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To: BCW

Those are spectacular photos, but tragic ones. Thanks for posting them.

We lost that war. I was there when Saigon was evacuated, our tails between our legs.

Pyrotechnics don’t win wars. Technology doesn’t win wars. Body counts don’t win wars. Winning battles doesn’t even win wars.

We won WWII - none since. We’re losing our current one(s). That’s the jist of it.


6 posted on 06/21/2013 7:40:37 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux
“We won WWII - none since. “

First, thank you for service. But I think you, like others here, are too cynical on this issue. We no more lost the Korean War than the War of 1812, both of which simply ensured the status quo ante. Most wars do not end with unconditional surrender and occupation of the enemy's nation like WWII.

I would go so far as to say we did not lose Vietnam. In that case, Democrats in the government made a conscious decision to abandon an ally after the preservation of the allied regime was secured by hard fought efforts of the armed forces.

10 posted on 06/21/2013 8:14:35 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dagogo redux
BULL$*&T!!! You won but the politicans lost which meant we all lost. You are one of millions of heroes of our time. We owe you more than you know.

Never forget there are MORE with you than against you. God Bless.

11 posted on 06/21/2013 8:27:12 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 9 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: dagogo redux

You did not lose that war. The Democrats conspired with their communist allies and they betrayed us and you.

Beware the enemy within.


12 posted on 06/21/2013 8:33:16 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: dagogo redux

I was there too, ‘66-67’ when US troop morale was still high. Unfortunately,I’m convinced that, as what happened in ‘Nam will repeat in Afghanistan.

The NVA and the VC were driven by their ideology and dedication to their cause and defeated a US backed military that was led by corrupt officers and a corrupt government.

I see a repeat of this in Afghanistan.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 8:42:57 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: dagogo redux
Men win war. From the politician down to the rifleman.

We must remember never to get involved in a war unless we choose to win it.

15 posted on 06/21/2013 9:40:47 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: dagogo redux
Actually despite our best efforts to lose the war the US and SVN won. NV broke the peace accords in 72, and were sent back north badly hurt.

Democrats cut off virtually all military aid and gave the go ahead to take SVN.

Sorta like what commander zero is doing in Afcrapistan and Iraq. Surrender after victory.

19 posted on 06/21/2013 11:38:38 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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