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IRS manager says tea party groups not politically targeted (LIARS!!!)
la times ^ | 6/19/2013 | Joseph Tanfani

Posted on 06/19/2013 3:57:21 AM PDT by tobyhill

An Internal Revenue Service manager who described himself as a "conservative Republican" told congressional investigators that no one in the agency's Cincinnati office was trying to target tea party organizations for political reasons, according to an interview transcript released Tuesday.

The manager, John Shafer, said he and an employee in his screening unit decided to pull applications for tax-exempt status filed by political groups and send them to managers in Washington. He said they were aware of the controversy over the groups and wanted to ensure they were treated uniformly.

"Because of media attention that he had seen, he had concerns about this being a high-profile case," Shafer said. He said he believed the screening was motivated only by the need for "consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; irs; irsabuse; irsscandal; loislerner; propaganda; totalitarianism

1 posted on 06/19/2013 3:57:21 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

You have to wonder how they found this lying idiot.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 4:01:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

I call B.S. on this man. It’s a bit late, but the Damage Control people as still trying to contain the damage, both direct and collateral.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 4:02:13 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: tobyhill

The NJ Gov is a Republican too, that doesn’t make him a conservative.

obviously this guy doesn’t realize that claiming to be a member of the republican party doesn’t translate into conservative cred.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 4:02:22 AM PDT by dila813
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To: tobyhill

It’s funny because the IRS already ADMITTED that they did target Tea Party groups. They can’t seem to keep their stories straight.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 4:04:27 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: tobyhill

Yes and it was reported the elijah cummings lied and it was reported by chrissy matthews on mslsd. Even the demons can’t get behind this evil.

LLS


6 posted on 06/19/2013 4:04:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: dila813

According to the Lefty loons everything Republicans say is a lie anyway, so citing the words of a Rep. as evidence is really dumb.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 4:13:37 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: tobyhill

Rush calls these “Republicans” seminar callers.


8 posted on 06/19/2013 4:14:32 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: tobyhill

There was an IRS insider on the radio the other night.

He said the IRS is a top-heavy organization, low level employees activities are CONSTANTLY monitored, and policy ALWAYS gets set at the highest levels.


9 posted on 06/19/2013 4:18:06 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: tobyhill

IRS manager: “The sun always RISES in the West!”


10 posted on 06/19/2013 4:30:05 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: The Working Man

The IRS is piling a new lie on top hoping to cover up their original criminal activity. The trouble with a lie is it never fits the facts and there are always loose ends that don’t mesh, requiring yet another lie; until the whole house of cards collapses.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 4:30:20 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: tobyhill

Mr. Shafer doesn’t pass the smell test.

A local IRS manager just doesn’t decide to send taxpayer files off to Washington. There is always a discussion with immediate supervisors and perhaps the local director, plus discussion with Washington as to whether the planned action is necessary. That discussion covers all of the points of concern and those points are reduced to writing. Where are the associated e-mails?

And, too, these applications are entered into the computer system the day of arrival. The clock starts ticking looking for completion. Why was the system over ridden to permit a 2 year delay? Who approved the delays?

This also smells like Elijah Cummings and an effort to turn off the engine of a runaway scandal.


12 posted on 06/19/2013 4:34:03 AM PDT by plangent
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To: tobyhill

This is the meme the MSM will go forth with. Wait and see.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 4:35:56 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: tobyhill

so, they didn’t do what they ADMITTED doing now?

I see...


14 posted on 06/19/2013 4:39:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: tobyhill
Time for opposition research on John Shafer.
15 posted on 06/19/2013 4:46:23 AM PDT by John Freeman
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To: tobyhill; John Freeman; MestaMachine; hoosiermama; SE Mom
John Shafer: “conservative Republican”

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/irs-worker-called-to-testify-in-washington-worked-at-cincinnati-office-official-says

There are no records of political donations for the other four Cincinnati IRS workers called to give interviews with Oversight Committee staff this week.

The I-Team confirmed they are John Shafer, a screening manager who began in March 2012; Gary Muthert, a screener who also began in March 2012; Liz Hofacre, a case coordinator from April 2010 to October 2010; and Joseph Herr, a group manager from April 2010 to August 2010.

16 posted on 06/19/2013 5:15:12 AM PDT by maggief
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To: tobyhill; John Freeman; MestaMachine; hoosiermama; SE Mom
John Shafer: “conservative Republican”

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/irs-worker-called-to-testify-in-washington-worked-at-cincinnati-office-official-says

There are no records of political donations for the other four Cincinnati IRS workers called to give interviews with Oversight Committee staff this week.

The I-Team confirmed they are John Shafer, a screening manager who began in March 2012; Gary Muthert, a screener who also began in March 2012; Liz Hofacre, a case coordinator from April 2010 to October 2010; and Joseph Herr, a group manager from April 2010 to August 2010.

17 posted on 06/19/2013 5:15:13 AM PDT by maggief
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http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/06/18/irs-managers-interview-transcript-adds-little-to-debate/

The main new takeaways, for those following the IRS investigation:

- Mr. Shafer simply doesn’t recall some details of the early stages of the IRS scrutiny of tea party groups. By all accounts so far, the targeting of conservative groups started in his IRS unit in Cincinnati, which screened applications for tax-exempt status from around the country. In February 2010, one of Mr. Shafer’s screeners flagged a single tea-party group’s application for extra scrutiny, and Washington officials agreed that similar cases should be scrutinized to make sure they were not engaging in too much political campaign activity. But Mr. Shafer doesn’t recall several important details of what happened after the first tea-party case was identified.

- Mr. Shafer’s statements conflict in a few respects with those of other IRS employees interviewed in the congressional investigation. Mr. Shafer, for example, denies telling a screener to search for other “tea party” cases by name during early 2010. The screener has said otherwise.

- Mr. Shafer says that when higher-ups in Washington decided they were interested in reviewing the first tea-party case, he told workers that similar cases should be held, pending a decision about how to handle them. But he said he never said all tea-party cases should be held.

- The interview also provided evidence that IRS officials in Washington officials proposed taking a handful of the cases, and asked the Cincinnati office to hold the other similar cases. According to the transcript, an email to Mr. Shafer from March of 2010 says the Washington office “does not want all of the Tea Party cases. They only want two of them and want us to hold the remainder. We can discuss who should hold them if you would like.”


18 posted on 06/19/2013 5:18:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: John Freeman

This is a file with 4 pages of transcript

http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/First_Hand_Account_Origin_Of_Tea_Party_Screening.pdf

From this article:
Darrell Issa Furious After Democrat Releases IRS Transcript That Blows Up His Investigation

http://www.businessinsider.com/irs-scandal-transcripts-obama-tea-party-targeting-2013-6


19 posted on 06/19/2013 5:23:14 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: maggief

This guy IMO has some mental issues. A need to be noticed Narcism?


20 posted on 06/19/2013 5:30:45 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: tobyhill

21 posted on 06/19/2013 5:42:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: maggief; penelopesire; thouworm; SE Mom

Rand Paul on f&f trying the union and their anti republican / concervatives to the IRS actions! Spot on!


22 posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: maggief

The I-Team confirmed they are John Shafer, a screening manager who began in March 2012; Gary Muthert, a screener who also began in March 2012;
____________

On the pdf file at the bottom of page 1, John Shafer responds to a question about an email from Feb 25, 2010.

Apparently there is a discrepancy about when John Shafer was working in the department?


23 posted on 06/19/2013 6:06:19 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow; hoosiermama

Here is the full transcript:

http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/IRS_Screening_Manager_Part_I.pdf

pg 13

Frontline manager for 13 years

Started as rep in Taxpayer Service in 1992

pg 28

Non-union

pg 6

Three attorneys present for Shafer? What firm, and who pays for counsel??


24 posted on 06/19/2013 6:24:09 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief; hoosiermama

The so called ‘conservative’ dude only started in March 2012.....the targeting began long before that! Great find Maggie! Cummings released the info so they could all get their stories straight. He should be censored for that and thrown off the committee!


25 posted on 06/19/2013 6:25:01 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

See post #24.

That WCPO reports looks to be inaccurate.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 6:26:50 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Doctored?


27 posted on 06/19/2013 6:45:13 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: maggief

Or ? was he lying in the testimony?
Page 16 Was there a self correction in testimony from 2012 to being 2010?


28 posted on 06/19/2013 6:48:28 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: hoosiermama; MestaMachine; maggief; penelopesire; thouworm; SE Mom

IRS Preparing To Hand Out $70 Million In Union Bonuses Says Sen Grassley (R) - Stuart Varney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ecOUgbe6g

How to hold Washington accountable using the Racketeer Influence & Corrupt Organizations Act
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3033039/posts
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55953


29 posted on 06/19/2013 6:53:59 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow; penelopesire; hoosiermama

http://news.cincinnati.com/interactive/article/20130522/NEWS01/305230035/IRS-emails-Who-knew-what-when-

Email - From: Shafer, John H.

http://www.exchangeclubparentingskillscenter.com/pdf/Exchangeclub501c3file.pdf

Contact Person: John H. Shafer
(Dated: 1999)

???

http://ohio-voters.findthedata.org/l/3539930/John-Shafer-Cincinnati-OH

John H Shafer
(DOB) 1942
07/17/1989 Republican Party


30 posted on 06/19/2013 8:36:35 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

http://www.exchangeclubparentingskillscenter.com/pdf/Exchangeclub501c3file.pdf

Contact Person: John H. Shafer
(Dated: 1999)

Yes, John Shafer was the contact person on the document.

Did you notice that the above action started in 1995 and was not finished until 1999 ?? Or is there another conclusion ?


31 posted on 06/19/2013 8:59:04 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: tobyhill
This story is leftist smoke and mirrors. The IRS 'conservative' referred to involves ONE case in 2010 BEFORE the concerted effort to target and intimidate conservatives really got rolling. His testimony is anecdotal and irrelevant AND was only released to try and deflect the useful idiots attention.

Reading the actual testimony paints a story that is far different from the BS Obama water carrying story the media tries to paint with false characterizations, erroneous conclusions, and misleading headlines.

32 posted on 06/19/2013 12:03:21 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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