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Marco Rubio's Big Problem: Explaining His Immigration Shift
NPR ^ | 21 June 2013 | Frank James

Posted on 06/21/2013 5:28:44 PM PDT by Theoria

Sen. Marco Rubio has a problem. He has transformed from conservative hero to suspect in the eyes of many on the political right because he now supports "a path to citizenship" for people unlawfully in the U.S. after forcefully opposing it in 2010 when he was running for U.S. Senate.

The senator from Florida, who's considered to be a potential Republican presidential candidate, has tried to gloss over the shift. Unfortunately, he's getting called on it. By Factcheck.org. And by many conservatives, like those who booed his name when it was mentioned at a Tea Party rally this week on Capitol Hill. Or Ann Coulter, who said Friday the Senate shouldn't take up immigration until it becomes a Rubio-free body. Former Republican Rep. Allen West is even saying he might give Rubio a primary challenge over his immigration shift.

If Rubio does decide to make the run for president, he will certainly be attacked not only as a flip-flopper but for supporting a policy that's anathema to many conservatives. So, what's a senator to do?

Rubio has a few options, though they all have risks. Here are some possible approaches:

The people made me do it: Rubio could always say he decided to change his position to more accurately reflect the desires of his Florida constituency.

A Quinnipiac University poll released this week indicated that 58 percent of those surveyed agreed with the "path to citizenship" approach while 12 percent said people in the U.S. unlawfully should be allowed to stay, but not given citizenship. Only 24 percent were of the deport or self-deport persuasion.

Even among Florida Republicans, nearly half, 47 percent, supported a citizenship path with 15 percent being willing to let those here unlawfully stay but without allowing them to become citizens.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; allenwest; amnesty; florida; illegal; immigration; rubio
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1 posted on 06/21/2013 5:28:44 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria
The NSA made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
2 posted on 06/21/2013 5:30:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: Theoria

He has no “problem”. He’s set for life.


3 posted on 06/21/2013 5:31:08 PM PDT by DManA
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nah, he was always for amnesty. He is just a better snake oil salesman than others.


4 posted on 06/21/2013 5:31:41 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Rubio’s next campaign is DOA!! TRAITOR!!


5 posted on 06/21/2013 5:31:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Theoria

Suspect? Hardly. Convicted from his own mouth and his evil deeds. He is finished for good.


6 posted on 06/21/2013 5:32:22 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DManA
This is “life's lottery” 2013. Get elected Senator and you live like a king and you and your spawn don't have to work for the rest of your life.
7 posted on 06/21/2013 5:33:49 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Theoria

He’s a liar.

Says one thing in English the opposite in spanish. He’s a liar.


8 posted on 06/21/2013 5:35:41 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Theoria
The only chance for Rubio is to stand firmly on the border security first, otherwise opt out of the gang.
That is the last chance to save himself. If not he goes from Rubio to Rube. Sounds good on the stump but once Schumer and the boys get him behind closed doors he forgets all the principles he is supposed to represent.
9 posted on 06/21/2013 5:37:38 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser
No way. He's for arming the 'rebels' in Syria and every dam other hell hole. His open border mindset is the same as Jeb and Mccain.

Invite the world, invade the world.

10 posted on 06/21/2013 5:40:01 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

WHY the RUSH???

Just a few felony crimes that will be waived for ILLEGAL aliens under Immigration Bill S.744:

‘Falsely representing or knowingly using a Social Security Number obtained with false information’

‘Falsely claiming citizenship on Form I-9’

‘Knowingly altering a Social Security Card’

‘Document fraud to prove eligibility for employment’

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/immigration-bill-waives-felony-document-fraud.html

Comment at site may say it all: “Isn’t Barack Obama subject to charges for all of these offenses? Maybe that’s why the immigration bill is getting the ultra-fast track treatment; maybe evidence of his ineligibility is mounting toward levels which can no longer be ignored.”


11 posted on 06/21/2013 5:40:15 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ditto.


12 posted on 06/21/2013 5:44:31 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Ray76

Taqiyya, with a side of beans.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 5:46:02 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mortrey

Wow, I didn’t know it would waive those felonies. Always shake my head when I hear that illegal aliens aren’t criminals. Those who fill out I-9 forms sure as hell are.


14 posted on 06/21/2013 5:46:08 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Theoria
On second thought, you're right.
15 posted on 06/21/2013 5:46:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Rubio’s next campaign is DOA!!

Heck no! His next campaign, he'll have a D after his name, along with a built-in story of how he was a victim of Republican prejudice against Latinos. ("I didn't leave the GOP... sniff, sob.... they left me!")

16 posted on 06/21/2013 5:50:11 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Theoria

I’m actually glad he’s screwed up his plans to run for the presidency. I really didn’t want to deal with the “he’s not eligible” stuff that will be thrown at him by the media. (Yes, it will be the media.)


17 posted on 06/21/2013 5:51:23 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I doubt he is finished. Come a election day, you would be surprised at how many people vote for the lesser of two evils nonsense.


18 posted on 06/21/2013 5:52:52 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: oldbrowser

I think Rubio’s only chance is to say, “I was wrong. I got sidetracked by the attention and forgot what I believe. I’ve got my head on straight again. Don’t support any bill by the Gang of Seven. I’m not running for the presidency, period.


19 posted on 06/21/2013 5:55:27 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Theoria

I don’t need any explanation from Marco Rubio. He’s a liar and a traitor for what he has done to our country.


20 posted on 06/21/2013 5:59:27 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: DManA
This is “life's lottery” 2013. Get elected Senator and you live like a king and you and your spawn don't have to work for the rest of your life.

That about says it. If these guys can do this stuff to us, and not lose their job over it, we can only expect to be treated this way. I would like to see Rubio lose his job over this, but he probably won't. Cornyn, McConnell, Graham all three are pushing this crap down our throats, all 3 up for re-election, and I doubt a single one of them will even have a challenger in the primary. Rand Paul is supposed to be on our side, yet is trying to protect McConnell from a primary challenge. We are so screwed if we don't start firing some of these guys. Unfortunately they don't seem to have to worry too much about losing their jobs.

21 posted on 06/21/2013 5:59:59 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: Theoria
The senator from Florida, who's considered to be a potential Republican presidential candidate

Marco Rubio

born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Oria Garcia born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.

Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth (Does NOT meet the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Marco Rubio is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

22 posted on 06/21/2013 6:00:09 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Gator113

Marco Rubio will probably run as a Democrat the next election.


23 posted on 06/21/2013 6:00:27 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Theoria

Points to keep in mind:

>> There is no record of who is here illegally.

>> Illegals can apply for green card immediately from their
home country because there is no record of their crime. Green card (permanent residence visa) is automatic path to citizenship in 5 years.

So, the way I understand it, Rubio is proposing to allow the illegals to apply for green card from US instead of from their home country.


24 posted on 06/21/2013 6:01:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: Eva

Very likely.


25 posted on 06/21/2013 6:02:05 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Reddon

If I was able to come face to face with Rubio I would spit right in his face, and take the consequences.

There is no one in Congress I would not spit in their face.


26 posted on 06/21/2013 6:02:31 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Ray76

Nailed it brother.


27 posted on 06/21/2013 6:04:06 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: Theoria

I wonder if Dupio is smart enough to realize that in going all in for amnesty, he presented Schmuck Shumer with a two-fer: 1) as a “conservative” front to sell the amnesty disaster, and 2) a means to destroy Dupio as an up-and-coming contender for the Republican presidential nominee.

Anyway, better we find out about Dupio now than later.

If the amnesty bill crashes and burns, at least one good thing will have come out of it: Dupio (and others) have shown their true colors.


28 posted on 06/21/2013 6:07:36 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: workerbee

Yep. Watch for him to change parties and run as a Demwit in the next presidential election. He should be a shoe-in with all the wetbacks voting for him. And he won’t have to worry about eligibility as a Demwit.


29 posted on 06/21/2013 6:09:15 PM PDT by Old Yeller (You can't spell Stanley Ann without S-A-T-A-N)
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To: Theoria
Marco Rubio's Big Problem: Explaining His Immigration Shift

Nope. His big problem is the shift itself. No explanation needed.

30 posted on 06/21/2013 6:13:53 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Theoria

Did he get blackmailed like Justice Roberts?


31 posted on 06/21/2013 6:17:49 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Theoria
Marco Rubio's Big Problem: Explaining His Immigration Shift Treason!
32 posted on 06/21/2013 6:17:52 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Theoria

Rubio as a presidential candidate makes me puke.


33 posted on 06/21/2013 6:18:57 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Theoria

What goes around; comes around.

Rubio makes the perfect democratic senator now. Deep betrayal.


34 posted on 06/21/2013 6:19:11 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Theoria
"Nah, he was always for amnesty."

Unfortunately, if I had to bet, I'd bet on this. I think the guy just lied to win the election, and now that he's in DC, he's showing his true colors.
35 posted on 06/21/2013 6:24:04 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ASA Vet
Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

Correct! And an additional piece of interesting information..........this is the same for "Bobby Jindal" whose parents were also not U.S. Citizens at the time of Bobby's 1971 Baton Rouge birth....... in this country.

The Constitution says Bobby can be a Representative in the U.S. House, a Senator in the U.S. Senate.....even a Justice on the Supreme Court.....but he can never be the "Commander in Chief" because he is only a "Born Citizen" and fails to qualify as a "Natural Born Citizen".

I'm surprised we still see a debate on this elementary Constitutional provision. It's probably because everyone feels a precedent has now been set because of the current occupant of the Oval Office. He's there because there were no principled folks willing to be called a "Racist" .......insisting that the Constitution be adhered to when he ran.

Pity...........

As an aside.........Bobby can also be a State's Governor if he desires.

I cannot understand why we (as a nation) find it so difficult to uncover and promote "Natural Born Citizens" as candidates for the office of "POTUS".

36 posted on 06/21/2013 6:30:47 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Theoria
Hey, that Tea Party stuff was fun during the election, but I'm a beltway boy now.

37 posted on 06/21/2013 6:37:51 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and the other over my mouth.)
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To: Baynative

Perfect.


38 posted on 06/21/2013 6:39:19 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Theoria

change parties and run as a turncoat “demo” he is


39 posted on 06/21/2013 6:39:42 PM PDT by ldish (The Impeachment process should be getting interesting...but trust me it won't!)
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To: Diego1618
Sadly we have low information freepers who don't care about the Constitution.


Think of what Rubio and Jindal could have accomplished if they together publicly had stated,

"We'd like to put these VP nomination rumors to rest once and for all. While serving as VP would be a great honor,
We'd not be able to accept the office as we are not a Natural Born Citizens.
Our parents became US Citizens after our births so by the eligibility requirements specified in Article. II. Section. 1. We're not eligible.

The fact that the CommieRAT Party lied about their usurper Obama's status doesn't change the Constitutional Natural Born Citizen requirement."

40 posted on 06/21/2013 6:43:08 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Theoria

Marco Rubio’s problem is that he’s Marco Rubio.


41 posted on 06/21/2013 6:44:01 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Diego1618

On which page in the US Constitution it says “a natural born citizen is one whose parents are US citizens”?

I had to memorize the entire US constitution and all amendments for my citizenship test back in 1970.


42 posted on 06/21/2013 6:45:25 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: Theoria
Marco Rubio's Big Problem: Explaining His Immigration Shift

Marco Rubio's Big Problem: He's a two trick pony, clean cut & Cuban!

43 posted on 06/21/2013 6:47:01 PM PDT by varon (Down with tyranny)
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To: Theoria
MARCO MARCO MARCO...PUH LEEZE google ANN COULTER/IMMIGRATION AND GO OVER EVERY damn HIT...school yourself in common sense...then come back and let's talk...Let's talk about your conversion to a correct common sense answer to this crucial issue to THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.


44 posted on 06/21/2013 6:47:58 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: Jim Robinson

Did you see the poll data? 47% of Florida Republicans support a path to citizenship. He will be a senator as long as he wants....but it will be without my vote.


45 posted on 06/21/2013 6:48:27 PM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: Theoria
The NSA made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Somebody did! He damn near broke his own neck when he made that sudden left turn.

46 posted on 06/21/2013 6:49:04 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Theoria

He wants to catch up with Christie on the “fool them with the conservative speak” and then go full bore RINO once you have climbed under the blanket of socialism.


47 posted on 06/21/2013 6:58:48 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: entropy12
On which page in the US Constitution it says “a natural born citizen is one whose parents are US citizens”?

It doesn't say that a "Natural Born Citizen" is one whose parents are U.S. Citizens at the time of his birth. But...it says this....peculiar only to the presidency:

U.S. Constitution [Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 4]

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

When the framers wrote the Constitution this "Natural Born" provision was commonly known the same way we, today.....know that the "World Series" pertains to baseball....and the "Super Bowl" pertains to football. One does not have to say.....the "Super Bowl Football Game" because everyone knows that the "Super Bowl"......IS Football! By including "Football Game"....you're just being redundant!

"The Law of Nations", written mid 18th century (1758) was the initial description of the term, "Natural Born". It was penned by "Emmerich de Vattel" and read by statesmen throughout Europe and the Colonies and quoted frequently by the framers. Here is the pertinent section, #212:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

This term, "Natural Born Citizen" was commonly accepted throughout the world as what the above paragraph indicates the definition to be. It has only been recently (last 50 years or so) that this definition has come into question. This is due to the fact that the U.S. Constitution is no longer taught in our public schools.

48 posted on 06/21/2013 7:19:24 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: ASA Vet

Sorry........I meant to ping you to post #48.


49 posted on 06/21/2013 7:25:25 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Theoria

Every damned one of them succumbs to the DC lobotomy given time. Plus a few hefty checks from the OBL in this case.


50 posted on 06/21/2013 7:28:51 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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