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IRS Agents ‘Accidentally’ Discharged Guns 11 Times, Possible Injuries
CNSNews.com ^ | June 19, 2013 | Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 06/21/2013 8:48:05 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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IRS Agents ‘Accidentally’ Discharged Guns 11 Times, Possible Injuries

(CNSNews.com) – Special agents at the IRS accidentally shot their firearms 11 times between 2009 and 2011, and at least three of the cases “may have resulted in property damage or personal injury.”

Agents actually fired their guns accidently more often than they intentionally fired them in the field, according to an audit by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).

The report also found that the agency, which is now training with AR-15s, does not always provide remedial training to agents who fired their weapons due to “negligence.”

The September 2012 audit examined whether IRS special agents, who execute search warrants for those suspected of violating U.S. tax laws, are being properly trained and reporting incidents when weapons are fired.

“When performing their duties, special agents carry firearms and are authorized to use deadly force to protect themselves and the public,” the report explains.

“Special training agents not properly trained in the use of firearms could endanger the public, as well as their fellow special agents, and expose the IRS to possible litigation over injuries or damages,” it warns.

According to the audit, “there were a total of eight firearm discharges classified as intentional use of force incidents and 11 discharges classified as accidental during FYs 2009 through 2011.” In other words, agents were more likely to accidentally fire their weapon than to fire it intentionally.

Accidental discharges are defined in the report as “instances where a special agent did not intend to discharge the firearm but, either through a voluntary or involuntary action, the firearm did discharge.”

Accidents are supposed to be reported to the National Criminal Investigation Training Academy (NCITA), which manages the firearms training program for the IRS Criminal Investigation unit. However, four of the 11 incidents were not properly reported.

“In three of the four accidental discharges that were not reported, the accidental discharges may have resulted in property damage or personal injury,” the report says.

The details on these incidents, however, are redacted from the report.

A TIGTA spokesperson told CNSnews.com that the audit could not disclose the information due to privacy laws.

“It would have identified an individual by name and that’s not allowed under the privacy act,” they said.

Furthermore, the audit details that agents who accidentally fire their guns do not receive special follow- up training.

“We found that the four visited field offices did not always provide remedial training when an accidental discharge occurred due to special agent negligence,” the report said.

The review was performed at field offices in Los Angeles, Chicago, New York and Washington, D.C. between August 2011 and April 2012.

Special agents for the IRS are required to have handgun training four times a year, shoot a minimum of 75 percent on a qualifying test, participate in firearms “building entry” exercises, and attend briefings on safety and how to shoot a gun from a moving vehicle. In addition, they are mandated to receive shotgun training twice a year.

Agents are also now training with AR-15s, according to Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.), who toured a federal law enforcement facility last month.

“I think Americans raise eyebrows when you tell them that IRS agents are training with a type of weapon that has stand-off capability,” Duncan told Politico. “It’s not like they’re carrying a sidearm and they knock on someone’s door and say, ‘You’re evading your taxes.’”

The TIGTA audit found that the firearms training and requirements for the Criminal Investigation division “generally met or exceeded those of other Federal law enforcement agencies.”

“However, we found that some special agents did not meet all of the firearms training or qualification requirements,” it said.

TIGTA gave several recommendations to the IRS, including that the agency enforce its rules that agents must surrender their firearm if they fail training, or face other consequences.

A spokesman for TIGTA said there are no plans for a follow-up report at this time.

“Typically, we like to give the IRS some time to respond to the recommendations and take action and we usually try to circle back in the future,” they said. “But I don’t think we’ve enacted any specific plans at this point.”


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1 posted on 06/21/2013 8:48:05 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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2 posted on 06/21/2013 8:48:34 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

IRS should be hiring auditors, not gunslingers...?


3 posted on 06/21/2013 8:51:04 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: DogByte6RER

The only time rounds escaped our range was when feds were shooting...


4 posted on 06/21/2013 8:53:01 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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IRS, EPA, HHS, ABC, and XYZ should not be armed in this manner. The sheriff should be used for anything requiring arrest.


5 posted on 06/21/2013 8:53:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: DogByte6RER

That’s OK. They can’t be sued.


6 posted on 06/21/2013 8:57:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: DogByte6RER

Enforcement agencies are horrible with this sort of thing. Our county agengy has had a few incidences.

I know of no one in the Marine Corps who had an accidental discharge who did not suffer the loss of pay, pay grade and possible brig time. And as it should be.

If other agencies took this as the standard, there would be very few incidences. Of course, the caliber of most people who are recruited into policing agencies now are hardly what I would call the cream of the crop.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 8:57:36 PM PDT by rey
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To: Gene Eric
“IRS, EPA, HHS, ABC, and XYZ should not be armed in this manner. The sheriff should be used for anything requiring arrest.”

I agree. Obama is arming everyone in the government.

8 posted on 06/21/2013 9:02:42 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: DogByte6RER

Honestly, just 11 incidents in 3 years, with mostly only mild property damage as a result, is probably among the best records for government bodies with tens of thousands of armed personnel in this century.


9 posted on 06/21/2013 9:07:51 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: rey

I knew of one Skipper.

Sharp guy, always tactical, instructed more than his fair share of grunts throughout the Corps, dedicated grunt,....cleaning his Colt Commander at the office, letting the slide go home and POP... in an office of about 15 other senior field grades. He had to report directly to the bird Colonel and was pretty sheepish for about a month after that.


10 posted on 06/21/2013 9:08:44 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Teacher317

There are probably 11 accidental Discharges a day by 2nd Lieutenants.


11 posted on 06/21/2013 9:13:50 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: DogByte6RER; a fool in paradise

Wed keep asking the silly question if the US Armed Forces will ever open fire on Americans? Who needs USAF when we have fully trained and armed forces attached to just about every agency of the Fed?!


12 posted on 06/21/2013 9:17:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Try This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU


13 posted on 06/21/2013 9:25:31 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: DogByte6RER

How convenient, now the IRS can handle both death and taxes. Real one stop shopping.


14 posted on 06/21/2013 9:27:03 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Cvengr
Isn't it difficult to clean the barrel without noticing a round in the chamber?

Or are they just waxing the rocket on the outside?

15 posted on 06/21/2013 9:48:00 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: faithhopecharity

To paraphrase a line from “Dirty Harry”, I think it’s a disgrace that an accountant should even KNOW how to use such weapons! /s;)


16 posted on 06/21/2013 9:51:17 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Revolting cat!

Great !

Now we have accountants with guns
What could go wrong .. ?
Barney Fife .. with one bullet !


17 posted on 06/21/2013 9:54:56 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: DogByte6RER

Not to worry. They have plenty more bullets.


18 posted on 06/21/2013 9:59:13 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: DogByte6RER

This is very taxing.


19 posted on 06/22/2013 12:23:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Paladin2

The skipper indubitably asked the same question of himself a 1000 times over.

That’s why the best policy is to always consider it loaded prior to touching it, then always making a complete safe weapon before cleaning.


20 posted on 06/22/2013 12:54:17 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: BBell
There are probably 11 accidental Discharges a day by 2nd Lieutenants.

Uhh...I think we're talking firearms here...not ..uhh...well...(family show and all that)...hee hee hee

21 posted on 06/22/2013 2:18:03 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Gene Eric

“IRS, EPA, HHS, ABC, and XYZ should not be armed in this manner. The sheriff should be used for anything requiring arrest.”

There are actually several things going on here. First, there’s mission creep. Each agency has increased what it does so it can get bigger. Getting bigger is the primary goal of any bureaucratic enterprise. The bigger it gets the more the people running it can justify their pay and benefits. Secondly, socialists just love men (oh, pardon) persons in uniform. They represent power. If you’re a bureaucrat on the move then you really need that extra fashion accessory, the small army...if you can get tanks then you’ve one-upped the other bureaucrats. Lastly, it’s about intimidation. Why on Earth did the government go in with a SWAT raid on Elian Gonzales, Waco, or Ruby Ridge? Clearly they were unnecessary. Those were object lessons to the public.


22 posted on 06/22/2013 3:03:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: faithhopecharity

When performing their duties, special agents carry firearms and are authorized to use deadly force to protect themselves and the public
So they can protect them selves but we cannot.


23 posted on 06/22/2013 3:18:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: ronnie raygun
"So they can protect them selves but we cannot. "

Komrade, YOU are the danger.

(You probably want fewer and lower taxes, less spending, Border Control, Personal Liberty and such)

24 posted on 06/22/2013 5:26:26 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DogByte6RER


25 posted on 06/22/2013 5:28:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: DogByte6RER

” the agency... does not always provide remedial training to agents who fired their weapons due to “negligence.””

But, the agency will give them a bonus.


26 posted on 06/22/2013 5:50:26 AM PDT by moovova
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To: vette6387

Well at least that ape wasn’t holding the gun sideways while firing it ala in the “hood.”


27 posted on 06/22/2013 5:51:36 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (What does it mean to be declared "guilty" in a nation without the rule of law?)
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To: faithhopecharity
IRS should be hiring auditors, not gunslingers...?

No...they should be hiring lawyers to keep them out of prison...

28 posted on 06/22/2013 6:14:07 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Gene Eric
100%
29 posted on 06/22/2013 7:06:11 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yup, statists are control freaks.


30 posted on 06/22/2013 7:47:41 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Popman; faithhopecharity
IRS should be hiring auditors, not gunslingers...?

No...they should be hiring lawyers to keep them out of prison...

They might want to think about hiring bodyguards for the coming onslaught.

31 posted on 06/22/2013 5:05:12 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: DogByte6RER

They should not even have guns. If they face a problem with someone, they should call in local authorities or the FBI.


32 posted on 06/22/2013 5:52:15 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: DogByte6RER

Good poster.


33 posted on 06/22/2013 6:11:04 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Bump.


34 posted on 06/22/2013 8:10:02 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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