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Border Fence Sets Up Impossible Barrier To Entry For Immigrants.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/06/20/kirsten_powers_i_dont_want_to_live_in_a_country_that_has_a_fence_around_it.html ^

Posted on 06/21/2013 11:03:22 AM PDT by Durbin

KIRSTEN POWERS: I don't support even the concept of a trigger. We're so apart on that. The trigger is set up to keep people from coming into this country essentially because there will never be a point where the border will be certified as being safe as Republicans want to be because there are so many Republicans who don't want these people coming into the country. So, I just think it sets up an impossible barrier to entry for immigrants. ME: Well obviously it does if said immigrant is trying to sneak over here. I.E. Illegally.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 06/21/2013 11:03:22 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin

Real Clear Idiot...


2 posted on 06/21/2013 11:04:31 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Durbin
Dick Durbin is an enemy alien who has described members of the US military as SS types.

He's not worth discussing unless it's how long he should spend in prison, or how he should be waterboarded.

3 posted on 06/21/2013 11:05:46 AM PDT by muawiyah (All the illegals are already citizens. They have countries they can flee to. We Americans don't!)
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To: Durbin

She just destroyed my illusion of regaining our sovereignty. She makes a good point for an idiot.


4 posted on 06/21/2013 11:07:46 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: muawiyah

“Dick Durbin is an enemy alien who has described members of the US military as SS types.”

Are you referring to my account name? Which happens to be the name of my dog BTW.


5 posted on 06/21/2013 11:08:01 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin
'scuse ~ KIrsten Power ~ same problem ~ just Dick Durbin with breasts.

These people are so tiresome. Why don't they go to Saudi ~ they don't have any fences (Bwahahahahaha)

6 posted on 06/21/2013 11:08:02 AM PDT by muawiyah (All the illegals are already citizens. They have countries they can flee to. We Americans don't!)
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To: Durbin

The solution then is to force their country to take care of them so they don’t need to come in.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 11:08:29 AM PDT by edcoil (When given a choice, take both.)
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To: Durbin

Your dog is a poor innocent critter. Why not name him Richard Nixon ~


8 posted on 06/21/2013 11:08:45 AM PDT by muawiyah (All the illegals are already citizens. They have countries they can flee to. We Americans don't!)
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To: Durbin

Krauthammer must have been thinking, “I always wondered what my cat would say if he could talk.”


9 posted on 06/21/2013 11:08:59 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Durbin

Then its doing what is supposed to do...create a barrier for entry...yes..
They put up a border fence in ISRAEL and suddenly there were almost zero guys walking into pizza places with suicide vests because they could ot get thru the fence with them. Amen!
Freegards
LEX


10 posted on 06/21/2013 11:09:12 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: muawiyah

“Your dog is a poor innocent critter. Why not name him Richard Nixon ~”

Let’s just say he wasn’t named after a politician. Actually didn’t even cross my mind.


11 posted on 06/21/2013 11:10:08 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin
So what she's saying is it's okay to have the law as long as it doesn't have to be enforced.

The cheap labor interests are still trying to play us. The primary issue is getting invaders out of the US. The border security is how we keep them out. Once the invaders are out of the US and can't get back in illegally, then we can talk about people applying for residency...from their homelands.

12 posted on 06/21/2013 11:11:21 AM PDT by grania
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To: Conspiracy Guy

The trigger is a gimmick. She is right about that.
At least when Reagan did amnesty he was honest enough to call it what it was.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 11:11:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Durbin

oh, thank goodness. wouldn’t want to think someone was wandering about loose mumbling Dick Durbin Dick Durbin Dick Durbin ~ that’d be horrible!


14 posted on 06/21/2013 11:12:06 AM PDT by muawiyah (All the illegals are already citizens. They have countries they can flee to. We Americans don't!)
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To: tumblindice

My talking cat, Agnew, would say something far more sensible than anything Kirsten can mumble.


15 posted on 06/21/2013 11:13:30 AM PDT by muawiyah (All the illegals are already citizens. They have countries they can flee to. We Americans don't!)
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To: grania

Just guessing Kirstin is into lineups of cabana boys or something. Definitely a strange person.


16 posted on 06/21/2013 11:14:34 AM PDT by muawiyah (All the illegals are already citizens. They have countries they can flee to. We Americans don't!)
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To: Durbin
POWERS: Who there is nothing you can do to get him to agree these people should ever come into the country.

That illustrates some of the stupidity in this debate that is often present, but seldom pointed out.

Does Powers think that everyone ("these people") who wants to "ever come into this country" should be able to come? That's what she's saying. They must be able to come at some point of Sessions is just a big meanie.

What most never say is that, NO, we can never allow all what want to come to the US to come. And some (Hannity) who constantly say "just go home and come back the right way" imply, again, that anyone who wants to come should be able to come if the just do it "the right way".

All nonsense. We have to restrict how many can come here or we'd be overrun with many millions per year, far beyond the 1.5 - 2 million coming legally and illegally now.

Having a sensible immigration means saying NO to more than we say yes to. And it's a permanent NO, or else we might as well just surrender the country to whatever mob can come here and gain the upper hand.

17 posted on 06/21/2013 11:15:09 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Durbin

Nonsense.
They can drive to a border checkpoint in Arizona, show their ‘laser visa’ and say they are going shopping in Tucson for a few days. They then drive elsewhere and stay longer.

They can fly into any airport and get an automatic tourist visa and say they are going to disney world, and then get a fake ID and work at Newark airport.

They can ‘come and go all the time’ and then, shortly after their nephew’s inauguration, claim they are fleeing political persecution in a country that is led by the person who your nephew campaigned for.

...


18 posted on 06/21/2013 11:15:45 AM PDT by posterchild
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Of course it helps if you are willing to SHOOT people trying to force entry, too.
I wish we were.


19 posted on 06/21/2013 11:18:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Durbin

Does she lock her front door ? Maybe she should remove her front and back door .


20 posted on 06/21/2013 11:19:14 AM PDT by molson209
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To: Durbin

Powers is confusing (on purpose) immigrants with illegal immigrants.

She needs a good spanking.


21 posted on 06/21/2013 11:19:42 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: muawiyah

Here she is talking about Sen. Sessions. She seems Sessionsphobic.

“Who there is nothing you can do to get him to agree ...”

OK, my talking bulldog, but he thinks Sessions rocks.
Good job, Alabama! Sorry Arizona .....


22 posted on 06/21/2013 11:20:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Durbin

Arguing about a border fence is pointless.. it’s never, ever going to happen. If this current legislation becomes law, at the first available opportunity, the dems will hold up funding for all these wonderful new promised security enhancements in exchange for “revenue enhancements.”

It didn’t happen in 1986, nor in 2002, or in 2006.. and it won’t happen now.


23 posted on 06/21/2013 11:27:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Durbin

For Kirsten, the border and immigration laws are a nuisance. She is a bona fide Democrat-Socialist. To be honest, the border would be less of an issue if we shut off the welfare-state magnet and other rewards that attract the hoards of Mexican invaders.


24 posted on 06/21/2013 11:28:40 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Durbin
Border Fence Sets Up Impossible Barrier To Entry For Immigrants.

Isn't that the point of a fence. There should be happy that it's not me in charge of securing our border. Along with a 25' fence, I would also include things that goes boom too!
25 posted on 06/21/2013 11:29:47 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian *born again believer in Jesus Christ* Black Man!)
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To: Durbin

Kristen back to being a LIB. It must be election time soon.

As for not wanting to live in a country with a fence around it, don’t let the gate hit your overly ample rear on the way out.


26 posted on 06/21/2013 11:31:00 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Durbin

The Texas-to-Mexico portion of the border could be fixed by stocking the Rio Grande with piranhas.


27 posted on 06/21/2013 11:31:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: muawiyah; Durbin

“Your dog is a poor innocent critter. Why not name him Richard Nixon ~”

Because if the dog is named for Dick Durbin you don’t have to feel bad when you kick him.

:-P


28 posted on 06/21/2013 11:31:12 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: NTHockey
Kristen back to being a LIB. It must be election time soon

Amazing how one call from Chicago can recoil wayward libs back to the plantation. Juan Williams seemed to be straying toward the political right for a little while, only be redirected back "home."

29 posted on 06/21/2013 11:32:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Durbin; All

Scary is that we have a lot of Amnesty Liberal GOP who believe the same way....and they are not even hottie like Kristen Powers


30 posted on 06/21/2013 11:35:41 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: Will88
What most never say is that, NO, we can never allow all what want to come to the US to come. And some (Hannity) who constantly say "just go home and come back the right way" imply, again, that anyone who wants to come should be able to come if the just do it "the right way".

There's probably a billion or two unskilled illiterates in the Third World who would love to come to the US and go on welfare -- which would have the net effect of collapsing the welfare system.

31 posted on 06/21/2013 11:39:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: tumblindice
“I always wondered what my cat would say if he could talk.”

Feed me

32 posted on 06/21/2013 11:46:41 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Durbin
This is the democrats’ plan

1. Pass Amnesty so create 60 new million democrat voters and so a democrat dictatorship
( democrat voters = the amnestied and their extended family back in the 3rd world that will be allowed to come to the USA.)

2. Once the democrat dictatorship is in place democrats and democrat Obama can pass anything at will with no debate , no waiting.

3. there are 7 BILLION people on the planet Earth.the democrat will the completely throw open the border of the USA inviting a flood of 3rd world peoples, hundreds of millions of Muslims, Africans, Latin Americans, Asians you name it , 2 billion immigrants to the USA , why not the democrats love to bring in poor people and non whites in.

33 posted on 06/21/2013 11:57:45 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Durbin
This is the democrats’ plan

1. Pass Amnesty to create 60 new million democrat voters and so a democrat dictatorship
( democrat voters = the amnestied and their extended family back in the 3rd world that will be allowed to come to the USA.)

2. Once the democrat dictatorship is in place democrats and democrat Obama can pass anything at will with no debate , no waiting.

3. there are 7 BILLION people on the planet Earth.the democrats will the completely throw open the border of the USA inviting a flood of 3rd world peoples, hundreds of millions of Muslims, Africans, Latin Americans, Asians you name it , 2 billion immigrants to the USA , why not the democrats love to bring in poor people and non whites in.

34 posted on 06/21/2013 11:58:56 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Durbin

“I also don’t really want to live in a country that has a fence around it, personally.”

It seems that people who emote, rather than think, can’t distinguish between fencing invaders out, and fencing citizens in. Powers didn’t specifically reference the Berlin Wall; but, many of her ilk have tried to make that exact comparison.

The ability to control who enters your country is the essence of sovereignty. Every country does this, in one way or another. OTOH, keeping citizens from leaving (as the Berlin Wall did), is a violation of international human rights laws.


35 posted on 06/21/2013 12:11:13 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Conspiracy Guy

She’s too stupid to be an idiot.


36 posted on 06/21/2013 12:23:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep.


37 posted on 06/21/2013 12:24:58 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: jmacusa

True. I offer my sincerest apologies to all the idiots of the world.


38 posted on 06/21/2013 12:26:16 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Durbin
Kirsten, Kirsten!!

All the spying on phone calls and emails and text don't mean crap if the terrorist can waltz across our southern border with the drug dealers, murderers and rapist!

Conservatives support all LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, hands down!

We DO NOT Support unknown persons illegally coming into the United States that want to cause mayhem.

Come on! ...you're smarter than that.

39 posted on 06/21/2013 12:28:34 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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They say that border security is unachievable...

but we’ve yet to see at least a modicum of effort...

36 miles of a legally REQUIRED 700 mile border fence is NOT an effort.


40 posted on 06/21/2013 12:28:34 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Durbin

I know there are many but here are three things one can count as fact regarding this government: the US Mexico border will never be officially secured as to stop illegal immigrantation, law only applies to and will be enforced on the common blue collar middle class citizens who believe the Constitution is America’s rule book, the IRS and the current tax system is not going anywhere.


41 posted on 06/21/2013 12:48:57 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Durbin

What is this barrier preventing me from getting from my office to the hallway?? I guess I’ll have to use the door!


42 posted on 06/21/2013 12:53:27 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

“What is this barrier preventing me from getting from my office to the hallway?? I guess I’ll have to use the door!”

Hahaha. Best analogy yet. Thank you.


43 posted on 06/21/2013 12:55:40 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin

Even the Berlin Wall with mine fields, watch towers, dog patrols, machine gun death strips and guards with shoot to kill orders didn’t deter people from successfully getting across the border. A fenced border will slow the current waves of illegals, but not stop the flow.


44 posted on 06/21/2013 12:59:22 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Durbin

The fence is the POISON PILL. The Dems are UNABLE to take it psychologically, just as she stated.

It is our ONE WAY to kill the bill. The Dems will accept ANYTHING ELSE related to border enforcement, because they know the benefit of the demographic shift once they get these people (legally) voting.


45 posted on 06/21/2013 1:01:41 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Durbin
Kirsten seems to have seen th light on some of the issues--and just when I think that, she comes up with another absurd talking point like this, and about it is what Pubbies do not want.

What I want is legal immigrants only, so they can be regulated and have some assimilation instead of turning some places into enclaves of Little Mexico.; instead of coughing up billions more in welfare and even SS; instead of having every answering service say press 2 for Spanish, etc. etc.

Like most Dem progressives (should be regressives), Kirsten know nothing of history and has been stuffed with liberal illogic and party line lies. No other country in the world has open borders.

She should travel through Europe by auto and try crossing a border without stopping to have her passport stamped. Or she should go to Mexicio with no visa, no money no job and find herself in jai.

vaudine

46 posted on 06/21/2013 1:04:06 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: ForAmerica
How long would it take to secure the border if V Corp was brought home and given the mission:

"Secure the International Border from coordinate 25.958045,-97.188574 to coordinate 32.49123,-117.051856."

Most of the delay would be in transporting them and their equipment. Kind of a reverse "Exercise Reforger"

47 posted on 06/21/2013 2:06:42 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Durbin

I think, in the same statement, she said she did not want to live in a country with a fence. She, probably, lives in a gated community or apartment with a door man, either way, she should not let the gate hit her in the ass as she leaves.


48 posted on 06/21/2013 2:33:01 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: ASA Vet
For all you Military geeks (aka Intel analyst types) here are the UTM coordinates.

14R 685682.47 2872182.06
11S 488262.03 3599646.04

49 posted on 06/21/2013 2:38:43 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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