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1 posted on 06/19/2013 5:37:16 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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No, because Echelon had been around for decades. The Gorelick wall would have prevented Prism, or any system, from intervention.

It's criminal irony she was on the 9/11 Commission.

2 posted on 06/19/2013 5:39:56 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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No, they only are looking at white christian males and completely ignoring muslims.
Muslims who have been 99% of terror perpetrators since, oh, 1970’s.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 5:41:33 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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...and even before 1970’s.

See: Barbary Pirates.
See also: how Mohammed conquered Mecca...


4 posted on 06/19/2013 5:42:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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It didn’t even prevent 4/15.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 5:43:02 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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No, because Muzzies are off limits. Just gotta keep an eye on those Christians and patriots - they’re real risks to national security (snark).


6 posted on 06/19/2013 5:43:13 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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My personal view is that preventing terrorism is only a minor consideration of the spying programs. They use anti-terrorism as the scare mongering tactic to get the funding. The primary goal of the spying is control with the endgame being a One World Government. As a side note, read Brad Thor’s new book Black List. He gives the inside on a lot of the nameless programs and people running them. He’s got an inside somewhere.


10 posted on 06/19/2013 5:50:27 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (UN Secretary General Barki-At-Moon says, "Save the planet - eat more bugs"!)
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They knew about the threat, just failed to act on it.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 5:51:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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The question is mostly mute, as the NSA dates from 1952, the year of it’s creaton, and Echelon was VERRRRRY well developed much longer than one full decade prior to 9-11.

The question is almost silly.


12 posted on 06/19/2013 5:55:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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Simply considering how ineffective the system was against a pair of terrorists in Boston who had already been identified by the Russian counter-terrorism agency, and pointed out to the US government, it is clear that it would not have found the 9/11 plotters.

Speculation about the past is just a way of distracting attention from the present. The NSA and FBI data collection systems failed totally. Apparently the terrorist who attempted to set off a bomb in Times Square bought his supplies at the same store in New Hampshire as "speed bump" and his brother. I doubt the Boston terrorists did anything to hide their planning. And they should have been suspects in a murder, along with apparently having friends with "terrorista" as their vanity license plate.

About the only thing lacking was a neon sign saying "terrorist" blinking over their apartment, and yet the government missed them totally.

13 posted on 06/19/2013 6:31:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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We ‘needed’ the patriot act so, no, it wasn’t supposed to stop 911...


14 posted on 06/19/2013 6:49:43 PM PDT by delchiante
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It couldn't even stop Fort Hood or Boston.

That's not the point of Prism.

It's more like "What I saw at the coup."

The Plan: DOJ + NSA + IRS = KGB


15 posted on 06/19/2013 7:56:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Just about to the same extent that it prevented the Ft. Hood terrorist attack and the Boston Bomber attack.


16 posted on 06/19/2013 9:20:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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The answer is NO!! They had Able Danger, which uncovered the 9/11 plot and they did nothing. They had the 20th hijacker's laptop and wouldn't look at it. They had reports of Arabs at flying schools, learning to fly multi-engine jets, but uninterested in learning to take off or land.

They had already uncovered the 9/11 plot and were unwilling to see it.

You can't fix stupidity.

17 posted on 06/20/2013 5:22:35 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (The Stupid Party, they've earned it.)
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Big difference between “might have” and “would have”.


18 posted on 06/20/2013 8:18:41 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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