Posted on 06/22/2013 4:19:44 AM PDT by Zakeet
America’s Catholic bishops and the Southern Baptist Convention joined forces on Friday, calling on Congress to pass bills that would exempt companies and nonprofits from the contraception insurance coverage mandate in President Obama’s health care law.
The Rev. William E. Lori, archbishop of Baltimore, and SBC President Russell D. Moore say companion bills in the House and Senate would “address threats to religious freedom and rights of conscience that have become particularly grave in the field of health care.”
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The bill exempts faith-based nonprofits and religiously devout business owners from a provision in the Affordable Care Act that requires them to offer contraception in their health insurance benefits for their employees.
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Opponents of the mandate particularly object to covering emergency contraceptives taken after sex, such as Plan B or ella, because they equate the drugs with abortion.
Supporters of the mandate say employers cannot impose their beliefs on their employees, and that health benefits are not much different than salaries that could be used to purchase birth control, anyway.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Mostly true, but needs a little more info ... they are not, for the most part, members of the Southern Baptist Convention. They belong to several other flavors of the Baptist denomination. The largest predominately black denomninations in descending order are ...
Church of God in Christ
National Baptist - U.S.A.
National Baptist – America
African-Methodist-Episcopal
National Missionary Baptist
AME Zion Church
The Catholic denomination votes majority democrat/Clinton/Gore/Obama, the Southern baptist denomination is about an 80% republican voting denomination.
I don't say that as a brag. Very much the contrary. The larger point is that votes are predicted with far more accuracy by Zip Code than by denomination.
That isn't a brag, either. But it tells you something. I'm open to any reasonable inference from the evidence.
This is exactly what Archbishop Lori was transferred to Baltimore to do - start trouble for Democrats over this issue. Nice to see he’s making alliances and gearing up for the fight.
I wouldn't vote about the Catholic vote either, Nancy Pelosi and Obama might, but I wouldn't.
That "whole" includes the Catholic church denomination which votes majority democrat while Evangelical Christians don't come anywhere near voting like the "whole", we can only wish that Catholics voted like the anti-democrat voting denominations, such as the Southern Baptists rather than on the side of the whole that they do vote with.
The word intended was “brag”, no conservative can think of bragging about the Catholic vote.
It's funny how some people don't actually belive anything but their politics just like the fascist democrats do.
Some on here just do not like to admit that the majority of WHITE CATHOLICS vote conservative republican. And why not, the Catholic Church is the only Christian faith that has an unbending no-abortion of any kind stance, no women clergy, no homo “marriage”, etc. The rest of the Christian faiths blow like the wind on social issues and some believe it’s OK to abort babies, to make women pastors, and let Tom and Bill get “married”. When Roe v. Wade come along in 1973 the Catholic Church stood alone in protecting the unborn. Most protestant faiths agreed with the decision. Thank God most have changed their position in the last 40 years. The pro-life movement was started by Catholics.
If you look at the final 2012 numbers (Link), the country would be better off if everybody voted like the white Catholics did (I won't talk about Hispanic.) We'd all be even better off if everybody voted like the white evangelicals did. (I won't talk about black.) And by an even bigger margin, we'd all be vastly better off if everybody voted like the Mormons did.
And the conclusion is?
The conclusion is that while Catholics vote democrat, even supposedly conservative Catholics defend that voting and will do or say most anything from the realization of that information reaching conservative political activist, even in the midst of massive Catholic immigration.
Quite a complicated effort to conceal the fact that Catholics support the democrat party and their pro-abortion, gay agenda politics and that we are importing more of them by the millions.
Not sure what you are trying to say there, but I do question a denomination almost always voting for the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, "fascist democrats", and while we know that we are importing millions more and debating allowing them in, conservative members of that denomination trying to squelch that political knowledge getting out.
Please give me the username of a conservative Catholic who defends voting for Democrats and I will go after them radiating severe displeasure, hammer and tongs. And you know I will. Thank you.
"... and will do or say most anything from the realization of that information reaching conservative political activist, even in the midst of massive Catholic immigration."
I am unsure of the meaning of this. I tried diagramming it
Catholics | will do or say | anything
and didn't know what to do with "from the realization of that information.... " etc. Evidently there's a conservative political activist out there who isn't being reached?
It could be I'm dense. There is always that possibility,. Could you re-word it?
I don't know that at all and haven't noticed it, but way to pat yourself on the back by claiming that I do.
Obamacare could solve that problem by making contraceptives over-the-counter drugs.
Right. Someone who routinely judges various religious groups exclusively by how they vote exactly the same way the fascist democrats do has is working very hard to distort reality and/or draw attention away from something.
When around eighty percent of the population are non-Catholic focusing on the Catholic vote as the primary measure of what's wrong with either Catholics or elections is blatant misdirection since it is now and always has been the non-Catholic majority who determine the direction of the country. They do it every time they elect another jerk for their district because he, "brings home the bacon", but then they whine about judges and Presidential elections.
Nearly constant control of both houses of Congress by democrat fascists for the past eighty years is what has put this country in the ditch and that's the fact. Focusing on the Catholic vote when it's actually fairly concentrated as far as State elections go is either a sign the the person who so focuses is amazingly ignorant or they're deliberately trying to keep other people from honestly analyzing the total vote and where the problems are.
Still not sure?
No, you’re wrong again, as usual. Liberal Catholics that do not attend regular mass support democrats. Conservatives support the conservative candidate, usually the republican candidate. The same is the case in all faiths. Why do you single out Catholics that support democrats and never say a word about the millions and millions of evangelicals that support the baby killing Obama? And the media loves to call someone a Catholic that never attends mass and they throw them in with devout Catholics, which is utter BS. But it plays right into the liberal agenda and it plays right into the anti-Catholics like yourself.
You seem to be struggling a bit here.
I hain't no Cafferlic but I'm an old fart and I've seen the Life movement from the beginning. You should be able to slap a booger-eatin' goober clean back to Imaginary Texas.
Considering the amount of space wasted here on the debate, I wonder if the mods would allow me to post on what I saw of the Life movement, where we are now and what we are doing about it. It's likely to be a long post but maybe I could stick it back in some corner of the replies of some other thread.
I have a lot on my plate right now and it may take time to pull it all together but it might be worthwhile for some. We see an opportunity to end abortion and we are going to press it but you have to understand the history.
I will be grateful for the time and effort you put into your remarks. I want to hear what you have to say, Martial Monk.
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