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Senators Hoeven and Corker Wave the White Flag of Surrender (Gun Owners of America)
Gun Owners of America ^ | 6-21-2013 | Gun Owners of America

Posted on 06/21/2013 10:16:21 AM PDT by servo1969

Senators John Hoeven (R-ND) and Bob Corker (R-TN) have made anti-gun New York Senator Chuck Schumer a very happy man. They are frantically working to give Schumer the 70 votes he needs to send his amnesty bill to the House with momentum.

And, if that bill were to be signed into law, it would add 8.4 million anti-gun voters to the rolls, and make gun registration, bans, and confiscation inevitable within 20 years.

Here’s where we stand:

Schumer’s original slimy deal was supposed to be this: We will add 8.4 million anti-gun Democratic voters to the rolls, but, in exchange, we will secure the border. It would supposedly do this by more fence and more federal agents.

Now the partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has come back with its numbers: On the one hand, 8 million (mostly anti-gun) illegal immigrants would be eligible for citizenship. And these are the figures from the liberal CBO!

On the other hand, said the CBO, illegal immigration would remain largely unaffected by the bill’s fencing and agents, going down a paltry 25%.

It was pretty apparent that Senate Republican negotiators had lost their shirts, even if you trust the liberal CBO.

So Hoeven and Corker began to negotiate over a path to pass Schumer’s anti-gun bill with a super-majority. A little more fence. A few more agents. A more Orwellian E-Verify system. But the big issue was whether to hold up citizenship for the 8.4 million anti-gun voters until illegal immigration had demonstrably been reduced by 90%. Schumer & Co. adamantly refused to agree to this.

Why? If Schumer had any expectation that the Obama administration was going to tighten the border, why would he be so averse to guaranteeing that result?

It was obvious to everyone that Schumer didn’t expect the border to ever be secure, and that was the reason he wasn’t willing to condition his 8.4 million anti-gun voters on quantifiable border security.

So what did Corker and Hoeven do? They agreed to turn the 90% border security REQUIREMENT into a 90% border security non-binding GOAL.

It should have told them something that every liberal analyst in town has been deliriously happy over the Hoeven-Corker sell-out.

ACTION: Contact your U.S. Senators. Tell them to oppose the Hoeven-Corker sell-out.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: North Dakota; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 113th; amnesty; banglist; corker; goa; guncontrol; hoeven; illegals; secondamendment
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1 posted on 06/21/2013 10:16:22 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Senators Hoeven and Corker Wave The White Flag . . .

. . . and that’s why we have primaries . . . let’s start looking for some conservative candidates to run against them in the primaries.


2 posted on 06/21/2013 10:18:29 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

We can’t do that! We have to keep electing lesser evils because if they get primaried the democrats could win and help Scumer pass more gun bills and amnesty!!!! And what would we do then?

Oh wait...


3 posted on 06/21/2013 10:21:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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4 posted on 06/21/2013 10:21:20 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

thanks for this post ....if conservatives in washington had any clue how to frame an issue this is how they would do it ...but, they’re stupid

amnesty =2016 Dem president

2016-2020 Dem president+1 conservative justice retiring=bye bye guns


5 posted on 06/21/2013 10:26:14 AM PDT by thestob (Marco Rubio is a liar, and he thinks that you're a fool)
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To: servo1969
Democrats and Republicans ride in the same limo...

Like TV wrestling, as the audience of fools applaud the masked pretenders, as they go through their choreographed rehearsed moves...

6 posted on 06/21/2013 10:31:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: servo1969

What is the matter with people in TN who vote to be represented by the ferret-faced Corker???


7 posted on 06/21/2013 10:36:44 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: servo1969

I saw them pushing this ammendment earlier on Fox News. They look like two used car salesment trying to sell somebody an Edsel.


8 posted on 06/21/2013 10:44:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: servo1969
Saw this elsewhere:
THE RUBIO-SCHUMER SHAMNESTY BILL: Why Gun Owners Should Be Very, Very Concerned [GOA] http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-rubio-schumer-shamnesty-bill-why.html For starters, why should gun owners care about immigration amnesty? First: It will add up to a net 8.4 million anti-gun voters in the next 13 years or so. This could make comprehensive gun control and confiscation inevitable within our lifetimes. Second: Victory feeds on itself; but so does defeat. If anti-gun Senator Chuck Schumer passes this bill out of the Senate with a strong bipartisan majority, he has already said he intends to bring gun control back by the end of the summer. Obama would emerge from the fight reenergized to take away your guns. Third: If people get used to having to have the government's permission to get a job -- even to clean your house or mow your lawn -- it will be a lot harder to fight universal background checks and gun registries. Fourth: There is the concern that the bill will create a de facto National ID card. In a Saturday New York Times article entitled, “Fears of National ID with Immigration Bill,” some in Congress have openly worried about the “potential for another sprawling data network that could ultimately be the equivalent of a national ID system.” Gun Owners of America has long opposed anything that smacks of this because of the danger that such data collection poses to gun owners’ privacy. ACTION: Contact your Senators. Tell them the anti-gun amnesty bill needs to be plucked up by the roots without trying to sweeten it with phony "border security" measures.

9 posted on 06/21/2013 10:48:42 AM PDT by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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To: servo1969
And, if that bill were to be signed into law, it would add 8.4 million anti-gun voters to the rolls, and make gun registration, bans, and confiscation a second revolution inevitable within 20 years.

Fixed.

10 posted on 06/21/2013 10:52:54 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: servo1969
It was obvious to everyone that Schumer didn’t expect the border to ever be secure

Its obvious to everyone including the Republicans that are going to allow this monstrosity to pass.

11 posted on 06/21/2013 10:54:28 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: servo1969; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; Kaslin; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; Liz; ...
And, if that bill were to be signed into law, it would add 8.4 million anti-gun voters to the rolls...

8 million is just the start. And they would elect not only anti-gun legislators/POTUSes, but also pro-abortion, bigger spending, "hate crimes" for every left-favored group....

12 posted on 06/21/2013 10:58:17 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: servo1969

Corker is my senator. What I will tell him is that he no longer has my support or vote. I will vote for Harold Ford Jr. before He gets my vote again.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 11:10:58 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: dragnet2
Democrats and Republicans ride in the same limo...

Like TV wrestling, as the audience of fools applaud the masked pretenders, as they go through their choreographed rehearsed moves...

Isn't that the truth.

Like many here, I'm fairly confident we can triple the numbers being used by the pro-amnesty crowd. That being the case, I just don't see any way our current governmental system will be able to survive the strain.

As I'm far from being smart and even I can foresee the consequences of amnesty for this many illegal aliens, what is the true objective of those pushing this plan?

14 posted on 06/21/2013 11:16:54 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Coldwater Creek

Noooo. I’m from Memphis and you don’t want a Ford in the Senate. Trust me.

Better option primary Corker. Find a solid Conservative and run him/her against Corker. Last election the Conservative vote was divided between 2 candidates and Corker won.


15 posted on 06/21/2013 11:22:05 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yep


16 posted on 06/21/2013 11:23:07 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: servo1969

The “rule of law” is dead. Anarchy is the order of the day. America is no more; welcome to Acirema where criminals are rewarded and citizens are punished.

Have you been fitted for your chains?


17 posted on 06/21/2013 11:42:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: servo1969

Tar and feathering needs to come back in vogue.


18 posted on 06/21/2013 11:58:09 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: servo1969

They’ve planned the Senate cloture vote on Monday at 530pm so we’ll find out where folks stand then.

They may be voting under “the cover” of the Supreme Court Gay Marriage decision with less attention on their vote, but I will be taking names......


19 posted on 06/21/2013 12:00:38 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: AtlasStalled

I thought TN elected conservatives.


20 posted on 06/21/2013 12:13:42 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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