
14 posted on 06/18/2013 6:04:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Little Ray

They did. A radical Islamic group claimed rsponsibility.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 6:05:02 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: stockpirate

16 posted on 06/18/2013 6:05:19 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Jack Cashill is vindicated, mostly.


17 posted on 06/18/2013 6:06:07 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: workerbee
“They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.”

but it was NOT shot down...feh

18 posted on 06/18/2013 6:06:51 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: workerbee

Jack Cashell has spent many years trying get the real truth told. The Clinton’s pulled the big cover-up that destryed TWA.


19 posted on 06/18/2013 6:07:10 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: workerbee

July 17, 1996 - The very same day John Joubert was executed in Nebraska. Not related of course. I just remember the date.


20 posted on 06/18/2013 6:08:13 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: ncfool

Cashill.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 6:08:21 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: workerbee

We knew that from the beginning. That RIDICULOUS “zoom-climb” video was the biggest farce I have ever seen.

I still believe that it was terrorists who shot it down with man-pads. With the Olympics starting up in mere weeks and the 1996 Election coming up in 4 months, there was no way they could admit that terrorists shot it down.

So, they lied.


22 posted on 06/18/2013 6:11:05 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: DrDude

Basically if you don’t admit it was terrorism then it isn’t. Same with the plane that went down in NY shortly after 9/11.

How many planes fall apart on final approach?


23 posted on 06/18/2013 6:11:07 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Chode
and what about all the MILLIONS of dollars of modifications to all the 747's(except AF-ONE) to prevent it happening again???
24 posted on 06/18/2013 6:11:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: workerbee

Shot down by terrorists, covered up by democrats and republicans in the name of “national security”


25 posted on 06/18/2013 6:15:27 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: Bryan24
I still believe that it was terrorists who shot it down with man-pads. With the Olympics starting up in mere weeks and the 1996 Election coming up in 4 months, there was no way they could admit that terrorists shot it down.

So, they lied.


The Clintons had a great deal of practice leading up to the election of 2012 and Benghazi.
26 posted on 06/18/2013 6:17:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: workerbee

I personally do not believe a single word from anyone affiliated with any government agency.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 6:18:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: workerbee

“Hey, come on - airliners explode in mid-air all the time.”

Does anyone with two brain cells to rub together buy into this despicable phony-baloney government horse sh*t?


28 posted on 06/18/2013 6:20:31 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Chode
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To quote the Hildbeast ...

"What's the difference, anyway ?"




Now ... the $ 10 million dollar question ... Qui Bono ? ... (who benefits ?) from this news story ?

V.P. Joe Biden ...

desperately trying to derail the magical "Clinton Image" before the Clintons successfully counter-strike to remove Joe Biden from the Vice Presidency ... to REMOVE him from the 2016 race.




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29 posted on 06/18/2013 6:20:56 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Raycpa

” the notion that too many people would be involved to keep it secret.”

Yet, illegal spying on Americans has been kept secret for decades.


30 posted on 06/18/2013 6:21:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: workerbee

That thing was shot out of the sky.

I recall that evening as if it were yesterday. I remember all the eyewitnesses seeing what appeared to them to be a missile and the plane exploding.

I also recall there wasn’t a cloud in the sky.

Many people speculated that someone may have even hit the plane with leftover fireworks. Though not possible to down the plane much less reach it, that sort of thinking demonstrates that many people believe they saw a missile or streak of flame head for the plane before it exploded.

They were certain that they saw two things: A possible rocket and then the explosion.


31 posted on 06/18/2013 6:22:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Patton@Bastogne


32 posted on 06/18/2013 6:25:56 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: driftdiver

Yesm I never believed that the plane tha t went down at Rock Away wasn’t terrorism.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 6:26:28 PM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: stboz
Somewhere Mike Rivero is smiling a little.

I was just getting ready to post that.

5.56mm

34 posted on 06/18/2013 6:28:25 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Chode

To try and break Boeing financially


35 posted on 06/18/2013 6:29:08 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
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The Whitehouse will soon look like the violent classic movie The Departed pretty soon ...


Maybe news of this forthcoming "leak" (the CIA's initials are all over it) ...

is why that jackass FBI Director seemed so dazed and confused the other day during his congressional testimony about "Dear Leaders'" use of the IRS to violate the USC Title 42 Civil Rights of MILLIONS of Conservatives between 2010 and 2012 ...


Can you say the phrase "voter suppression under color of law" ...

Mr. FBI Director ?????


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36 posted on 06/18/2013 6:29:21 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: workerbee

Now we are supposed to believe that Assad used chemical weapons so Obama can get us into this war.

If he used them once, and that led Obama to get into the war, why wouldn’t he just open the door and turn chemicals loose on the whole part of Syria occupied by rebel forces?

What would he have to lose?


37 posted on 06/18/2013 6:30:30 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Raycpa
"The main argument against other causes was the notion that too many people would be involved to keep it secret."

It sort of isn't a secret...that's...why we're talking about it.

38 posted on 06/18/2013 6:30:59 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: ncfool
pretty much...
39 posted on 06/18/2013 6:31:46 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: workerbee
Checkout:

First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America by Jack Cashill

http://www.amazon.com/First-Strike-Flight-Attack-America/dp/0785263543/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371605351&sr=1-1&keywords=jack+cashill+flight+800

40 posted on 06/18/2013 6:34:29 PM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: driftdiver

If we’re thinking of the same flight, it had just taken off from JFK heading to Santo Domingo.


41 posted on 06/18/2013 6:35:14 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Venturer
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the united states president ... barack hussein obama ... is a PATHELOGICAL LIAR ...


the attorney general ... eric holder ... who serves this putrid united states president ... barack hussein obama ... is a PATHELOGICAL LIAR ...


the IRS executive management ... who serves this LIAR united states president ... barack hussein obama ... is a pack aof LIARS ...


the state department ... who serves this united states president ... barack hussein obama ... is a GAGGLE of MURDEROUS LIARs ...


so, whom am i to believe ? /sarcasm-off





remember NSA, what the Hildebeast said ...


"dissent is patriotic" ...

... and terrorists like "Bloody" Bill Ayres walk FREE ....




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42 posted on 06/18/2013 6:35:14 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: M Kehoe

Remember who was conducting an exercise that night? The Navy knows what happened. They may not have been the cause, but they were at the scene when things happened.


43 posted on 06/18/2013 6:35:37 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Vendome

Here is one of the best investigations I ever saw and it involves witnesses of military experience, the Medical Examiner and many others.

42 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwWzRFsrqAE

at 15:30 you can hear what the ME has to say and it starkly contrasts what the government theory is. It is also striking for his description of what he did not see on the bodies, leaving him with doubts about the government “story”.


44 posted on 06/18/2013 6:37:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: driftdiver

Respectfully, while I agree with the assertion that acts of terrorism were involved, and covered up, both TWA 800, and AA 587 (Nov 12, 2001) had just taken off from JFK, as opposed to final approach. Thank you.


45 posted on 06/18/2013 6:38:40 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Little Ray

They may have taken credit, but operationally their incentive was to gain notoriety, which is one thing the Clinton Administration didn’t want to give them. Instead he preferred to control the press and squelch their notoriety as a patriotic command, than to abide by the Constitution and allow free press.


46 posted on 06/18/2013 6:39:11 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: jttpwalsh

Well ok, I remembered it incorrectly.

I’ll correct my question; how many planes fall apart shortly after takeoff?


47 posted on 06/18/2013 6:40:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: workerbee

My accountant was just talking about that crash. It seems that the IRS determined that the passengers lived for several minutes, and knew they were going to die, thus the lawsuit awards had to go to them instead of to their families. Based on that decision, they all had to pay inheritence taxes. Had they died instantly, the estate taxes could have been avoided.


48 posted on 06/18/2013 6:42:11 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: driftdiver

Well, I do remember the two DC-10’s about 1979, one in Turkey, the other in Chicago, but I agree with your basic premise. Thank you.


49 posted on 06/18/2013 6:42:55 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Cementjungle

Please tell me you forgot the /sarc tag.


50 posted on 06/18/2013 6:45:17 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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