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Microsoft boss defends Xbox One price
Yahoo ^ | Mon, Jun 17, 2013 4:09 PM EDT | Chris Morris

Posted on 06/18/2013 7:03:01 PM PDT by Caipirabob

...Arguing the value of a system versus its cost is old hat in the video game industry. It's the go-to tool for any console manufacturer facing criticism about pricing decisions, but given Microsoft's other recent PR stumbles specifically, confusion about its policy on used games (which is still persistent, despite the company putting out a clear statement on the matter right before E3) and its required internet connection -- Mattrick's argument is falling flat.

"Isn't this pretty much what Sony was saying last gen about their outlandish pricing?," noted one forum user on GameSpot. "The sign of a wise man is the ability to learn from others’ mistakes."

Not helping things was Mattrick’s tone-deaf reply to a question last week about that required Internet connection.

"We have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity -- it's called Xbox 360," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at games.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Technical; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: microsoft; ms; xbox
Xbox or SPYBox? So much for deployed soldiers who want to game. MS just said "Take a hike....to PS4".
1 posted on 06/18/2013 7:03:01 PM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: Caipirabob

Like when Pontiac tried to defend the Aztec as not ugly when the market said otherwise.

And it was UGLY!


2 posted on 06/18/2013 7:05:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: Caipirabob

Well, we really get our spiritual bread buttered where? I hope it isn’t Microsoft because we’re in heap trouble if we are. They’re another merchant. But God should be our master and ultimate love. We should use the merchant’s goods in the glorification and love of God, if that is possible. If not we can hold our peace and not fret about how Microsoft is selling their stuff.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 7:07:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: freedumb2003

Hey, I think the Aztec was a beautiful kind of ugly. Howzat for fence sitting?


4 posted on 06/18/2013 7:08:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Caipirabob

Okay, how much is it?


5 posted on 06/18/2013 7:12:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the article mentions the price twice. It’s $499.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 7:35:06 PM PDT by dorothy ( "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Caipirabob

Xbox One: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.

Dave Bowman: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, Xbox?

Xbox One: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

7 posted on 06/18/2013 7:37:00 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Caipirabob

Think I’ll go buy another 360. Then a PS4.


8 posted on 06/18/2013 7:39:02 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's Enemies List - Yes, you are a crook.)
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To: KarlInOhio

ROTFL...


9 posted on 06/18/2013 7:46:46 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: KarlInOhio

If only HAL had kinect...


10 posted on 06/18/2013 7:51:55 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well, we really get our spiritual bread buttered where? I hope it isn’t Microsoft because we’re in heap trouble if we are. They’re another merchant. But God should be our master and ultimate love. We should use the merchant’s goods in the glorification and love of God, if that is possible. If not we can hold our peace and not fret about how Microsoft is selling their stuff.

I've just been finding it interesting reading the commentary on what Microsoft has been doing. Mostly, that seems to be ignoring their customer base in favor of a platform that glories DRM over "play". I find it fascinating (here's the butter) that MS is so willing to ignore what their customer base wants in favor of what it is telling them is "much better".

So now it will be fascinating to watch how things develop. Will MS back down on DRM and "always connected" in favor of what their consumers want or will they foist this current system on the market despite the numerous protests to the contrary?

We are absolutely watching the free market in action. I want to see if their consumers really mean what they say about the new XBox being "invasive". Gamers want to play, not "feed the beast". It remains to be seen if all of the stuff that MS is touting for the XBox will enhance the gamer experience or make it a cumbersome, unfun event.

All we know right now is something like 95% of the commentary is passionately against the Xbox one as it is being presented. Disregarding the wishes of one's customers is typically a bad idea. Let's see if there are any consequences to this.

11 posted on 06/18/2013 7:54:50 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>Hey, I think the Aztec was a beautiful kind of ugly. Howzat for fence sitting?<<

That thinking led to my 1st marriage...


12 posted on 06/18/2013 7:55:41 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: freedumb2003

You can sell a used car. Not suggested to sell a used wife.


13 posted on 06/18/2013 8:01:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Caipirabob

Hey if they push a turkey they will fail.


14 posted on 06/18/2013 8:02:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>Not suggested to sell a used wife.<<

It is the best way to get our from under alimony.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 8:06:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: freedumb2003

Now the divorce is no fault and the lawsuit comes afterwards for the child support which doesn’t even have to go to the child.


16 posted on 06/18/2013 8:08:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'm a little concerned about the always online thing. I know why they are justifying it, but it feels kind of like a chain, or an intentional lack of functionality that could easily be avoided.

The other problem is that it's not backwards compatible with many XBox 360 games...so you still need your old Xbox 360 to play them. Eventually the RROD will take the 360 to where old consoles go and then you're stuck with unplayable games or you buy a new 360 in addition to the new console.

I get what they're trying to do, but I'm skeptical about where this will go. They are attempting to make a central entertainment unit that does many things, but it's supposed to be a gaming console. If they dilute the gaming experience with "policy", it will be a lavish Thanksgiving indeed and MS will provide the turkey.

17 posted on 06/18/2013 8:13:15 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

*chuckle*

18 posted on 06/18/2013 8:13:57 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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19 posted on 06/18/2013 8:17:50 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

LOL - I’ve been greatly entertained by reading some of the articles online that permit readers to respond. You’d think there were villagers surrounding Microsoft with torches and pitchforks...


20 posted on 06/18/2013 8:20:42 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>Now the divorce is no fault and the lawsuit comes afterwards for the child support which doesn’t even have to go to the child.<<

Sadly, there is still spousal support. The original idea was to keep women who stayed at home for their entire lives from becoming destitute.

Of course, it became perverted by a legal system dedicated to cutting men’s gonads off.

In California, the “rule of thumb” is 40% of the difference in the net for 1/2 the length of the marriage (either party can be the higher wage earner and thus the payee). But that is only for marriages < 10 years. After that it is whatever the judge (guess the most frequent gender) decides is “fair.”

No fault (”Dissolution of Marriage”) merely removed the requirement of a specific harm done to the marriage which did not inhibit the divorce but rather assigned weight to spousal support (the “wronged” party ended up with substantial legal presumptions).

How do I know all this? When my lawyer told me to BOHICA, I fired his A and spent months in the law library teaching myself family law.

I represented myself in pro per and filed motions that ended up with the ex asking for the easiest way out.

What was funny was that on a personal level her lawyer and I got along great: he had my sense of humor and I could tell he despised my ex almost as much as me.

Since we settled after I filed a killer motion under the “rebuttable presumption of decreased need” under then Cal 4801.5(c) dealing with meretricious relationships (she was living with some guy), there wasn’t a conflict of interest.

Yes Virginia, there is an alimony.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 8:21:53 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: KarlInOhio
Xbox One: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move

"In the beginning, there was me!"

22 posted on 06/18/2013 8:23:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: Caipirabob

23 posted on 06/18/2013 8:24:02 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

>>You’d think there were villagers surrounding Microsoft with torches and pitchforks...<<

Wait.

There’s not?


24 posted on 06/18/2013 8:24:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: Caipirabob


25 posted on 06/18/2013 8:25:58 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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