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Right rips Rubio as Republican immigration votes slip away
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Posted on 06/19/2013 5:35:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Right rips Rubio as Republican immigration votes slip away

By Alexander Bolton - 06/19/13 08:05 PM ET

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) is feeling the heat as potential GOP allies are now turning against his immigration reform bill.

Republican colleagues who were previously viewed as possible “yes” votes are keeping their distance from the 1,075-page measure.

On Wednesday, conservative activists ripped Rubio and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — both sponsors of the bipartisan immigration measure — at a Capitol Hill rally.

The crowd, which was protesting the bill’s effort to put millions of illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship, booed at the mention of Rubio’s name during the six-hour event.

The rally underscored the mounting opposition to the immigration reform bill among both grassroots conservatives and GOP senators.

Potential Senate Republican backing for the legislation has begun to evaporate because of deep skepticism over its border-security and enforcement provisions.

In recent weeks, senators on both sides of the aisle speculated that 70 members of the upper chamber might vote for the Senate bill. That tally is now seen as unattainable.

Republican Sens. Mitch McConnell (Ky.), Rand Paul (Ky.) and John Cornyn (Texas), who were once viewed as possible supporters of the bill, are now expected to reject it.

Rubio, a possible 2016 presidential candidate, is seen as essential to passing the measure, but his involvement hasn’t persuaded many of his GOP colleagues to back it.

Many GOP senators say they want far more border-security provisions in the bill.

Republican Sens. Bob Corker (Tenn.) and John Hoeven (N.D.) met Wednesday with members of the Gang of Eight, who drafted this bill, to negotiate a compromise on enforcement measures.

Corker told The Hill after the meeting that he and Hoeven thought there had been “substantial breakthroughs” with Democrats.

Corker and Hoeven declined to comment on the details of their proposal.

“We had a very positive morning, and we’re all now talking within our caucuses, and I’ll leave it at that,” Corker said.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), who has strongly defended the border-security language in the bill, said, “I’m not talking about any specifics.”

Senate Republican sources briefed on the talks said Corker, Hoeven and the Gang of Eight are mulling an increase of 20,000 border patrol agents along the southern border. This would nearly double the number of agents along the U.S.-Mexico border.

But the Corker-Hoeven push for allocating thousands of additional border agents appeared to change few minds within the Republican conference.

“I didn’t see it move many people. It’s not going to get me to vote for it,” said a lawmaker who attended a meeting at which Republican senators discussed the proposal. “I’m not going to vote for an immigration bill that doesn’t have a metric for securing the border.”

There is now growing uncertainty about whether Rubio — in the face of sustained criticism on the right — will end up voting for the Gang of Eight’s bill.

Rubio has declined to outline his plans, unlike other members of the Gang of Eight, such as Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who have pledged their support.

Rubio ducked a question Sunday during an interview on ABC’s “This Week” about whether he would vote for final passage.

“I don’t want to get involved in hypotheticals and ultimatums,” he said.

He held to that line on Wednesday, telling a reporter, “I’ve already discussed it.”

Rubio has said he wants to see what kind of improvements will be made to the legislation.

In response to the proposal to dramatically boost the number of border patrol agents, he said, “We’ll have more to say about that later.”

Rubio has endured a spate of critical press reports in recent days.

The New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza reported that an unnamed Rubio aide told him in an interview that some American workers “can’t cut it” as a rationale for giving visas to foreign workers.

Conservative press outlets who hold significant sway in presidential races have also criticized Rubio. For example, the right-leaning National Review has dubbed the senator’s efforts as “Rubio’s folly.”

Meanwhile, Rubio has distanced himself from other members of the Gang of Eight in recent weeks.

He has opted out of public appearances with them and did not join in Wednesday’s meeting with Corker and Hoeven, according to a person who attended.

Rubio’s staff says he is still aggressively selling the bill to conservatives.

The Florida senator appeared Wednesday morning on a national radio talk show hosted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and was scheduled to give a television interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity on Wednesday evening.

Rubio remains popular in his home state, giving him leeway to take a gamble on pushing landmark legislation.

There are also signs the prominence he’s taken in pushing immigration reform is doing him some political harm.

A Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday showed that Florida voters give him a 51 percent to 35 percent job approval rating.

Only 33 percent of all respondents said they approved of his handling of immigration reform, compared to 41 percent who disapproved.

Republicans, however, approved of his handling of immigration by a margin of 52 percent to 24 percent.

It appears increasingly unlikely the legislation will be able to meet the ambitious goal set by Schumer, McCain and Graham of passing with 70 votes.

Members of the Gang of Eight can now only be sure of 61 or 62 votes for final passage.

“Obviously, we want to get as large a vote as possible. We’re working on it. I think it’s clear there’s like 61 or 62 votes. What we want to do is grow it as much as possible,” McCain said.

McCain said he hoped the 70-vote goal was not overly ambitious.

The danger is that by setting such a lofty target at the outset, the bill may appear to be losing momentum if it barely clears the 60-vote threshold needed for passage.

Striking a deal with Corker and Hoeven on increasing border patrol agents by as many as 20,000 may not bring a flood of Republican votes, but at least it would secure the support of those two lawmakers.

That could, in turn, bring along Corker’s home-state colleague, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), a pragmatic deal-maker who leans toward the center.

Senate aides say if the Gang of Eight agrees to Corker’s and Hoeven’s demands to boost federal spending on border security, they will be expected to vote “yes.”

One critic of the bill called the Corker-Hoeven proposal a desperate “Hail Mary” to increase Republican support.

The Gang of Eight rejected a proposal by Cornyn to add 5,000 border patrol agents along the southern border during last month’s Judiciary Committee markup.


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Sink it..............
1 posted on 06/19/2013 5:35:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Conservatives in states with senators weakening on this abomination need to turn up the heat NOW! Push them into the solid “NO!” column.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 5:39:39 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: clintonh8r

I’d like to help but Juan McCain and his little buddy, the Flakester are beyond hope. They’re both ready for the loony bin.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 5:42:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This Democrat voter drive bill MUST be defeated!

The good news is that Rubio has clearly shown us what he is so there is no doubt he should NEVER be considered for higher office.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 5:43:13 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: FlingWingFlyer
the Flakester

And HOW did Arizona end up with this out and out CLOWN, with the idiot grin?

I know, I know....East Mesa voters.

But the rest of the State can't be that far gone...whatta mistake

5 posted on 06/19/2013 5:46:05 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Sub-Driver

“Senate Republican sources briefed on the talks said Corker, Hoeven and the Gang of Eight are mulling an increase of 20,000 border patrol agents along the southern border. This would nearly double the number of agents along the U.S.-Mexico border. “

Oh spare me. More bullshit window dressing on this pig of a bill. The agents will never be hired.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 5:46:30 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Rubios boat sprang a leak and there’s no land for miles. I hope he is not re-elected.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 5:47:25 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The wetback amnesty bill's future....and Rubio's career prospects (as a Republican,at least).

8 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Proud2BeRight
The good news is that Rubio has clearly shown us what he is so there is no doubt he should NEVER be considered for higher office

It's quite clear that Amnesty was the only reason he ran for office.

So now he's prey, and vulnerable to being Primaried.

West is talking about it and that's really great, but I suspect there are others who can displace Mr. Rubio.

Either way, he's on his way to political oblivion.

9 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:29 PM PDT by Regulator
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“Sink it..............”

Could this be Rubios plan all along.

He was pushing the crap in the bill out in the open. Nothing
better than letting the media use a republican to lead the
charge in exposing it. Tact? Maybe.
And the “8” ball says, “Concentrate and ask again”
Damn it!!!


10 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:57 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Sub-Driver

Rubio as president? No. Primary him out of the senate. We do not need this intern to the POS McCain anywhere near Washington.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 5:49:14 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Sub-Driver
60 votes are too-damn-many.

What is wrong with congress?

12 posted on 06/19/2013 5:52:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Regulator

Like father, like son. Jake wasn’t all that bright either. He pimped the 86 cents a pack tax on Arizona smokers. I imagine he would have gone after a big tax on coffee and Coca Cola if he had stayed around a little longer. And yes about those East Mesa voters.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 5:52:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: Regulator
West would be terrific!
14 posted on 06/19/2013 5:52:42 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: clintonh8r

Good news! Keep up the pressure people!


15 posted on 06/19/2013 5:52:47 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Slambat
Tact? Maybe.

Absolutely not.

We've got to stop kidding ourselves about these guys.

16 posted on 06/19/2013 5:53:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sub-Driver

I can’t believe so many Tea Party groups went to bat for this guy during his Senate campaign... the political equivalent of buying a lemon, I guess.


17 posted on 06/19/2013 5:54:14 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, keep up the pressure. This is too important to not

be involved. Instant citizenship/instant benefits.

Stop this bill/then we can primary the ones who betray us.


18 posted on 06/19/2013 5:54:44 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Sub-Driver

Parliment of WHORES.


19 posted on 06/19/2013 5:55:56 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: seacapn

So may could not stand Charlie Crist.

Rubio betrayed many here in Florida.


20 posted on 06/19/2013 5:55:57 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Sub-Driver

Dem presidential ticket for 2016: Rubio and Christie


21 posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:11 PM PDT by datura (When Democracy Fails, Vote From the Rooftops.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Rubio has said he wants to see what kind of improvements will be made to the legislation.

What a crock. There aren't likely to be any kind of improvements, Senator, because you keep voting against amendments to fix what's wrong with it!

22 posted on 06/19/2013 5:58:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, I’m not too sure anymore about Rubio (I thought he was the real deal, now I’m not so sure) but I’m not in agreement with the conservative “party line” on immigration either. I’m a libertarian in belief and a Republican in party, so I guess that makes me a feewheelin’ boy - free enough to believe and stand for what I believe American values are all about: life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue your dreams without government interference (or “help”).


23 posted on 06/19/2013 5:58:18 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Sub-Driver

Rube-E I E I O.

Fool was played by the Bushes.


24 posted on 06/19/2013 5:58:56 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Regulator

He was a pretty good Representative, so it came as quite a surprise when he turned on a dime before he was even sworn in.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 6:00:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: skeeter

Unions. They want the money and ‘community activists’ on the ground.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 6:02:58 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Sub-Driver
Rubio, a possible 2016 presidential candidate…

Fat chance now. He's a traitor to those who worked so hard to get him elected Senator. They won't be working for him again.

Perhaps he can get a batch of illegal aliens to do the heavy lifting next time.

27 posted on 06/19/2013 6:04:03 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: All

They don’t let the existing agents DO THEIR JOB anyway, so who cares if they hire more?


28 posted on 06/19/2013 6:06:05 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Sub-Driver
There is now growing uncertainty about whether Rubio — in the face of sustained criticism on the right — will end up voting for the Gang of Eight’s bill.

That's a crock of sh!t. He joined the Democrats in killing Grassley's amendment that would require border security before the amnesty.

29 posted on 06/19/2013 6:08:59 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Sub-Driver

We will never see a reform package without amnesty, because the rest is always window dressing to achieve amnesty.


30 posted on 06/19/2013 6:10:07 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Mortrey

Love it! I will use that henceforth to refer to the
world’s greatest deliberative body. I’m not kidding either.


31 posted on 06/19/2013 6:12:13 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: Regulator
And HOW did Arizona end up with this out and out CLOWN, with the idiot grin?

Sarah Palin endorsed him, so he fooled a lot of people. As an Arizona resident, now, she should have run for that seat, herself. Now she has to wait for Uncle Crankypants to retire from the other seat. :)

32 posted on 06/19/2013 6:15:38 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: umgud

Rubio is going to be Hilary’s VP on a bi-partisan ticket.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 6:17:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Now she has to wait for Uncle Crankypants to retire

Oh God, he's fossilized...gonna be another Strom Thurmond, carry him outta the Senate in a box

34 posted on 06/19/2013 6:23:37 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m of Hispanic blood and heritage and I agree. Sink this bill.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 6:32:05 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Sub-Driver

OT, sorry.

Bob Bauer—remember that name:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T98OYWvY5Pc#at=132


36 posted on 06/19/2013 6:32:42 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: skeeter

“We’ve got to stop kidding ourselves about these guys.”

All we have to do is turn the tide. Once we get the trend
moving and these jacka$$ moderates and not so moderates
think that its to their benefit to go conservative they will.
I’m not ready to write off Rubio yet. Let him learn his lesson.
If it sinks in he, may turn out all right.
If it doesn’t then he can go spoon a goose.


37 posted on 06/19/2013 6:33:32 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: 2111USMC

“He joined the Democrats in killing Grassley’s amendment that would require border security before the amnesty.”

And without that I don’t think it will pass. Do You?
Sabotage.


38 posted on 06/19/2013 6:36:22 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Sub-Driver

Rubio is a RINO who can speak Spanish.


39 posted on 06/19/2013 6:49:52 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Christie at the beach

no kidding but folks are going to have to give some yes/no questionaires that will BOX IN ANYONE WANTING A JOB IN DC. on immigration like:
“Do you believe Barbara Jordan was correct in saying: “deportation is crucial”?


40 posted on 06/19/2013 6:54:03 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I’d like to help but Juan McCain and his little buddy, the Flakester are beyond hope. They’re both ready for the loony bin.

This is how purple my state of AZ has become.
41 posted on 06/19/2013 7:03:30 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Sub-Driver

Don’t vote for it, Marco.


42 posted on 06/19/2013 7:06:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: PapaNew
Well, I’m not too sure anymore about Rubio (I thought he was the real deal, now I’m not so sure) but I’m not in agreement with the conservative “party line” on immigration either. I’m a libertarian in belief and a Republican in party, so I guess that makes me a feewheelin’ boy - free enough to believe and stand for what I believe American values are all about: life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue your dreams without government interference (or “help”).

Libertarianism in the economic sphere is only sustainable when other voters are libertarians like you. Amnesty will conjure up millions of new voters from Latin American countries who think Chavez-style socialism is the answer. The reality is that the people we're importing from the region vote overwhelmingly Democratic, which is what you'd expect from people who are eligible for Federally-mandated ethnic quotas, which are Jim Crow in reverse. Southerners supported Jim Crow for close to a century because it provided concrete benefits. Why would we expect Hispanics to react any differently?

43 posted on 06/19/2013 7:07:05 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Slambat

Suit yourself, but if we escape this damn campaign of his unscathed I don’t want him in a position to wreak this kind of damage on this country again.


44 posted on 06/19/2013 7:07:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
60 votes are too-damn-many.

Exactly! We've done a very good job but it's not over yet. Keep posting the emails, contact lists & petitions.

45 posted on 06/19/2013 7:13:50 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: americas.best.days...

Can’t take credit—P.J. O’Rouke said it. (had a book by that name, I think.)

But, it FITS, doesn’t it?


46 posted on 06/19/2013 7:16:17 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Sub-Driver
Striking a deal with Corker and Hoeven on increasing border patrol agents by as many as 20,000 may not bring a flood of Republican votes, but at least it would secure the support of those two lawmakers.

Means nothing. Even if 20,000 more BP agents were authorized, the president and executive branch still has to hire and deploy new agents. There were increases authorized which W never hired and deployed.

Anyone placing bets that Obama would hire and effectively utilize 20,000 more BP agents?

A physical fence is about the only thing that, once in place, the politicians can't remove whenever they feel like it. And it would actually be effective.

47 posted on 06/19/2013 7:16:44 PM PDT by Will88
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To: clintonh8r

Meanwhile in CT, Murphy’s staff will just hang up on you if you if you dare disagree.


48 posted on 06/19/2013 7:19:30 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Mortrey

P.J. O’Rourke...sorry. So pissed, I can’t spell!


49 posted on 06/19/2013 7:19:39 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Sub-Driver

61 or 62 fools.


50 posted on 06/19/2013 7:21:49 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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