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Immigration reformers embrace once-unthinkable expansion of border personnnel
The Washington Examiner ^ | June 20, 2013 | Byron York

Posted on 06/21/2013 5:58:06 AM PDT by don-o

On June 12, Republican Sens. John Cornyn and John McCain, along with Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer, got into an argument that was pretty heated, at least by the standards of the Senate floor. The subject of their debate was an amendment proposed by Cornyn to strengthen the border security provisions in the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill.

Among other measures, Cornyn proposed adding 5,000 new border patrol agents, along with 5,000 new customs officers, for a total of 10,000 new security positions. The Gang of Eight bill would add no new Border Patrol agents at all, and 3,500 Customs officers, meaning Cornyn was suggesting creating 6,500 positions above and beyond the Gang bill.

That was too much for McCain and Schumer, both Gang members. "If you are adding either additional border patrol or customs agents ... where does your money come from?" McCain asked Cornyn. "We are talking about personnel costs that are incredibly expensive."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration
So imagine Cornyn's surprise when, eight days later, McCain and Schumer took to the Senate floor to celebrate a new plan that would add not 5,000, not 10,000, but 20,000 new border patrol agents on the U.S.-Mexico border.

The plan was part of a new amendment, authored by Republican Sens. John Hoeven and Bob Corker, that sought to strengthen the Gang of Eight's security plan in a way that could win both parties' support. "The idea that broke the logjam is the border surge," Schumer said. Adding 20,000 new border patrol agents, he declared, is an idea "breathtaking in its size and scope."

Cornyn stood nearby, incredulous.

1 posted on 06/21/2013 5:58:06 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

http://www.wnd.com/2006/08/37367/


2 posted on 06/21/2013 5:59:58 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: don-o

What a farce.


3 posted on 06/21/2013 6:02:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: don-o

They embraced that 30 years ago too. I’ll believe it when I see it.


4 posted on 06/21/2013 6:03:48 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: skeeter
Shameless and an insult to the "intelligence" of the American people.

I know, I know.

5 posted on 06/21/2013 6:05:15 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

WHO CARES how many police are on hand when there is NO INTENT WHATSOEVER to enforce the law?

Is this all just a joke?


6 posted on 06/21/2013 6:10:00 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: don-o

What good does expansion of the Patrol do when their hands are tied to keep border hoppers from coming across the border and giving our guys a one finger salute?


7 posted on 06/21/2013 6:14:15 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Flintlock

Exactly. It’s all eyewash.


8 posted on 06/21/2013 6:15:54 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: don-o

All lies, just like in 2007. Expect them to quickly defund the new border agents just like they did with the fence in 2007.


9 posted on 06/21/2013 6:20:40 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: freeangel

Oh they will be busy. Building camp fires and handing out water to the Invading Hoards...

These people are disgusting.


10 posted on 06/21/2013 6:24:58 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: don-o; mickie; flaglady47; pax_et_bonum
"Farce" is right.

5,000, 10,000, 20,000 new border personnel?.....what difference does it make?

They'll all end up, along with addtional voters in their families, as another PATRONAGE army for the Demonrat Party (which is going to end up as the ONLY party after amnesty).

If anyone thinks different, please explain WHY.

Leni

11 posted on 06/21/2013 6:32:51 AM PDT by MinuteGal (SO)
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To: Timber Rattler

Timber Rattler ~:” Expect them to quickly defund the new border agents just like they did with the fence in 2007.”

(from the article): “So imagine Cornyn’s surprise when, eight days later, McCain and Schumer took to the Senate floor to celebrate a new plan that would add not 5,000, not 10,000, but 20,000 new border patrol agents on the U.S.-Mexico border. “

They won’t defund the money for the additional staff
They will do the same thing that Kay Bailey Hutchinson (RHINO / R, Tex. ) did years ago ..
They will re-allocate the money elsewhere to further the administration’s socialist agenda.
Already , the administration has prosecuted 2 Border Agents for “violating the civil rights” of two drug smugglers.
There are already new ‘Rules of Engagement’ for Border Agents which prevent agents from performing their duty.
I imagine the new border agents will be used to keep citizens in , rather than keep immigrants out !

As with all previous legislation proposed by Schumer in the past , .. “FOLLOW THE MONEY ! “


12 posted on 06/21/2013 6:36:37 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: don-o

700 miles of double fencing were authorized in 2006, but never built. Then almost 1,000 new BP agents were authorized during that same timeframe, but never hired.

Who believes Obama would hire and effectively deploy thousands of new BP agents? This is just more lies and ruses from many of the same con men who said about the same thing in 1986, and several more times since.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 6:45:16 AM PDT by Will88
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To: don-o

Would you buy a used car from any of these buffoons on Capitol Hill?


14 posted on 06/21/2013 6:50:44 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain and "The Flake" have got to go.)
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To: don-o

Laaura Ingraham on O’Rielly last night said the agents would be paid for by an accounting trick that would never occur—like using the money saved by cutting the deficit or some such.

These agents will be ghost agents. Never hired


15 posted on 06/21/2013 7:13:02 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: don-o

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3033973/posts?page=2


16 posted on 06/21/2013 7:15:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: skeeter

McCain has to be one of the biggest Pieces of feces ever born.


17 posted on 06/21/2013 7:36:53 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: don-o

Why? They’re just gonna sit around in offices shuffling paper until they qualify for a pension. Will pay lots of union dues to fund the Democrat Party in the meanwhile.


18 posted on 06/21/2013 8:00:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is definitely caveat emptor. At this point I wouldn’t buy this lemon from them if they threw in clear-coat, undercoating, floor mats and an eight-track player.
And a Herb Albert 8 track tape.


19 posted on 06/21/2013 8:03:57 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Durbin
They embraced that 30 years ago too. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Yep and I watched it first hand. When they pushed for the first immigration reform every year they would include 1,000 new Border Patrol Agents in the budget, them they would never fund them. They could them go back to their districts and claim they supported strong border enforcement.

When I joined the BP in 1985 we had 2,300 agents to cover the entire US. Today they have 21,000 agents and they don't catch any more aliens than we did back then.

Additionally, this "border trigger" nonsense of 90% apprehension rate is a complete joke. You can't count what you don't see and apprehend. Anyone who says they can estimate the number of aliens who were not apprehended during a given time is lying or just pulling numbers out of their butt. There is no way to verify such a stat.

20,000 more agents (in the unlikely event they actually fund them) will achieve nothing so long as illegal aliens can still get jobs. Congress knows this because they have done this before. This is all a scam.

During the 1986 immigration reform when it appeared that the US was going to actually enforce employer sanctions apprehensions dried up fast. Only after it became apparent that the government was not enforcing the law did the apprehensions began to steadily increase. Until E-Verify is implemented nation wide this is all just a big joke on us.

20 posted on 06/21/2013 8:43:31 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: usurper

You don’t have to go back to 1986. Just look at 2003. Congress approves of border fence funding for 700 miles. By 2006, the new Congress shelved that funding and we ended up with a whopping 30 miles of border fence.


21 posted on 06/21/2013 8:48:12 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin

In October 2006, Bush signed legislation approving 700 miles of fence along the Mexican border that the Senate, of which Obama was a member, approved in September. That’s the bill from which the 30 miles was constructed . In 2007, they stopped building.


22 posted on 06/21/2013 8:56:00 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Ok, I couldn’t remember the year. Thanks. pretty sad it was stopped barely a year into it. there’s a reason we don’t buy into this crap they are trying to feed us today.


23 posted on 06/21/2013 9:01:55 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin
Yup.....we know when we're being fed a sh@t sandwich. Too bad most Americans only see a free lunch.
24 posted on 06/21/2013 9:08:17 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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