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Military to Scrap $7B in Gear [Obama Wasting Resources]
newser.com ^ | 6/20/13 | John Johnson

Posted on 06/20/2013 6:39:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The US is going to destroy about $7 billion worth of military equipment in Afghanistan because it would cost too much money to ship it home or because the gear wouldn't be of much use anymore, reports the Washington Post. That includes about 2,000 hulking MRAPs—mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles that cost $1 million apiece. The excess equipment is being turned into scrap metal.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: debt; military; mrap; sequester; waste
I thought we were in sequester....Obama is destroying million dollar vehicles.
1 posted on 06/20/2013 6:39:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

At least that’s 2000 armored vehicles that won’t be given to the Oppossum Hollow SWAT team.


2 posted on 06/20/2013 6:40:56 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SoFloFreeper
What is the cost of bringing it back here?

What is the cost of buying a new one?

3 posted on 06/20/2013 6:41:38 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Why not give it all to the Chinese and declare debt. paid?


4 posted on 06/20/2013 6:46:38 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: FreeAtlanta; ArrogantBustard

5 posted on 06/20/2013 6:47:58 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I know they did something quite similar at the end of World War II. Especially in the Pacific Theater, but my B.S. Detector is going off! Just because they say they are destroyed doesn’t make it so. A simple computer entry and they are destroyed and later on the “new” owners just stop by to pick them up.

So D*MNNED much waste and Fraud upon the Taxpayers of the United States.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 6:49:05 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SoFloFreeper

so Cash for Clunkers was sort of a Beta Test....


7 posted on 06/20/2013 6:49:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ArrogantBustard

Seems like it wouldn’t take too many 1 million dollar vehicles to contract with a shipping line to bring them back.


8 posted on 06/20/2013 6:50:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Tijeras_Slim

2,000 hulking MRAPs—mine-resistant ....”

they will send them back here to be used....or store them there until they need them....(?)


9 posted on 06/20/2013 6:50:44 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I hope the military has someone on hand to make certain this equipment is destroyed BTW. It would be tragic if it started showing up in Syria.


10 posted on 06/20/2013 6:51:55 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

$7B sounds like a lot but at the current rate of QE that is less than 4 days deficit spending.


11 posted on 06/20/2013 6:54:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: skeeter
It would be tragic if it started showing up in Syria.

O*******bama wouldn't see it that way.

12 posted on 06/20/2013 6:54:58 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

To be parked along the runways in Kabul, Kandahar and Bagram, next to the rusting Soviet equipment, which is probably sitting on top of 19th century era British equipment.


13 posted on 06/20/2013 6:57:42 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

oh man! I wanna MRAP!!! who’d fight me for a parking space?


14 posted on 06/20/2013 7:01:21 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just imagine the scrap value of the metals alone.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 7:01:31 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SoFloFreeper

After WWII the Navy dropped brand new aircraft, fork lifts, bulldozers and million$ in other equipment into the ocean rather than bring them home to sell as surplus.


16 posted on 06/20/2013 7:06:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Most MRAPS won’t be coming home from Afghanistan
Apr. 18, 2013 - 12:55PM

" In recent years, the U.S. military has expanded its requests for Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, a more agile competing technology."
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20130418/NEWS/304180021/Most-MRAPS-won-8217-t-coming-home-from-Afghanistan

Cash for Clunkers. Spurs economy. Environmental friendly. Won't be needed in Syria. /s

17 posted on 06/20/2013 7:10:37 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Couldn’t he give the equipment to Al Quaeda or the Taliban or some other sworn enemy of US? This would be a very efficient means of advancing the Administration agenda of promoting America’s downfall.


18 posted on 06/20/2013 7:13:55 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Probably really sending the stuff to AQ in Syria.


19 posted on 06/20/2013 7:13:55 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: skeeter
Remember Afcrapistan is land locked, one crappy highway and has no rail system. Trucking is done through Pakistan or some other “stan”. Most were air freighted in an an enormous cost.
20 posted on 06/20/2013 7:14:10 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SoFloFreeper

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/

The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.
*********


21 posted on 06/20/2013 7:16:03 AM PDT by deport
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To: SoFloFreeper
Sportsman's Guide could sell the stuff in three months.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 7:19:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The shame is that all that equipment could be brought home and used to kill US citizens. Now they’ll have to build new ones.


23 posted on 06/20/2013 7:20:15 AM PDT by lurk
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To: haffast
Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV)

"JLTV mobility and transportability requirements give commanders the flexibility to traverse diverse terrain across the global operational spectrum, as well as providing the option of rotary wing airlift."
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/jltv.html

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/jltv/jltv-press-releases.html

24 posted on 06/20/2013 7:20:30 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And the Taliban move back in. Talk about waste....


25 posted on 06/20/2013 7:21:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SoFloFreeper

We’re looking for partner nations throughout Afghanistan to provide these to them as a donation, as extra defense articles,” Faulkner said. “We plan on only keeping those that we believe are absolutely necessary to minimize our risk.”


Headline implication does not match the article


26 posted on 06/20/2013 7:23:30 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: deport

According to the following article some 24,000 MRAPs were
produced and the production line is now closed.

http://nation.time.com/2012/10/02/the-mrap-brilliant-buy-or-billions-wasted/

Oct 2, 2012
The MRAP: Brilliant Buy, or Billions Wasted?


27 posted on 06/20/2013 7:24:02 AM PDT by deport
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To: SoFloFreeper

7 Billion? That would have paid for at least three more Obama Grand Tours of the World.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 7:28:34 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: haffast
"On 29 October 2008, the Pentagon narrowed the field of vendors to the Lockheed Martin, General Tactical Vehicles and BAE Systems/Navistar teams to compete for the final version and contract for the JLTV. Each team received contracts worth between $35.9 million and $45 million to begin the second phase of the program, which could ultimately be worth $20 billion or more.[21] On 17 February 2009, the Government Accounting Office denied the protests.[22]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Light_Tactical_Vehicle
29 posted on 06/20/2013 7:30:21 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast

Yea.. of course... where in the world could we POSSIBLY EVER need one of these things again???? /sarc


30 posted on 06/20/2013 7:35:51 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: haffast
Despite sequester, Joint Light Tactical Vehicle program on track
Jun 18, 2013, 1:30pm EDT

"Despite ongoing budget uncertainty, the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle is on track to deliver a low-rate-initial product award to a single vendor in fiscal 2015, Army and Marine Corps officials say, DOD Buzz reports."

"The JLTV's technology development phase helped refine and mature requirements for the program and lower per-unit costs to $250,000 per vehicle."

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/blog/fedbiz_daily/2013/06/despite-sequester-joint-light.html

31 posted on 06/20/2013 7:36:55 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Iron Munro

I can read it now: “These MRAP parts kits have been pre-tested and may show normal wear. We can’t say they are “new and unissued”, but they are darn well close to that. Includes everything but wheels, engine and armaments. Get yours now!


32 posted on 06/20/2013 7:37:15 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: haffast
Pentagon phasing out MRAPs, but bomb threat remains
Jun. 19, 2013

"The Pentagon is doing its best to make Mine Resistant Ambush Protected trucks - which saved thousands of lives in Iraq and Afghanistan - part of the past. The Army plans to sell off 13,000 of its 21,000-vehicle fleet of MRAPs and mothball about 4,000 others, Gen. Ray Odierno, the Army chief of staff, told Congress this spring. It will keep about 4,000 MRAPs for use by troops who clear roads of improvised explosive devices."

"The Pentagon envisions the JLTV to be the best of many worlds: light enough for Marines to transport by helicopter, strong enough to protect troops and affordable enough to replace tens of thousands of Humvees. The base cost, without added armor, is $250,000 per truck, while basic MRAPs averaged $500,000. The Army wants 20,000 of them."
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/usatoday/article/2437661

33 posted on 06/20/2013 8:07:06 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Sender
I can read it now:
“These MRAP parts kits have been pre-tested and may show normal wear.
We can’t say they are “new and unissued”, but they are darn well close to that.
Includes everything but wheels, engine and armaments. Get yours now!"

"Please note: Heavy/Bulky shipping charges from distribution facility apply."


34 posted on 06/20/2013 8:11:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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